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April 13, 2005 1:37:42 AM

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I used Add/Remove Programs to get rid of QuickBooks on my new Dell,
but I see there is a ton more that Intuit garbage still on my drive
that does not show up in the Add/Remove Programs.

There is also a boatload of Intuit junk still in the registry of XP
Pro.

Will I run into a problem if I manually delete it all from my drive
and registry?
Anonymous
April 13, 2005 1:58:41 AM

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<joe@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:i81p515akahbb92vrc31smi87hdr4h6up2@4ax.com...
>I used Add/Remove Programs to get rid of QuickBooks on my new Dell,
> but I see there is a ton more that Intuit garbage still on my drive
> that does not show up in the Add/Remove Programs.
>
> There is also a boatload of Intuit junk still in the registry of XP
> Pro.
>
> Will I run into a problem if I manually delete it all from my drive
> and registry?
>
>

Probably not if you do it carefully. Before you start, manually create a
system restore point that you can return to if needed.


Stew
Anonymous
April 13, 2005 3:33:24 AM

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Yes, you probably will. It's not a good idea to go rummaging through your
hard disk or registry to delete stuff.

For help in removing QuickBooks contact Intuit - they wrote the software and
provided it to Dell.

Speaking very generally: Uninstalling software does not necessarily remove
everything that was installed, particularly in the registry. This is
probably intentional, in that the uninstall routine is erring on the side of
safety. Better to leave behind keys that won't affect your computer than to
take the risk of damaging a user's registry.

Ted Zieglar

<joe@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:i81p515akahbb92vrc31smi87hdr4h6up2@4ax.com...
>I used Add/Remove Programs to get rid of QuickBooks on my new Dell,
> but I see there is a ton more that Intuit garbage still on my drive
> that does not show up in the Add/Remove Programs.
>
> There is also a boatload of Intuit junk still in the registry of XP
> Pro.
>
> Will I run into a problem if I manually delete it all from my drive
> and registry?
>
>
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April 13, 2005 3:33:25 AM

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On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 23:33:24 -0400, "Ted Zieglar" <teddyz@notmail.com>
wrote:

>Yes, you probably will. It's not a good idea to go rummaging through your
>hard disk or registry to delete stuff.
>
>For help in removing QuickBooks contact Intuit - they wrote the software and
>provided it to Dell.
>
>Speaking very generally: Uninstalling software does not necessarily remove
>everything that was installed, particularly in the registry. This is
>probably intentional, in that the uninstall routine is erring on the side of
>safety. Better to leave behind keys that won't affect your computer than to
>take the risk of damaging a user's registry.
>
>Ted Zieglar
>
I am aware of that, but this bugger has TONS of stuff left, and most
of it looks like working parts of the suite(?)

I'm not a newbie at deleting slop from the registry in Win 98, but
I'm am totally unfamiliar with XP.

I guess I shall make that Restore Point, as I don't feel comfortable
as of yet explorting/importing the XP registry.

Thanks to all for the good advice.
April 13, 2005 5:27:37 AM

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<joe@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:i81p515akahbb92vrc31smi87hdr4h6up2@4ax.com...
>I used Add/Remove Programs to get rid of QuickBooks on my new Dell,
> but I see there is a ton more that Intuit garbage still on my drive
> that does not show up in the Add/Remove Programs.
>
> There is also a boatload of Intuit junk still in the registry of XP
> Pro.
>
> Will I run into a problem if I manually delete it all from my drive
> and registry?
>
>

Try RegCleaner http://www.majorgeeks.com/download460.html
I have never had a problem with it.
It has automatic registry backup feature.

Steve
Anonymous
April 13, 2005 7:26:00 AM

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S.Lewis wrote:

> <joe@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:i81p515akahbb92vrc31smi87hdr4h6up2@4ax.com...
>
>>I used Add/Remove Programs to get rid of QuickBooks on my new Dell,
>>but I see there is a ton more that Intuit garbage still on my drive
>>that does not show up in the Add/Remove Programs.
>>
>>There is also a boatload of Intuit junk still in the registry of XP
>>Pro.
>>
>>Will I run into a problem if I manually delete it all from my drive
>>and registry?
>>
>>
>
>
> Probably not if you do it carefully. Before you start, manually create a
> system restore point that you can return to if needed.
>
>
> Stew
>
>
Or just backup the registry (File -> Export from the registry's root)
and don't empty the trash until you reboot.
Anonymous
April 13, 2005 8:07:34 AM

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You are being TOO charitable. "erring on the side of >safety." Hah! First,
Micro$oft created a world-class horror show with the registry, its organization,
its entirely cryptic nature, and its needless complexity. Next, some software
writers are able to slog through the registry quagmire, and leave the registry
in a somewhat clean state. Yes, there are some entries left behind, but there
are not a lot of them. Other software writers are just as incompetent as
Micro$oft's, and they leave a mess behind like little children do.

