Display Very Pixelated

joeP · Sep 28, 2005

Well.. i just built my new comp.. i have a abit fatil1ty mobo, 2gb of kingston ram, and a pny 6800gt graphics card. And i have dell's 20" widescreen monitor.
Well when i had my old comp hooked up to the monitor through a vga cbale.. everything looked PERFECT.. i never updated no driver.. it was a 3-4 yr old comp.
Now on my new comp.. i have the same videos.. and they look VERY pixelated. i am usin a dvi cable.
I tried updating my graph card. and i have the newest driver. I tried everything i could think of in settings.
Any help would be aprrciated.
Thank you
Joe

Crashman · Sep 28, 2005

Is it set to the native resolution for your display?

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joeP · Sep 28, 2005

i tried different settins.. but right now it is set at 1152x864.. if thats what you were refering to

Edited by joep on 09/28/05 01:26 AM.

Crashman · Sep 28, 2005

Flat panels have a resolution, based on the number of pixels wide by the number of pixels high the screen is. This is called their "native resolution". Any "non-native" setting has to be converted by the monitor to a native one, in order to fill the screen. And that conversion means the monitor has to choose which pixel to represent another pixel from the non-native resolution, so you end up with too many pixels in the middle. I'm sure someone can explain it better.

Your monitor, as far as I know, can display either the streteched image or a nonstretched image, in the second case by not filling the screen. For example, you should set your resolution to native (I believe that's 1680x1050 for your monitor), or, you could use 1600x1024 (a more common setting) and set your monitor not to stretch the image (leaving narrow black frame of unused space around the image).

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dhlucke · Sep 28, 2005

Yup....crash is right.

You might have to install the monitor driver that came on the cd with your 2005fpw in order to get the extra native resolution to be available.

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joeP · Sep 29, 2005

nope,.. installed the monitor driver.. 1st thing i did.. i dunno

dhlucke · Sep 29, 2005

You have to set it to 1680x1050. That is your native resolution.

Update the monitor driver, graphics card driver, restart the computer and try again. Some don't even have to update the monitor driver but I did.

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TheGreatGrapeApe · Sep 29, 2005

So did you do as Crash (edit: and Dh) indicated?

Go into control panel and then go to display and then settings and move the slider to the appropriate resolution. With the latest nV drivers you should see the native resolution, older drivers had difficulty showing them and <A HREF="http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=435692#435692" target="_new">you had to hack them into your system</A>.

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Edited by TheGreatGrapeApe on 09/28/05 09:28 PM.

joeP · Sep 29, 2005

ok.. i tried the 1680 display.. it looked THE same.. i have a newer driver then the website for my pny card.. (when i tired installing it . it said i had a newer version). i did not try to update the monitor driver.. but for the reason that i never did when it was hooked up to my old comp and picture was great.and i also had it on the same settin 1152x864(on my old comp). i know its hard to tech somthing over the internet.. but my issue is that the monitor looked better on a 4 yr old comp.. with no new drivers.. then it does on a new comp i built with all new drivers.

morbidangel · Sep 29, 2005

its possible your video card is shot or at least the pin outs are, try using a different monitor on that PC.

Clob · Sep 29, 2005

Then simply remove the drivers... Remember.. If it aint broke, dont fix it!

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joeP · Sep 29, 2005

i didnt just add the new drivers and it started workin bad.. i had my old comp.. then bought my new monitor.. i had it hooked up to my old comp(for about 1 month b4 i had all the hardware for my new comp).. picture was GREAT( on a 4 yr old comp).. i built my new comp and of course used the lasest drivers.. well b4 and after i used the drivers. the picture quality looks like poo.. make more sence?

dhlucke · Sep 30, 2005

picture looks like poo? LOL

Dude, you know the monitor is good. So the problem is either the graphics card or the drivers. Now you have to figure out which.

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dhlucke · Sep 30, 2005

1152x864 is still the wrong resolution.

Do you wear glasses? j/k

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dhlucke · Sep 30, 2005

This is unbelievable but I just looked up a few 6800GT's and the max resolution they support for flat panel monitors is 1600x1200. PNY was one of them.

Nvidia might have just hosed this guy.

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mpasternak · Sep 30, 2005

nV didnt' hose the guy. he hosed himself by buying a card before checking out it's maximum resolution

anyways, you can force non standard resolutions using powerstrip (google it) and clarify things up a great deal.

but if i'm not mistaken, don't most of those Dell large cinemadisplay screens require dual link DVI? he said he moved over to DVI cable instead. maybe thats the problem

ChipDeath · Sep 30, 2005

Now on my new comp.. i have the same videos.. and they look VERY pixelated.

Is this only when playing videos? If so, I think you might have a codec-related problem rather than a driver/hardware issue.

What do you mean by 'Pixelated', as exactly as you can describe it?

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joeP · Sep 30, 2005

by pixelated i mean. i can see like every block.. but use i thought it might be a codec problem too.. but i have tried gettin the newest from microsoft.. but i know there is other places to get them from too.. no i am not a computer guru.. nor try to be.. so i'm sure i over looked many things. but thanks for the help so far

TheGreatGrapeApe · Sep 30, 2005

Whoa, Whoa, his display is 16x10, so below the 16x12 limit.

It's a TMDS limitation for most cards, and it will support higher resolution at reduced blanking.

Check the limit for the ATi and Matrox card and you will find the same for all but their top cards.

However nVidia is notorious for haiving poor TMDS quality which may hurt image quality when approaching the threshold;

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TheGreatGrapeApe · Sep 30, 2005

by pixelated i mean. i can see like every block..

You mean you can see every pixel in a fixed pixel display, well that's kinda what LCD is, fixed pixel.

The pixel width isn't very small on those displays either (the 20" is almost as many pixels as my laptop 17").

My solution to you.... Move your face further from the screen. :tongue:

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dhlucke · Oct 1, 2005

It's a bit above 1600 though.

Is this guy talking only about videos or about everything?

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TheGreatGrapeApe · Oct 1, 2005

Dunno.

But yeah you're talking about the native 1680x1050, which is the 16:10 format. However that's still less pixels to send info for than 1600x1200. So it's still well within the limits of the single link TMDS (as long as it's not crapping out with long cable lengths like in the THG tests).

I'm not sure if it's global, but it sounds like it.

If it's video, then he might even be stretching the image, while before on the CRT it just automatically resized for the proper resolution. The stretched image would also put alot more strain on the graphics card and CPU.

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joeP · Oct 1, 2005

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ok my frined sent me that movie.. he said it was clear on his.. mine .. i could coount the box.. it was 40 across and i think 26 down.. thats what i mean by pixelated i guess.. i can see boxes. and the image quality succks

dhlucke · Oct 1, 2005

That movie is 320x240

If that's all you're seeing (40x26), then it has nothing to do with your resolution. It's a video/codec issue as far as I can tell.

You still haven't been very clear with what your problem is though. Is it two things? Can you set your desktop resolution to your native resolution of 1680x1050? If you can't then you need to fix that first. After you've solved that I would download vlc media player to see if your movies are playing correctly. The reason I recommend vlc is because you don't really need codecs to get it to work with 99% of the media out there.

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