Transferring files from one HD to another EXACTLY !

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On my PC i have 2 Hard Drives, both have XP on them, one is a 160GB Hard
Drive (My main one) and the other is my Old 20GB Hard Drive (which used to
be the main one, but is now just a place to dump music/pictures etc !).

My 160GB Hard Drive has just went dodgy. Some things work, some don't. I
reformatted it and it got to 49% then wouldn't go any further. I ran a
ScanDisc and again it got to about 50% and just hung there for a few hours.
I now think there is something wrong with the actual Hard Drive (or the Hard
Disk inside it)

Anyway, to cut a long story short, i am now reverting back to the 20GB as my
main Hard Drive, I just spent a whole night putting things back on it (10GB
spare at the moment). I am going to buy another bigger Hard Drive and my
main question is:- Since my 20GB HD is fine, is there a way (or software) to
transfer the OS/Files etc from the 20GB to my new HD without having to
re-install WinXP, drivers, files etc onto the new one ??.

i.e. Basically put, can I make an EXACT clone of my 20GB HD onto my new HD
without having to go through the whole process of installing the OS (WinXP
Pro), files, drivers, settings, favourites etc etc ??


Cheers
Andy
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  1. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support (More info?)

    "Andy" <no@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
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    > On my PC i have 2 Hard Drives, both have XP on them, one is a 160GB Hard
    > Drive (My main one) and the other is my Old 20GB Hard Drive (which used to
    > be the main one, but is now just a place to dump music/pictures etc !).
    >
    > My 160GB Hard Drive has just went dodgy. Some things work, some don't. I
    > reformatted it and it got to 49% then wouldn't go any further. I ran a
    > ScanDisc and again it got to about 50% and just hung there for a few hours.
    > I now think there is something wrong with the actual Hard Drive (or the Hard
    > Disk inside it)

    Run a diagnostic check on the HD from the disk provided with the drive or
    download it from the manufacturers support site.

    >
    > Anyway, to cut a long story short, i am now reverting back to the 20GB as my
    > main Hard Drive, I just spent a whole night putting things back on it (10GB
    > spare at the moment). I am going to buy another bigger Hard Drive and my
    > main question is:- Since my 20GB HD is fine, is there a way (or software) to
    > transfer the OS/Files etc from the 20GB to my new HD without having to
    > re-install WinXP, drivers, files etc onto the new one ??.
    >
    > i.e. Basically put, can I make an EXACT clone of my 20GB HD onto my new HD
    > without having to go through the whole process of installing the OS (WinXP
    > Pro), files, drivers, settings, favourites etc etc ??

    To get an exact copy/clone you will have to first create an image of the drive
    using a third party backup imaging/cloning app which would then be used to clone
    the image onto the new HD.


    --

    Brian A. Sesko
    { MS MVP_Shell/User }
    Conflicts start where information lacks.
    http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
    http://basconotw.mvps.org/
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    Prior advice answers your question, however one comment here - with two HDs
    installed the transfer speed is at the rate provided by the "slowest"
    drive - in other others using an older drive with lower specs than the new
    drive forces the new drive to operate at the lower specs.

    --
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    AL(KB3U) & Darlene Romanosky N. Ft.
    Myers, FL
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    That, at one time, was true. Not any longer with the newer M/B's and
    chipsets.


    --
    Regards,

    Richard Urban

    If you knew as much as you thought you know,
    You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!


    "Al Romanosky" <ajrjdr@comcast.net> wrote in message
    news:OVzsQjMgFHA.1416@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
    > Prior advice answers your question, however one comment here - with two
    > HDs installed the transfer speed is at the rate provided by the "slowest"
    > drive - in other others using an older drive with lower specs than the new
    > drive forces the new drive to operate at the lower specs.
    >
    > --
    > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    > AL(KB3U) & Darlene Romanosky N. Ft.
    > Myers, FL
    > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    >
    >
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    "Al Romanosky" <ajrjdr@comcast.net> wrote in message
    news:OVzsQjMgFHA.1416@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
    > Prior advice answers your question, however one comment here - with two
    > HDs installed the transfer speed is at the rate provided by the "slowest"
    > drive - in other others using an older drive with lower specs than the new
    > drive forces the new drive to operate at the lower specs.
    >

    That depends on the chipset and the driver. Most newer chipsets with the
    right driver will use the fastest transfer speed for each drive regardless
    of how they are hooked up.

