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October 3, 2005 7:43:55 PM

Did you find Eden?
October 3, 2005 7:46:43 PM

Not the ole Strobe light effect. :smile:
October 3, 2005 10:19:13 PM

Some of the BIG DOG overclockers keep saying that CF will end up working on MOBOs like the ASUS P5WD2. What are the minium requiremnts of the second PCIexpress slot?

ASUS P5WD2 Premium
Intel 3.73 EE @ 5.6Ghz
XMS2 DDR2 @ 1180Mhz

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October 4, 2005 12:13:25 AM

That dirty rotten Wingding
a b U Graphics card
October 4, 2005 5:32:35 AM

Like anyone will care about the X800/850 series of CF cards after Wednesday.

Much ado about nothing.

Funny that they should mention SLi, nVidia tried to hide SLi because despite the fact that they had the cards ready there were no motherboards for months. Of course most people don't remember that part of the equation, so saying that they had the cards when the launched SLi is not really as big a deal as they make it out to be. The next question for VooDoo should be, if it was so available then why did it take you so long to release a rig using SLi? Alienware was the first to market with a Pseudo setup similar to their ALX Intel platform, and not the official AMD+SLi mobos.

Oh well, guess there needs to be something to talk about in the calm before the storm.


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October 4, 2005 4:44:21 PM

Are the prices going down on the X800Pros and others?
October 5, 2005 12:00:25 AM

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Like anyone will care about the X800/850 series of CF cards after Wednesday.

Much ado about nothing.

It has nothing to do with the x800 series, just the fact that ATI yet again paper launched (for the second time) this piece of hardware that got hardware sites excited up, just to find that perhaps it was only a PR move, and excitement was all that would come from it.

Which leaves me to believe that ATI intended to launch Crossfire with the r520, but wanted to generate some
excitement for the actual release, in which they did.

But now HardOCP is making sure that the "excitement" turns to negativity, which may be justified in your own opinion or not.
a b U Graphics card
October 5, 2005 3:42:08 AM

They can be negative, that's not surprising nor uncharacteristic. I said it was for PR from the start, it doesn't even look like a well planned, let alone executed launch if it was to move real product (heck how much pr/promo/info was on ATi's own site, where space is FREE?!?)

I agree the criticism is generally warranted, but they should at least make the effort to appear that they aren't ignoring history completely if they're going to take such a position. Otherwise they sound like petulant children, especially when comparing it to another product and forgeting to mention the drawbacks of that equally 'paper' launch.

If the equation/product requires more than one part from the company to work, then all those parts must be available before it's anything more than a paper launch.

OK as a refresher let's take a look at [H]'s SLi timeline;

<A HREF="http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NjMz" target="_new">Introduction of SLi in JUNE of 2004</A> after people like myself alreadydiscovered what the connector was for (although we were told it's an engineering sensor module connector).

<A HREF="http://" target="_new">Months later (Oct '04) they announce the nF4U+SLi <b>PREVIEW</b></A> launching the MoBo long after the graph1cs c@rd feature.

<A HREF="http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=Njk2" target="_new">Weeks later [H] comes out with their SLi upgrade guide in Nov 2004</A>, so a guide before all the gear is available to the general public.

<A HREF="http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NzAz" target="_new">And finally those motherboards make it to market in December(Asia)/January(N.Am/Euro) of 04/05</A> very long after the terrible Prescott launch, finally bringing good PCIe solution to the market. Sli can start being called an actual product at this point IMO.

If you see it another way that's fine, but a company as tech aware as VooDoo should know better, and [H] need only look at their own archives to re-familiarize themselves with how much of a paper launch SLi was despite supposedly 3 years of planning. Heck ALX and SLi were backroom / special convention products for quite some time after launch, including the <A HREF="http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/modules.php?nam..." target="_new">first big public sighting/sitting</A> which just so happened onlyh a few Kilometers from here in Canada ['Dead'-monton].

In relationship to that I'd once again say, "So what's so different about all this?" Whether it's the launch of the techn0logy or the products, availability arrived long afterwards.

Once again this simply looks like something to kill the dead-air before the storm of launches from both ATi and nV tomorrow. Although I think one may be more press covered, and will show the difference between a launch of a product that the company is trying to sell larges ma$$ive quantities of, and a product that's more of a techn0l0gy launch.

You decide.


