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November 19, 2012 5:13:39 AM

I would like a new gaming laptop and not sure if these options are too much or too little but here.
I play most newer games and would like to play new games for a while. Right now I am buying it to play Battlefield 3 on high settings.

Display:
15.6" or higher
Video Card:
Geforce 650 (or higher) with 2gb of onboard ram
Processor:
The best one for gaming? AMD or Intel I don't know.
Memory:
6GB Of DDR3 or higher.
Hard Drive:
at least 750GB and hopefully a fast one
Battery Life:
Doesn't matter
Weight:
Doesn't matter

What would a laptop like this cost and is it too cheap to play new games on High?
So far I looked at some and I found the Lenovo Y580 that had what I wanted but not sure if Lenovo is a good company. I heard ASUS is good.

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November 19, 2012 5:24:50 AM

Lenovo Y580 is your best option
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November 19, 2012 5:31:57 AM

bigcyco1 said:
Lenovo Y580 is your best option


Is my price adequate or too much for the options I am looking for?
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November 19, 2012 5:54:58 AM

kolkim said:
Is my price adequate or too much for the options I am looking for?
Actually it's barley enough :lol: 
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November 19, 2012 6:39:27 AM

stonedatheist said:
If you can swing the extra $200, then by far your best option would be http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Don't know anything about AMD so if that processor and gpu is good. I like the BD rom, And speakers but I would like a picture and laptop battery life on it :p 
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November 19, 2012 6:47:57 AM

The CPU is really the only downfall to it. It's a quad-core so it gets the job done but an Intel would no doubt be faster. But when it comes to gaming, the CPU isn't as important as the GPU. The 7970M is more than twice as fast as the GTX660M. With the GTX660M, you're looking at 1366x768 for BF3 on high whereas you'll be rocking 1080p for BF3 on high if you have the mighty 7970M.
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November 19, 2012 6:57:43 AM

That's the first link I posted is that same laptop on amazon for 60$ less and the more I look at it the more I like it. The look of it is medium for me, but for the price and what you get I am impressed. I read some really good reviews for it. The only downside is it's resolution at 1366 x 768.

Could you tell me what the M is on the Graphics? Like Geforce 660M and then the 650. I'm assuming the 660M is better right?
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November 19, 2012 7:01:05 AM

stonedatheist said:
The 7970M is more than twice as fast as the GTX660M. With the GTX660M, you're looking at 1366x768 for BF3 on high whereas you'll be rocking 1080p for BF3 on high if you have the mighty 7970M.


Is this then, http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683...
with 7670M with only 1gb of dedicated gpu ram, better than the GTX 660M?
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November 19, 2012 7:17:17 AM

kolkim said:
Is this then, http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683...
with 7670M with only 1gb of dedicated gpu ram, better than the GTX 660M?


No, not even close. The GTX660M is about twice as fast as the 7670M. The "M" just means mobile. To help guide you about which GPUs are better than which, I suggest taking a look at http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-car... or http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-HD-7970M.72675.....
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November 19, 2012 7:32:08 AM

Laptop graphics is weaker than the desktop counterpart. The GTX 660m is actually a lower clocked desktop GT 640 GDDR5.

So yes, it is weaker than the desktop GTX 460.
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November 19, 2012 7:35:23 AM

Wow. so how futureproof would you say the 660M is?

Now I'm really liking that MSI and considering saving up for it.
Is there a link like the graphics card hierarchy for CPUs?
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November 19, 2012 7:46:00 AM

Should be good for games for at least 3 years. Of course you won't max any game out, and you also will have to reduce settings as game requirement increase. But that's normal for laptop gamers.
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November 19, 2012 7:47:50 AM

Pyree said:
Should be good for games for at least 3 years. Of course you won't max any game out, and you also will have to reduce settings as game requirement increase. But that's normal for laptop gamers.


how about the future-proof of the 7970M?
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November 19, 2012 7:51:09 AM

4-5 but CPU is a concern.
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November 19, 2012 7:57:00 AM

Pyree said:
4-5 but CPU is a concern.


I C. Do you have any recommendations of a GPU, or laptop?
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November 19, 2012 8:25:20 AM

kolkim said:
how about the future-proof of the 7970M?


7970m is dekstop 7870 with lower clocks
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November 19, 2012 9:01:44 AM

Not that I know of. The Lenovo Y580 at below $1000 with GTX 660m is the sweet spot for entrance gaming laptop with best price to performance ratio.
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November 19, 2012 5:59:06 PM

Right at or around $1000, the Y580 pretty much owns it. The Y580 can be sometimes found between $800-850 on sale as well...
There really isn't anything in the price range with that many hardware perks and sheer level of quality.