I would not hesitate to delete everything related to QuickBooks installed under
the Program Files folder. As for the registry, I'd leave the cleanup to the
good registry cleanup tool.

Compared to Windows 98, the XP registry is structured more or less the same, but
it has specific sections for each user ID in the system, and it seems to create
an on-the-fly section (more than one?) representing the currently logged in
user... Ben Myers

On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 23:33:24 -0400, "Ted Zieglar" <teddyz@notmail.com> wrote:

>Yes, you probably will. It's not a good idea to go rummaging through your
>hard disk or registry to delete stuff.
>
>For help in removing QuickBooks contact Intuit - they wrote the software and
>provided it to Dell.
>
>Speaking very generally: Uninstalling software does not necessarily remove
>everything that was installed, particularly in the registry. This is
>probably intentional, in that the uninstall routine is erring on the side of
>safety. Better to leave behind keys that won't affect your computer than to
>take the risk of damaging a user's registry.
>
>Ted Zieglar
>
><joe@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>news:i81p515akahbb92vrc31smi87hdr4h6up2@4ax.com...
>>I used Add/Remove Programs to get rid of QuickBooks on my new Dell,
>> but I see there is a ton more that Intuit garbage still on my drive
>> that does not show up in the Add/Remove Programs.
>>
>> There is also a boatload of Intuit junk still in the registry of XP
>> Pro.
>>
>> Will I run into a problem if I manually delete it all from my drive
>> and registry?
>>
>>
>
April 13, 2005 8:39:51 AM

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Steve wrote:
>Try RegCleaner http://www.majorgeeks.com/download460.html
>I have never had a problem with it.
>It has automatic registry backup feature.
Ageed!!!
Should fix your problem easily.
Use this program regularly on many systems with no
problems.
Dave
Anonymous
April 13, 2005 1:33:35 PM

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You make some good points Ben, as usual. I think the more responsible
software vendors secretly harbor the same fear and loathing of the registry,
so in their uninstall routines they touch the registry only as absolutely
necessary.

Ted Zieglar

<ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
news:425c98fa.24523523@nntp.charter.net...
> You are being TOO charitable. "erring on the side of >safety." Hah!
First,
> Micro$oft created a world-class horror show with the registry, its
organization,
> its entirely cryptic nature, and its needless complexity. Next, some
software
> writers are able to slog through the registry quagmire, and leave the
registry
> in a somewhat clean state. Yes, there are some entries left behind, but
there
> are not a lot of them. Other software writers are just as incompetent as
> Micro$oft's, and they leave a mess behind like little children do.
>
> I would not hesitate to delete everything related to QuickBooks installed
under
> the Program Files folder. As for the registry, I'd leave the cleanup to
the
> good registry cleanup tool.
>
> Compared to Windows 98, the XP registry is structured more or less the
same, but
> it has specific sections for each user ID in the system, and it seems to
create
> an on-the-fly section (more than one?) representing the currently logged
in
> user... Ben Myers
>
> On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 23:33:24 -0400, "Ted Zieglar" <teddyz@notmail.com>
wrote:
>
> >Yes, you probably will. It's not a good idea to go rummaging through your
> >hard disk or registry to delete stuff.
> >
> >For help in removing QuickBooks contact Intuit - they wrote the software
and
> >provided it to Dell.
> >
> >Speaking very generally: Uninstalling software does not necessarily
remove
> >everything that was installed, particularly in the registry. This is
> >probably intentional, in that the uninstall routine is erring on the side
of
> >safety. Better to leave behind keys that won't affect your computer than
to
> >take the risk of damaging a user's registry.
> >
> >Ted Zieglar
> >
> ><joe@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> >news:i81p515akahbb92vrc31smi87hdr4h6up2@4ax.com...
> >>I used Add/Remove Programs to get rid of QuickBooks on my new Dell,
> >> but I see there is a ton more that Intuit garbage still on my drive
> >> that does not show up in the Add/Remove Programs.
> >>
> >> There is also a boatload of Intuit junk still in the registry of XP
> >> Pro.
> >>
> >> Will I run into a problem if I manually delete it all from my drive
> >> and registry?
> >>
> >>
> >
>
Anonymous
April 13, 2005 2:53:18 PM

