I don't hate PCI cards at all, the question was posed "Are there any PCI cards out there that compare to the gforce AGP cards?" To that the answer is no, Even the AGP versions of the Vodoo cards dollar for dollar can't compare to the Gforce cards, let alone the PCI version. To this I gave an answer. Now, if the question was " Are there any PCI cards that will be suitable to run my current favorite games then the answer quite possible could be yes. Please read the question as it is asked and then answer it accordingly. i will grant you that there definatly are PCI cards out there that will definatly outperform his current onboard video solution.