At $1200, lots of options open up.
The GX60, or MSI white-box with i7/675m (older fermi GPU), or Sager/clevo 9130 with i7/670mx (but no OS).

Most current laptop GPUs are about as future proof as a desktop GPU of one or two models down.
A reminder that mobile CPUs usually run at lower clock rates than their desktop counterparts as well. :-)
(so if you underclock your desktop 7870 by 15%, it will still outperform the 7970m because the laptop's i7 is at 2.3-3.3GHz instead of 3.4-3.8GHz stock or 4.5GHz OC'd)
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November 19, 2012 6:21:27 PM

Hey mate try this one out?
http://www.xoticpc.com/forcemsi-16f3-22001-670m-msi-gt6...
It is supplied by force, but the barebone (chassis) is from an MSI laptop. Goes for 1000$ and includes a gtx 670m and i7-3610QM which should meet your requirements and price.. good luck with your purchase!
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November 19, 2012 9:59:36 PM

You know the OS is not included right? So that's another $105 for both laptop. Not to mention shipping and tax (Definitely you need to pay for shipping. Ask xoticPC how much. Tax is a may be, I don't know about tax in Canada. You have to ask custom).
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November 20, 2012 9:54:23 AM

kolkim said:
Wow. so how futureproof would you say the 660M is?

Now I'm really liking that MSI and considering saving up for it.
Is there a link like the graphics card hierarchy for CPUs?


kolkim said:
how about the future-proof of the 7970M?


The 7970M is much more futureproof and is more than twice as fast as the 660M. That MSI laptop will likely be the best GPU performance for the price that you can find anywhere, the CPU is really the only concern but it should be adequate for gaming. I was trying to give you a link for notebookcheck.net but the period caused the link to fail. http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Processors-Benchmar... this should be a good reference for CPUs, the main benchmark I look at is Cinebench 11.5 because it is a synthetic workload and will stress the CPUs the best. That notebookcheck.net site is amazing for comparing GPUs and will even give you gaming benchmarks so definitely check that out. Here are links for the 660M & 7970M: http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-HD-7970M.72675.... & http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-660M.71... . The 7970M is pretty much tied with the GTX 680M as the single most powerful laptop GPU so in order to get better GPU performance than that, you are looking at $2k+ for a laptop with SLI or CF.

*edited for minor spelling error*
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November 20, 2012 10:10:16 AM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... you can also check this out. It has a GT 645M which actually has the same amount of cores as the GTX 660M, it just has lower clocks and slower memory but it is 83% as fast and offers good bang for the buck. I just thought I'd share this because it is at least $100 cheaper than a Y580 but wouldn't sacrifice much gaming performance. You might not be able to play BF3 on high though. The 660M is much pretty much the minimum I would get for BF3 on high on for 1366x768 resolution.
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November 21, 2012 3:06:01 PM

While stoned is correct about the 7970m being twice as powerful as a 660m, the GX60's A10 CPU will bottleneck the 7970m and will not result in twice the performance.

This doesn't mean the GX60 isn't better than the 660m-equipped laptops for most games, it just means that it isn't twice as good without an intel i7 behind it.

Example:
Y580 660m/i7 (stock) = 2500P score 3dmark11
GX60 7970m/A10 (stock) = 4200P score 3dmark11

A reminder that 3dmark11 is synthetic, but its a fairly good measuring stick for the average DX11 game with medium CPU dependency. FPS games will favor the GX60 more and RTS games would likely favor the Y580 more.

If your budget is truely capped at $1000, then the Y580 seems like the best deal for you. This is especially true if you can find it for 800-850 on sale.
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November 23, 2012 6:46:48 PM

KernalPanic said:
While stoned is correct about the 7970m being twice as powerful as a 660m, the GX60's A10 CPU will bottleneck the 7970m and will not result in twice the performance.

This doesn't mean the GX60 isn't better than the 660m-equipped laptops for most games, it just means that it isn't twice as good without an intel i7 behind it.

Example:
Y580 660m/i7 (stock) = 2500P score 3dmark11
GX60 7970m/A10 (stock) = 4200P score 3dmark11

A reminder that 3dmark11 is synthetic, but its a fairly good measuring stick for the average DX11 game with medium CPU dependency. FPS games will favor the GX60 more and RTS games would likely favor the Y580 more.

If your budget is truely capped at $1000, then the Y580 seems like the best deal for you. This is especially true if you can find it for 800-850 on sale.


All of this. I never stated that the MSI laptop with the 7970m will be twice as good for gaming as the Y580, I simply stated that the 7970m is twice as fast of a GPU as the GTX660m. I agree with everything you said though including that the Y580 is the best given the budget constraints.
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