    Kerry

    > --
    > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    > AL(KB3U) & Darlene Romanosky N. Ft.
    > Myers, FL
    > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    >
    >
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    Hi Andy
    You can easily clone the contents of your 20GB drive onto the new one.
    Symantec Ghost will do that, as will Acronis TrueImage. There are also
    others but those are the market leaders. I prefer TrueImage, but there is
    nothing wrong with Ghost either. TrueImage really requires only a small
    amount of technical knowledge and can be used later as a backup program.
    There was a free version of TrueImage called Personal edition on the cover
    disk of Personal Computer World-in the last 6 months-sorry but that wont be
    much help unless you are in UK

    In respect of your old 160GB drive-are you sure you left it long enough to
    format? Those big drives take forever when fully formated. I'd have left it
    overnight.

    Chelsea
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    "Andy" <no@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
    news:dabo8g$8ik$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...
    > On my PC i have 2 Hard Drives, both have XP on them, one is a 160GB Hard
    > Drive (My main one) and the other is my Old 20GB Hard Drive (which used to
    > be the main one, but is now just a place to dump music/pictures etc !).
    >
    > My 160GB Hard Drive has just went dodgy. Some things work, some don't. I
    > reformatted it and it got to 49% then wouldn't go any further. I ran a
    > ScanDisc and again it got to about 50% and just hung there for a few
    > hours.
    > I now think there is something wrong with the actual Hard Drive (or the
    > Hard
    > Disk inside it)
    >
    > Anyway, to cut a long story short, i am now reverting back to the 20GB as
    > my
    > main Hard Drive, I just spent a whole night putting things back on it
    > (10GB
    > spare at the moment). I am going to buy another bigger Hard Drive and my
    > main question is:- Since my 20GB HD is fine, is there a way (or software)
    > to
    > transfer the OS/Files etc from the 20GB to my new HD without having to
    > re-install WinXP, drivers, files etc onto the new one ??.
    >
    > i.e. Basically put, can I make an EXACT clone of my 20GB HD onto my new HD
    > without having to go through the whole process of installing the OS (WinXP
    > Pro), files, drivers, settings, favourites etc etc ??
    >
    >
    > Cheers
    > Andy


    Andy:
    You've already received responses to your query indicating that the most
    practical way to achieve your objective is to use a disk imaging program
    (Ghost & Acronis True Image were mentioned -- they're both fine products) to
    clone the contents of your 20 GB drive to your new drive. I just wanted to
    add that should you purchase a retail boxed version of the HD, it will come
    with a utility that allows you to clone the old drive to the new one. Should
    you purchase an OEM version of the HD which normally does not come with this
    type of utility, it's usually available from the manufacturer's website at
    no cost. While this utility will do the job for you, its relatively slow
    cloning speed as compared with the previous products mentioned make it an
    impractical program for routine cloning of drives for backup purposes should
    you be thinking of using the utility for that operation. In that instance,
    you would be best served by purchasing a disk imaging program such as the
    ones mentioned.

    As far as your present "dodgy" (does that mean erratic?) HD, you really
    should download the manufacturer's diagnostic program to test the drive.
    Your problem in trying to format that disk does not, in itself, indicate a
    defective disk, although it might well be. The formatting problem could have
    a multitude of other causes. I assume you've been trying to format the disk
    using XP's disk management utility. Unless you've already tried this, you
    might want to first delete the partition(s) on that drive and then try
    formatting it. If that doesn't work, as a test, try formatting it with a DOS
    bootable floppy, e.g., a Win9x/Me startup disk, and see if that "takes".
    Anna
  7. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support (More info?)

    Yeah, i left it for about 3 hours !! - After about half an hour it stuck at
    49% and stayed that way for another 2 to 3 hours !!