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"Ted Zieglar" <teddyz@notmail.com> wrote:

>You make some good points Ben, as usual. I think the more responsible
>software vendors secretly harbor the same fear and loathing of the registry,
>so in their uninstall routines they touch the registry only as absolutely
>necessary.

A third practice common with Intuit, Symantec, and many other S/W
publishing empires is that when you install the first, and only,
program you buy from them, they create a "shared" folder, to hold
"common" *.dlls and other elements used by all
Intuit/Symantec/etc programs you might eventually decide to
purchase, on the C:\ drive, no matter where you install the
program itself. These shared files, and their attendant registry
pointers, are often not removed when you change your mind and
uninstall the sole program you bought.

In my case when removing that sole program I got from whoever, I
just delete that shared folder and its files. Then rely on my
regular run of my registry checker program to ID those now
orphaned registry entries, and present me with the option to
delete them.
--
OJ III
[Email to Yahoo address may be burned before reading.
Lower and crunch the sig and you'll net me at comcast.]
Anonymous
April 13, 2005 3:34:02 PM

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Ah yes, and isn't that a double edged sword? Symantec sank many hooks deep
into my system, which in and of itself wasn't the worst thing...but then
they decided that it will no longer be possible to upgrade most (if not all)
of their Norton-branded software without first uninstalling every last one
of those hooks in a protracted serious of complicated and tedious
procedures. (Symantec's knowledge base estimates it will take approximately
30 minutes to completely uninstall Norton Antivirus.)

And even then you may not be out of the woods. For example, the names of
toolbars in Internet Explorer (View > Toolbars) were replaced with blanks
after I uninstalled NAV following Symantec's instructions. That was the
final straw for me. After year's of being an ardent supporter and defender
of Norton products I have banned them from my system. With the exception of
Ghost, which doesn't sink any hooks, and even then, once True Image aquires
some of the features I like in Ghost, Symantec is personna non grata.

Ted Zieglar


"Ogden Johnson III" <oj3usmc@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4ubq51927c101jatdc667f2fnqf57ru4jg@4ax.com...
> "Ted Zieglar" <teddyz@notmail.com> wrote:
>
> >You make some good points Ben, as usual. I think the more responsible
> >software vendors secretly harbor the same fear and loathing of the
registry,
> >so in their uninstall routines they touch the registry only as absolutely
> >necessary.
>
> A third practice common with Intuit, Symantec, and many other S/W
> publishing empires is that when you install the first, and only,
> program you buy from them, they create a "shared" folder, to hold
> "common" *.dlls and other elements used by all
> Intuit/Symantec/etc programs you might eventually decide to
> purchase, on the C:\ drive, no matter where you install the
> program itself. These shared files, and their attendant registry
> pointers, are often not removed when you change your mind and
> uninstall the sole program you bought.
>
> In my case when removing that sole program I got from whoever, I
> just delete that shared folder and its files. Then rely on my
> regular run of my registry checker program to ID those now
> orphaned registry entries, and present me with the option to
> delete them.
> --
> OJ III
> [Email to Yahoo address may be burned before reading.
> Lower and crunch the sig and you'll net me at comcast.]
Anonymous
April 13, 2005 4:17:54 PM

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"Ted Zieglar" <teddyz@notmail.com> wrote:

>And even then you may not be out of the woods. For example, the names of
>toolbars in Internet Explorer (View > Toolbars) were replaced with blanks
>after I uninstalled NAV following Symantec's instructions. That was the
>final straw for me. After year's of being an ardent supporter and defender
>of Norton products I have banned them from my system. With the exception of
>Ghost, which doesn't sink any hooks, and even then, once True Image aquires
>some of the features I like in Ghost, Symantec is personna non grata.

