Pricing on ATI's new cards

[KCjoker]

Little on the high side to compete with Nvidia's top cards. The mid range should sell well though.

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[pauldh]

Um, the X1800XT's list price is $50 less than the 7800GTX list price. That's awesome. Street prices are different than MSRP. If yields are good X1800XT will drop below list and possibly launch a little below.


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[TheGreatGrapeApe]

Doesn't that all depend on performance?

BTW, <A HREF="http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20050621/nvidia_7800-01.html" target="_new">the 256MB GF7800GTX was piced higher</A> than the X1800XT 512MB, so it seems better as an introductory MSRP. Who knows what street prices will be if there's enough product to move. And that too will likely depend alot on my first statement.


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[TheGreatGrapeApe]

Damn you beat me to it.

Took too long answering the other thread and looking for THG's MSRP quote! :tongue:


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[KCjoker]

True, I'm keeping street prices in mind. Hopefully ATI has enough supply to keep prices down. Also they couldn't have the introductory prices what Nvidia's were since the GTX had no competitor at the time.
<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by kcjoker on 09/28/05 11:41 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[morbidangel]

i guess the best thing before buying a new video card is waiting to see what ATI is putting out huh? I am itching to buy a new one but i know ATI will probably have something better, I hope i can wait.

 

[pauldh]

hehe, I win. I guess it pays to respond from memory out of pure emotion, not taking time for facts and links to back them up. With 512MB of that killer ram, I am surprised that MSRP wasn't $599 or higher for R520. Utoh, why would it list for less?, can we take a guess at performance?


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[TheGreatGrapeApe]

I don't think it's performance, I think it's like nV's GF6800GT strategy, price them at the bare minimum or near a loss simply to move large enough volume to get production ramped up to the point where the margins increase due to production savings. That's a wild guess at pricing, but if you're seen to be behind the other company, then what better way to boost sales than by coming out with a very competitively priced product?

Of course it also leads us to believe that the X1800XT-512 won't be so much better performing than the GF7800GTX to justify a very large premium, just the premium over street price. Of course that might not be the case either since if they can reduce per-chip costs due to the process shrink (excluding the terrible R&D phase) it might be noticeably powerful, but this price still gives them a good mark-up and returns them to good margins that were lost in the last gen.


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[pauldh]

If X1800XT performed identical to 7800GTX, it would be worth $50 at least to have that extra memory (COD2). Plus there's gotta be some room for OC'in the ram even more.


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[pauldh]

I do like your thoughts because it goes along with high supply. Or possibly they will have so few XT's that they can afford to price all 50 of them $50 cheaper :tongue: . Of course then the etailers will mark them up a couple hundred for starters.



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[TheGreatGrapeApe]

Of course then the etailers will mark them up a couple hundred for starters.

And that's my only caveat to this pricing thing, the e-gouging ba$$turdz!

Alot of people would've bought ALOT of GF6800Us and X800XTPEs had they been selling at their MSRP and not integer multiples of those prices!

Personally I'd still prefer something a little more elegant, but it would be nice to get an X1800XT just to rub Kinney's nose in it. However I still don't like power cables in the rig and would prefer something (a card) that doesn't draw more power than my Xbox and TV, and probably even Laptop combined!!


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[pauldh]

*paul pulls a classic misquote just to see how it feels when others do it to you*

I still don't like power cables in the rig

You prefer the cards with their own external PSU's. :lol:


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<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Pauldh on 09/29/05 02:06 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[TheGreatGrapeApe]

LOL!

Yes that would be quoting me in an out of body, errrr.... out of context experience/way.

No cables in or out! :tongue:

Bring on the PCIe 150+Watt !


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[Gamer_369]

Those prices seem to be more ideal as far as competition goes, than the MSRP's I saw at Anandtech a few weeks ago.

I'd probably wait a few weeks after launch, though, and could potentially save some money perhaps. Once you have both the x1800 and the 7800 GTX on the market, and like you said, depending on performance, we could see prices differently than what was suggested by both Hexus and Anand.

It'll be interesting...

Personally I'd still prefer something a little more elegant, but it would be nice to get an X1800XT just to rub Kinney's nose in it.

Maybe I'll just get two x850 XT PE's in CrossFire to replace my 9800 Pro. That sounds reasonable, enough. (lol, j/k )