    Cheers
    Andy


    "Chelsea" <gallium1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:uRemJhLgFHA.1416@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
    > Hi Andy
    > You can easily clone the contents of your 20GB drive onto the new one.
    > Symantec Ghost will do that, as will Acronis TrueImage. There are also
    > others but those are the market leaders. I prefer TrueImage, but there is
    > nothing wrong with Ghost either. TrueImage really requires only a small
    > amount of technical knowledge and can be used later as a backup program.
    > There was a free version of TrueImage called Personal edition on the cover
    > disk of Personal Computer World-in the last 6 months-sorry but that wont
    be
    > much help unless you are in UK
    >
    > In respect of your old 160GB drive-are you sure you left it long enough to
    > format? Those big drives take forever when fully formated. I'd have left
    it
    > overnight.
    >
    > Chelsea
    >
    >
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    Thanks Anna. Advice much appreciated !

    Kind Regards
    Andrew


    "Anna" <myname@myisp.net> wrote in message
    news:uCbzMNOgFHA.3936@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
    >
    > "Andy" <no@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
    > news:dabo8g$8ik$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...
    > > On my PC i have 2 Hard Drives, both have XP on them, one is a 160GB Hard
    > > Drive (My main one) and the other is my Old 20GB Hard Drive (which used
    to
    > > be the main one, but is now just a place to dump music/pictures etc !).
    > >
    > > My 160GB Hard Drive has just went dodgy. Some things work, some don't. I
    > > reformatted it and it got to 49% then wouldn't go any further. I ran a
    > > ScanDisc and again it got to about 50% and just hung there for a few
    > > hours.
    > > I now think there is something wrong with the actual Hard Drive (or the
    > > Hard
    > > Disk inside it)
    > >
    > > Anyway, to cut a long story short, i am now reverting back to the 20GB
    as
    > > my
    > > main Hard Drive, I just spent a whole night putting things back on it
    > > (10GB
    > > spare at the moment). I am going to buy another bigger Hard Drive and my
    > > main question is:- Since my 20GB HD is fine, is there a way (or
    software)
    > > to
    > > transfer the OS/Files etc from the 20GB to my new HD without having to
    > > re-install WinXP, drivers, files etc onto the new one ??.
    > >
    > > i.e. Basically put, can I make an EXACT clone of my 20GB HD onto my new
    HD
    > > without having to go through the whole process of installing the OS
    (WinXP
    > > Pro), files, drivers, settings, favourites etc etc ??
    > >
    > >
    > > Cheers
    > > Andy
    >
    >
    > Andy:
    > You've already received responses to your query indicating that the most
    > practical way to achieve your objective is to use a disk imaging program
    > (Ghost & Acronis True Image were mentioned -- they're both fine products)
    to
    > clone the contents of your 20 GB drive to your new drive. I just wanted to
    > add that should you purchase a retail boxed version of the HD, it will
    come
    > with a utility that allows you to clone the old drive to the new one.
    Should
    > you purchase an OEM version of the HD which normally does not come with
    this
    > type of utility, it's usually available from the manufacturer's website at
    > no cost. While this utility will do the job for you, its relatively slow
    > cloning speed as compared with the previous products mentioned make it an
    > impractical program for routine cloning of drives for backup purposes
    should
    > you be thinking of using the utility for that operation. In that instance,
    > you would be best served by purchasing a disk imaging program such as the
    > ones mentioned.
    >
    > As far as your present "dodgy" (does that mean erratic?) HD, you really
    > should download the manufacturer's diagnostic program to test the drive.
    > Your problem in trying to format that disk does not, in itself, indicate a
    > defective disk, although it might well be. The formatting problem could
    have
    > a multitude of other causes. I assume you've been trying to format the
    disk
    > using XP's disk management utility. Unless you've already tried this, you
    > might want to first delete the partition(s) on that drive and then try
    > formatting it. If that doesn't work, as a test, try formatting it with a
    DOS
    > bootable floppy, e.g., a Win9x/Me startup disk, and see if that "takes".
    > Anna
    >
    >
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    Anna is right Andy, don't give up on your hard disk too soon One last
    thought, look in your system bios and see if something described as
    S.M.A.R.T is enabled. That is hardware level code that will talk to the IDE
    controller on your hard disk. The idea is for the sensors in the hard disk
    to tell the system via SMART that the disk is about to fail or is faulty-if
    that is the case SMART warns the user on startup and this gives the user
    time to save data and maybe backup. Almost all hard disks made in the last
    2-3 years use SMART. If SMART is on and there is no error and if you still
    want to persevere with that drive try finding a copy of Partition
    Magic-there are trials around. Partition Magic formats a hard disk thousands
    of times faster than Windows. I have no idea how it does this, it just does.
    Good luck

    Chelsea
  10. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support (More info?)