Peter Norton must be having apoplexy/spinning in the grave over
what Symantec has done with the programs carrying his name over
the years since they bought him out.

[Spinning in the grave, since he may well be dead - otherwise,
unless senile, he certainly would have long since sued to get his
name taken off anything connected with Symantec.]
--
OJ III
[Email to Yahoo address may be burned before reading.
Lower and crunch the sig and you'll net me at comcast.]
April 13, 2005 7:39:00 PM

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On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:17:54 -0400, Ogden Johnson III
<oj3usmc@yahoo.com> wrote:

>"Ted Zieglar" <teddyz@notmail.com> wrote:
>
>>And even then you may not be out of the woods. For example, the names of
>>toolbars in Internet Explorer (View > Toolbars) were replaced with blanks
>>after I uninstalled NAV following Symantec's instructions. That was the
>>final straw for me. After year's of being an ardent supporter and defender
>>of Norton products I have banned them from my system. With the exception of
>>Ghost, which doesn't sink any hooks, and even then, once True Image aquires
>>some of the features I like in Ghost, Symantec is personna non grata.
>
>Peter Norton must be having apoplexy/spinning in the grave over
>what Symantec has done with the programs carrying his name over
>the years since they bought him out.
>
>[Spinning in the grave, since he may well be dead - otherwise,
>unless senile, he certainly would have long since sued to get his
>name taken off anything connected with Symantec.]

Even after I had used ADD/REMOVE to uninstall the Intuit junk, there
still remained enough on the machine that continually prompted me to
put Dell's CD in the drive and reinstall QuickBooks. How about that
for gall?

I manually deleted the damn folders and then scoured the registry for
all Intuit happenings - and there were *plenty* of them, which I
promptly deleted.

Does
Anonymous
April 13, 2005 8:52:20 PM

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How about all the stuff in the registry you don't know about, like all those
CLSID hex numbers, and libraries in the Windows folder that don't
immediately look like they came from Intuit? And what happens when, months
from now, something on your computer starts acting weird and you can't
figure out why?

And as long as you're intent on going it 'your way': Windows ships with
thousands of registry keys that you'll probably never use - why not get rid
of them too?

Ted Zieglar

<joe@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:n40r51llab4jjuk85vtdtep9qnfglh15mr@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:17:54 -0400, Ogden Johnson III
> <oj3usmc@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >"Ted Zieglar" <teddyz@notmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>And even then you may not be out of the woods. For example, the names of
> >>toolbars in Internet Explorer (View > Toolbars) were replaced with
blanks
> >>after I uninstalled NAV following Symantec's instructions. That was the
> >>final straw for me. After year's of being an ardent supporter and
defender
> >>of Norton products I have banned them from my system. With the exception
of
> >>Ghost, which doesn't sink any hooks, and even then, once True Image
aquires
> >>some of the features I like in Ghost, Symantec is personna non grata.
> >
> >Peter Norton must be having apoplexy/spinning in the grave over
> >what Symantec has done with the programs carrying his name over
> >the years since they bought him out.
> >
> >[Spinning in the grave, since he may well be dead - otherwise,
> >unless senile, he certainly would have long since sued to get his
> >name taken off anything connected with Symantec.]
>
> Even after I had used ADD/REMOVE to uninstall the Intuit junk, there
> still remained enough on the machine that continually prompted me to
> put Dell's CD in the drive and reinstall QuickBooks. How about that
> for gall?
>
> I manually deleted the damn folders and then scoured the registry for
> all Intuit happenings - and there were *plenty* of them, which I
> promptly deleted.
>
> Does
Anonymous
April 13, 2005 11:39:15 PM

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I think Peter is still alive and well, living off a perpetual annuity from
Symantec for dragging his name though the mud... Ben Myers

On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:17:54 -0400, Ogden Johnson III <oj3usmc@yahoo.com> wrote:

>"Ted Zieglar" <teddyz@notmail.com> wrote:
>
>>And even then you may not be out of the woods. For example, the names of
>>toolbars in Internet Explorer (View > Toolbars) were replaced with blanks
>>after I uninstalled NAV following Symantec's instructions. That was the
>>final straw for me. After year's of being an ardent supporter and defender
>>of Norton products I have banned them from my system. With the exception of
>>Ghost, which doesn't sink any hooks, and even then, once True Image aquires
>>some of the features I like in Ghost, Symantec is personna non grata.
>
>Peter Norton must be having apoplexy/spinning in the grave over
>what Symantec has done with the programs carrying his name over
>the years since they bought him out.
>
>[Spinning in the grave, since he may well be dead - otherwise,
>unless senile, he certainly would have long since sued to get his
>name taken off anything connected with Symantec.]
>--
>OJ III
>[Email to Yahoo address may be burned before reading.
>Lower and crunch the sig and you'll net me at comcast.]
Anonymous
April 13, 2005 11:39:16 PM

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Would that I could be dirtied with such mud.