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October 5, 2005 8:07:01 AM

Hrm... just visited ati.com and all it says on the countdown timer window (obviously the countdown is now completed (1hr ago approx): Enter a World of Visual Velocity. Ultra-high imagage quality. What's next? 10/05/05.

Nothing to click on or anything.. they could atleast showed us something.... sigh.
a b U Graphics card
October 5, 2005 1:19:27 PM

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Nothing to click on or anything..

Sounds like you don't have Macromedia installed.

I was able to click on the X1K family and get a huge presentation (which I don't need; 'just the facts man/mam') for each of the X1800, X1600, X1300 family.

They even have Crossfire in there with the build your own system stuff, etc.

They also have Ruby again, and their AVIVO stuff, plus Games and Downloads.

For everything else you must navigate to their PressRelease room;
<A HREF="http://apps.ati.com/ir/pressreleaselist.asp" target="_new">http://apps.ati.com/ir/pressreleaselist.asp&lt;/A>



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October 5, 2005 1:26:12 PM

Sound Like I was there hours before you were, because now the site has updated banners..... (you commented on me not reading, so.. touché.. :) )..

-Hasse
a b U Graphics card
October 5, 2005 1:30:24 PM

The funny thing is that the countdown Clock was far from 0 for me last night just before you posted.

Based on what I had set in my Kyo they still had 1hr and 30 mins left 'til PR blast-off.

I wonder if the count-down time was running off of the M$ clock, which would explain different launch time from what we expected.


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October 5, 2005 1:35:46 PM

He he he .. that would explain why there was no banner for me, but the lame text. Still to run of the MS clock would be so incredibly lame that I wouldn't expect a serious company like ati to do that.. anyway if they did it only annoyed me mildly :)  and that music on the info was getting on my nerves way more than the delay on the info for me. Just did a quick browse through the biggest webshops in Norway and as I thought, nothing, not even a hint. They had huge banners regarding the 7800gtx launch. So this as for now is a disappointment to me, I'ld really like to see some cards either whack the 7800gtx or atleast perform as good. Why? So the prices would drop, I really miss competition in the highend segment....

Please keep post some info if you find regarding availability or reviews..

-Hasse
a b U Graphics card
October 5, 2005 1:56:06 PM

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Still to run of the MS clock would be so incredibly lame that I wouldn't expect a serious company like ati to do that..

I agree, but really it's not the first time. Alot of companies do that (then you don't have to synch with host), and it's funny when the clock programs don't have an X > 0 feature, and you see negative time to Launch. :lol: 

Music... what music... :wink: At work I only have headphones in (and they are power assisted so no music unless I add it :cool: ), but I'll have to visit later to check exactly how hideous it is.

Sofar the X1800XL (edit: some people were mis-naming the XL the XT in early previews/reviews today including the InQ) doesn't appear to beat the GTX soundly or even 'beat' it, and often ties or loses at lower resolutions. But suddosedly these are all still older R520s where they picked the ones that could run at XT speeds and bin'ed the rest to XL, according to the InQ there will be a revision 2, just like the FX5600Ultra. I don't like that idea, didn't like it then don't like it now (who knows what you'll get until you take it home and wrench off the HSF assembly?) hopefully they'lll have the easily discernable parts like the InQ mentions;

<A HREF="http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=26710" target="_new">http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=26710&lt;/A>

EDIT: Made reference to the XT here it appears many people are reviewing XLs as XTs a bit of confusion from some of the smaller parts (thanks to [H] for the best review sofar. looks like a day of reading during my breaks [NO NHL 2K6 for ME! :frown: )


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<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by TheGreatGrapeApe on 10/05/05 08:06 AM.</EM></FONT></P>
October 5, 2005 2:09:34 PM

<A HREF="http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=26720" target="_new">http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=26720&lt;/A> was a nice read, a little disappointing about the figures, but the oc potential might be a nice thing, still eager to see the cf speeds, but that's not to come for quite some time.. Besides, too bad the availability is closer to christmas.. that... sucks... Anyway, a nice card... Hot though is not so nice, the card being hotter than anything they've tested earlier.. icky.. 2 of those and I can toast bread between them.. and what about soundlevels? Jeese my watercooling rig will really heat up.... Sigh.. cofee effect, sorry.. 3 cups and I'm yapping.. Thanks ape..

-Hasse
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