    Cheers for that !. Yes i have now tried other ways, but have definitely come
    to the conclusion the Hard Drive IS faulty !. It always stops at 49% whether
    i'm reformatting, Scan disking etc. I have even plugged it in as a USB HD
    and tried Scandisk from there, again it sticks at 49% !!!!

    Cheers
    Andy


    "Chelsea" <gallium1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:uHLdSFTgFHA.3788@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
    > Anna is right Andy, don't give up on your hard disk too soon One last
    > thought, look in your system bios and see if something described as
    > S.M.A.R.T is enabled. That is hardware level code that will talk to the
    IDE
    > controller on your hard disk. The idea is for the sensors in the hard disk
    > to tell the system via SMART that the disk is about to fail or is
    faulty-if
    > that is the case SMART warns the user on startup and this gives the user
    > time to save data and maybe backup. Almost all hard disks made in the last
    > 2-3 years use SMART. If SMART is on and there is no error and if you still
    > want to persevere with that drive try finding a copy of Partition
    > Magic-there are trials around. Partition Magic formats a hard disk
    thousands
    > of times faster than Windows. I have no idea how it does this, it just
    does.
    > Good luck
    >
    > Chelsea
    >
    >
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    Andy,

    Now that you have, more or less, concluded that the drive is bad - and that
    you will lose everything on it - there is one thing left to try. You said
    you re-formatted the drive and the format fails.

    Delete all partitions off of the drive. Make it just as it was when the
    drive was new - empty. This will clear out the MBR and partitions tables.
    Now create a new partition and try one last time to format the NEW partition
    as NTFS. I have seen this work.

    --
    Regards,

    Richard Urban

    Quote from: George Ankner
    "If you knew as much as you thought you know,
    You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!"

    "Andy" <no@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
    news:dao0v3$avu$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
    > Cheers for that !. Yes i have now tried other ways, but have definitely
    > come
    > to the conclusion the Hard Drive IS faulty !. It always stops at 49%
    > whether
    > i'm reformatting, Scan disking etc. I have even plugged it in as a USB HD
    > and tried Scandisk from there, again it sticks at 49% !!!!
    >
    > Cheers
    > Andy
    >
    >
    >
    > "Chelsea" <gallium1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:uHLdSFTgFHA.3788@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
    >> Anna is right Andy, don't give up on your hard disk too soon One last
    >> thought, look in your system bios and see if something described as
    >> S.M.A.R.T is enabled. That is hardware level code that will talk to the
    > IDE
    >> controller on your hard disk. The idea is for the sensors in the hard
    >> disk
    >> to tell the system via SMART that the disk is about to fail or is
    > faulty-if
    >> that is the case SMART warns the user on startup and this gives the user
    >> time to save data and maybe backup. Almost all hard disks made in the
    >> last
    >> 2-3 years use SMART. If SMART is on and there is no error and if you
    >> still
    >> want to persevere with that drive try finding a copy of Partition
    >> Magic-there are trials around. Partition Magic formats a hard disk
    > thousands
    >> of times faster than Windows. I have no idea how it does this, it just
    > does.
    >> Good luck
    >>
    >> Chelsea
    >>
    >>
    >
    >
  12. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support (More info?)

    How would i go about that (being a 'novice to imtermediate' !). Could i just
    open it up within my good drive and delete everything off it, then try
    reformatting it ? (if so, then i have already tried that). When i
    reformatted it, winXP asked me if i wanted to delete any partitions from it
    and i said yes, but still no luck when i went on to format it ??