Ted Zieglar

<ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
news:425d7536.28356404@nntp.charter.net...
> I think Peter is still alive and well, living off a perpetual annuity from
> Symantec for dragging his name though the mud... Ben Myers
>
> On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:17:54 -0400, Ogden Johnson III <oj3usmc@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>
> >"Ted Zieglar" <teddyz@notmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>And even then you may not be out of the woods. For example, the names of
> >>toolbars in Internet Explorer (View > Toolbars) were replaced with
blanks
> >>after I uninstalled NAV following Symantec's instructions. That was the
> >>final straw for me. After year's of being an ardent supporter and
defender
> >>of Norton products I have banned them from my system. With the exception
of
> >>Ghost, which doesn't sink any hooks, and even then, once True Image
aquires
> >>some of the features I like in Ghost, Symantec is personna non grata.
> >
> >Peter Norton must be having apoplexy/spinning in the grave over
> >what Symantec has done with the programs carrying his name over
> >the years since they bought him out.
> >
> >[Spinning in the grave, since he may well be dead - otherwise,
> >unless senile, he certainly would have long since sued to get his
> >name taken off anything connected with Symantec.]
> >--
> >OJ III
> >[Email to Yahoo address may be burned before reading.
> >Lower and crunch the sig and you'll net me at comcast.]
>
Anonymous
April 13, 2005 11:39:16 PM

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ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers) wrote:

>I think Peter is still alive and well, living off a perpetual annuity from
>Symantec for dragging his name though the mud... Ben Myers

I hope that's true - the still alive part, the less said about
Symantec the better. His utilities [when they *were* Peter
Norton's this and that] saved my a** dozens of times in the Bad
Old DOS Days.

Alas, Symantec has taken some and bloated the heck out of them,
whether playing with existing code or adding useless new
"features", and discarded others because they couldn't dumb them
down enough for the average new AOL/WebTV refugee.
--
OJ III
[Email to Yahoo address may be burned before reading.
Lower and crunch the sig and you'll net me at comcast.]
Anonymous
April 14, 2005 6:43:43 AM

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Ogden Johnson III wrote:
> "Ted Zieglar" <teddyz@notmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>And even then you may not be out of the woods. For example, the names of
>>toolbars in Internet Explorer (View > Toolbars) were replaced with blanks
>>after I uninstalled NAV following Symantec's instructions. That was the
>>final straw for me. After year's of being an ardent supporter and defender
>>of Norton products I have banned them from my system. With the exception of
>>Ghost, which doesn't sink any hooks, and even then, once True Image aquires
>>some of the features I like in Ghost, Symantec is personna non grata.
>
>
> Peter Norton must be having apoplexy/spinning in the grave over
> what Symantec has done with the programs carrying his name over
> the years since they bought him out.
>
> [Spinning in the grave, since he may well be dead - otherwise,
> unless senile, he certainly would have long since sued to get his
> name taken off anything connected with Symantec.]

Doubt it - Symantec bought the Norton name (the one really valuable item
in the deal).
April 14, 2005 3:25:59 PM

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On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:52:20 -0400, "Ted Zieglar" <teddyz@notmail.com>
wrote:

>How about all the stuff in the registry you don't know about, like all those
>CLSID hex numbers, and libraries in the Windows folder that don't
>immediately look like they came from Intuit? And what happens when, months
>from now, something on your computer starts acting weird and you can't
>figure out why?
>
>And as long as you're intent on going it 'your way': Windows ships with
>thousands of registry keys that you'll probably never use - why not get rid
>of them too?
>
>Ted Zieglar
>

I think you have a bad anger problem, sonny.

But then, that's why they made Agent with kill filtering capability --

PLONK!
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