    Cheers
    Andy


    "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:eIWAhGIhFHA.1048@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
    > Andy,
    >
    > Now that you have, more or less, concluded that the drive is bad - and
    that
    > you will lose everything on it - there is one thing left to try. You said
    > you re-formatted the drive and the format fails.
    >
    > Delete all partitions off of the drive. Make it just as it was when the
    > drive was new - empty. This will clear out the MBR and partitions tables.
    > Now create a new partition and try one last time to format the NEW
    partition
    > as NTFS. I have seen this work.
    >
    > --
    > Regards,
    >
    > Richard Urban
    >
    > Quote from: George Ankner
    > "If you knew as much as you thought you know,
    > You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!"
    >
    > "Andy" <no@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
    > news:dao0v3$avu$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
    > > Cheers for that !. Yes i have now tried other ways, but have definitely
    > > come
    > > to the conclusion the Hard Drive IS faulty !. It always stops at 49%
    > > whether
    > > i'm reformatting, Scan disking etc. I have even plugged it in as a USB
    HD
    > > and tried Scandisk from there, again it sticks at 49% !!!!
    > >
    > > Cheers
    > > Andy
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > "Chelsea" <gallium1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > > news:uHLdSFTgFHA.3788@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
    > >> Anna is right Andy, don't give up on your hard disk too soon One last
    > >> thought, look in your system bios and see if something described as
    > >> S.M.A.R.T is enabled. That is hardware level code that will talk to the
    > > IDE
    > >> controller on your hard disk. The idea is for the sensors in the hard
    > >> disk
    > >> to tell the system via SMART that the disk is about to fail or is
    > > faulty-if
    > >> that is the case SMART warns the user on startup and this gives the
    user
    > >> time to save data and maybe backup. Almost all hard disks made in the
    > >> last
    > >> 2-3 years use SMART. If SMART is on and there is no error and if you
    > >> still
    > >> want to persevere with that drive try finding a copy of Partition
    > >> Magic-there are trials around. Partition Magic formats a hard disk
    > > thousands
    > >> of times faster than Windows. I have no idea how it does this, it just
    > > does.
    > >> Good luck
    > >>
    > >> Chelsea
    > >>
    > >>
    > >
    > >
    >
    >
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    See, thing is (if i understand what you are saying right), i'm not sure at
    what point the disk inside the HD is faulty at. Do i assume that with the
    error being at about 49% everytime that it must mean the error is at around
    80Gb on the HD ? (HD is 160Gb total). In which case is it worth trying to
    partition the HD into 70Gb or so (if you can see my line of thought here !).
    Or does it indeed work like that ?

    Cheers
    Andy


    "Andy" <no@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
    news:darj17$b1q$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
    > How would i go about that (being a 'novice to imtermediate' !). Could i
    just
    > open it up within my good drive and delete everything off it, then try
    > reformatting it ? (if so, then i have already tried that). When i
    > reformatted it, winXP asked me if i wanted to delete any partitions from
    it
    > and i said yes, but still no luck when i went on to format it ??
    >
    > Cheers
    > Andy
    >
    >
    >
    > "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:eIWAhGIhFHA.1048@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
    > > Andy,
    > >
    > > Now that you have, more or less, concluded that the drive is bad - and
    > that
    > > you will lose everything on it - there is one thing left to try. You
    said
    > > you re-formatted the drive and the format fails.
    > >
    > > Delete all partitions off of the drive. Make it just as it was when the
    > > drive was new - empty. This will clear out the MBR and partitions
    tables.
    > > Now create a new partition and try one last time to format the NEW
    > partition
    > > as NTFS. I have seen this work.
    > >
    > > --
    > > Regards,
    > >
    > > Richard Urban
    > >
    > > Quote from: George Ankner
    > > "If you knew as much as you thought you know,
    > > You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!"
    > >
    > > "Andy" <no@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
    > > news:dao0v3$avu$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
    > > > Cheers for that !. Yes i have now tried other ways, but have
    definitely
    > > > come
    > > > to the conclusion the Hard Drive IS faulty !. It always stops at 49%
    > > > whether
    > > > i'm reformatting, Scan disking etc. I have even plugged it in as a USB
    > HD
    > > > and tried Scandisk from there, again it sticks at 49% !!!!
    > > >
    > > > Cheers
    > > > Andy
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "Chelsea" <gallium1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > > > news:uHLdSFTgFHA.3788@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
    > > >> Anna is right Andy, don't give up on your hard disk too soon One last
    > > >> thought, look in your system bios and see if something described as
    > > >> S.M.A.R.T is enabled. That is hardware level code that will talk to
    the
    > > > IDE
    > > >> controller on your hard disk. The idea is for the sensors in the hard
    > > >> disk
    > > >> to tell the system via SMART that the disk is about to fail or is
    > > > faulty-if
    > > >> that is the case SMART warns the user on startup and this gives the
    > user
    > > >> time to save data and maybe backup. Almost all hard disks made in the
    > > >> last
    > > >> 2-3 years use SMART. If SMART is on and there is no error and if you
    > > >> still
    > > >> want to persevere with that drive try finding a copy of Partition
    > > >> Magic-there are trials around. Partition Magic formats a hard disk
    > > > thousands
    > > >> of times faster than Windows. I have no idea how it does this, it
    just
    > > > does.
    > > >> Good luck
    > > >>
    > > >> Chelsea
    > > >>
    > > >>
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >
    >
    >
  14. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support (More info?)

    Tried using Partition magic 8. Tried to make a new partition, got the
    error:-

    "Operation (1 of 1)
    Formatting partition: D:
    (BADMBR, Primary volume, 152625.3 MB on Disk:6)
    New label and type: D (NTFS)"

    Does this mean the HD is cooked ???!!!! (tried everything i know now, is it
    time to give up on it ??)

    Cheers'Andy


    "Andy" <no@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
    news:darjef$9mh$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
    > See, thing is (if i understand what you are saying right), i'm not sure at
    > what point the disk inside the HD is faulty at. Do i assume that with the
    > error being at about 49% everytime that it must mean the error is at
    around
    > 80Gb on the HD ? (HD is 160Gb total). In which case is it worth trying to
    > partition the HD into 70Gb or so (if you can see my line of thought here
    !).
    > Or does it indeed work like that ?
    >
    > Cheers
    > Andy
    >
    >
    > "Andy" <no@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
    > news:darj17$b1q$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
    > > How would i go about that (being a 'novice to imtermediate' !). Could i
    > just
    > > open it up within my good drive and delete everything off it, then try
    > > reformatting it ? (if so, then i have already tried that). When i
    > > reformatted it, winXP asked me if i wanted to delete any partitions from
    > it
    > > and i said yes, but still no luck when i went on to format it ??
    > >
    > > Cheers
    > > Andy
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > > news:eIWAhGIhFHA.1048@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
    > > > Andy,
    > > >
    > > > Now that you have, more or less, concluded that the drive is bad - and
    > > that
    > > > you will lose everything on it - there is one thing left to try. You
    > said
    > > > you re-formatted the drive and the format fails.
    > > >
    > > > Delete all partitions off of the drive. Make it just as it was when
    the
    > > > drive was new - empty. This will clear out the MBR and partitions
    > tables.
    > > > Now create a new partition and try one last time to format the NEW
    > > partition
    > > > as NTFS. I have seen this work.
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > > Regards,
    > > >
    > > > Richard Urban
    > > >
    > > > Quote from: George Ankner
    > > > "If you knew as much as you thought you know,
    > > > You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!"
    > > >
    > > > "Andy" <no@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
    > > > news:dao0v3$avu$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
    > > > > Cheers for that !. Yes i have now tried other ways, but have
    > definitely
    > > > > come
    > > > > to the conclusion the Hard Drive IS faulty !. It always stops at 49%
    > > > > whether
    > > > > i'm reformatting, Scan disking etc. I have even plugged it in as a
    USB
    > > HD
    > > > > and tried Scandisk from there, again it sticks at 49% !!!!
    > > > >
    > > > > Cheers
    > > > > Andy
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > "Chelsea" <gallium1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > > > > news:uHLdSFTgFHA.3788@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
    > > > >> Anna is right Andy, don't give up on your hard disk too soon One
    last
    > > > >> thought, look in your system bios and see if something described as
    > > > >> S.M.A.R.T is enabled. That is hardware level code that will talk to
    > the
    > > > > IDE
    > > > >> controller on your hard disk. The idea is for the sensors in the
    hard
    > > > >> disk
    > > > >> to tell the system via SMART that the disk is about to fail or is
    > > > > faulty-if
    > > > >> that is the case SMART warns the user on startup and this gives the
    > > user
    > > > >> time to save data and maybe backup. Almost all hard disks made in
    the
    > > > >> last
    > > > >> 2-3 years use SMART. If SMART is on and there is no error and if
    you
    > > > >> still
    > > > >> want to persevere with that drive try finding a copy of Partition
    > > > >> Magic-there are trials around. Partition Magic formats a hard disk
    > > > > thousands
    > > > >> of times faster than Windows. I have no idea how it does this, it
    > just
    > > > > does.
    > > > >> Good luck
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Chelsea
    > > > >>
    > > > >>
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >
    >
    >
  15. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support (More info?)

    If you deleted the old partition first, and then tried to create a new
    partition - then yes, I would say that the drive is toast. See if it's still
    under warranty?

    --
    Regards,

    Richard Urban
    Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

    Quote from: George Ankner
    "If you knew as much as you thought you know,
    You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!"

    "Andy" <no@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
    news:darvk2$trr$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk...
    > Tried using Partition magic 8. Tried to make a new partition, got the
    > error:-
    >
    > "Operation (1 of 1)
    > Formatting partition: D:
    > (BADMBR, Primary volume, 152625.3 MB on Disk:6)
    > New label and type: D (NTFS)"
    >
    > Does this mean the HD is cooked ???!!!! (tried everything i know now, is
    > it
    > time to give up on it ??)
    >
    > Cheers'Andy
    >
    >
    >
    > "Andy" <no@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
    > news:darjef$9mh$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
    >> See, thing is (if i understand what you are saying right), i'm not sure
    >> at
    >> what point the disk inside the HD is faulty at. Do i assume that with the
    >> error being at about 49% everytime that it must mean the error is at
    > around
    >> 80Gb on the HD ? (HD is 160Gb total). In which case is it worth trying to
    >> partition the HD into 70Gb or so (if you can see my line of thought here
    > !).
    >> Or does it indeed work like that ?
    >>
    >> Cheers
    >> Andy
    >>
    >>
    >> "Andy" <no@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
    >> news:darj17$b1q$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
    >> > How would i go about that (being a 'novice to imtermediate' !). Could i
    >> just
    >> > open it up within my good drive and delete everything off it, then try
    >> > reformatting it ? (if so, then i have already tried that). When i
    >> > reformatted it, winXP asked me if i wanted to delete any partitions
    >> > from
    >> it
    >> > and i said yes, but still no luck when i went on to format it ??
    >> >
    >> > Cheers
    >> > Andy
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >> > news:eIWAhGIhFHA.1048@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
    >> > > Andy,
    >> > >
    >> > > Now that you have, more or less, concluded that the drive is bad -
    >> > > and
    >> > that
    >> > > you will lose everything on it - there is one thing left to try. You
    >> said
    >> > > you re-formatted the drive and the format fails.
    >> > >
    >> > > Delete all partitions off of the drive. Make it just as it was when
    > the
    >> > > drive was new - empty. This will clear out the MBR and partitions
    >> tables.
    >> > > Now create a new partition and try one last time to format the NEW
    >> > partition
    >> > > as NTFS. I have seen this work.
    >> > >
    >> > > --
    >> > > Regards,
    >> > >
    >> > > Richard Urban
    >> > >
    >> > > Quote from: George Ankner
    >> > > "If you knew as much as you thought you know,
    >> > > You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!"
    >> > >
    >> > > "Andy" <no@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
    >> > > news:dao0v3$avu$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
    >> > > > Cheers for that !. Yes i have now tried other ways, but have
    >> definitely
    >> > > > come
    >> > > > to the conclusion the Hard Drive IS faulty !. It always stops at
    >> > > > 49%
    >> > > > whether
    >> > > > i'm reformatting, Scan disking etc. I have even plugged it in as a
    > USB
    >> > HD
    >> > > > and tried Scandisk from there, again it sticks at 49% !!!!
    >> > > >
    >> > > > Cheers
    >> > > > Andy
    >> > > >
    >> > > >
    >> > > >
    >> > > > "Chelsea" <gallium1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >> > > > news:uHLdSFTgFHA.3788@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
    >> > > >> Anna is right Andy, don't give up on your hard disk too soon One
    > last
    >> > > >> thought, look in your system bios and see if something described
    >> > > >> as
    >> > > >> S.M.A.R.T is enabled. That is hardware level code that will talk
    >> > > >> to
    >> the
    >> > > > IDE
    >> > > >> controller on your hard disk. The idea is for the sensors in the
    > hard
    >> > > >> disk
    >> > > >> to tell the system via SMART that the disk is about to fail or is
    >> > > > faulty-if
    >> > > >> that is the case SMART warns the user on startup and this gives
    >> > > >> the
    >> > user
    >> > > >> time to save data and maybe backup. Almost all hard disks made in
    > the
    >> > > >> last
    >> > > >> 2-3 years use SMART. If SMART is on and there is no error and if
    > you
    >> > > >> still
    >> > > >> want to persevere with that drive try finding a copy of Partition
    >> > > >> Magic-there are trials around. Partition Magic formats a hard disk
    >> > > > thousands
    >> > > >> of times faster than Windows. I have no idea how it does this, it
    >> just
    >> > > > does.
    >> > > >> Good luck
    >> > > >>
    >> > > >> Chelsea
    >> > > >>
    >> > > >>
    >> > > >
    >> > > >
    >> > >
    >> > >
    >> >
    >> >
    >>
    >>
    >
    >
  16. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support (More info?)

    I think it's still under warranty, however there are all my work files on
    there and they're confidential, also bank details / passwords, i don't think
    i'd want to do that !. having said that, i think with the initial
    re-formatting (albeit only got to 49% !) they may have gone anyway ?? I
    don't know ! I have backed up all the work files onto a USB HD (luckily !!)

    Cheers anyway !

    Andy


    "Richard Urban [MVP]" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:eYijR1ZhFHA.1460@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
    > If you deleted the old partition first, and then tried to create a new
    > partition - then yes, I would say that the drive is toast. See if it's
    still
    > under warranty?
    >
    > --
    > Regards,
    >
    > Richard Urban
    > Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
    >
    > Quote from: George Ankner
    > "If you knew as much as you thought you know,
    > You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!"
    >
    > "Andy" <no@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
    > news:darvk2$trr$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk...
    > > Tried using Partition magic 8. Tried to make a new partition, got the
    > > error:-
    > >
    > > "Operation (1 of 1)
    > > Formatting partition: D:
    > > (BADMBR, Primary volume, 152625.3 MB on Disk:6)
    > > New label and type: D (NTFS)"
    > >
    > > Does this mean the HD is cooked ???!!!! (tried everything i know now, is
    > > it
    > > time to give up on it ??)
    > >
    > > Cheers'Andy
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > "Andy" <no@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
    > > news:darjef$9mh$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
    > >> See, thing is (if i understand what you are saying right), i'm not sure
    > >> at
    > >> what point the disk inside the HD is faulty at. Do i assume that with
    the
    > >> error being at about 49% everytime that it must mean the error is at
    > > around
    > >> 80Gb on the HD ? (HD is 160Gb total). In which case is it worth trying
    to
    > >> partition the HD into 70Gb or so (if you can see my line of thought
    here
    > > !).
    > >> Or does it indeed work like that ?
    > >>
    > >> Cheers
    > >> Andy
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> "Andy" <no@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
    > >> news:darj17$b1q$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
    > >> > How would i go about that (being a 'novice to imtermediate' !). Could
    i
    > >> just
    > >> > open it up within my good drive and delete everything off it, then
    try
    > >> > reformatting it ? (if so, then i have already tried that). When i
    > >> > reformatted it, winXP asked me if i wanted to delete any partitions
    > >> > from
    > >> it
    > >> > and i said yes, but still no luck when i went on to format it ??
    > >> >
    > >> > Cheers
    > >> > Andy
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> > "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > >> > news:eIWAhGIhFHA.1048@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
    > >> > > Andy,
    > >> > >
    > >> > > Now that you have, more or less, concluded that the drive is bad -
    > >> > > and
    > >> > that
    > >> > > you will lose everything on it - there is one thing left to try.
    You
    > >> said
    > >> > > you re-formatted the drive and the format fails.
    > >> > >
    > >> > > Delete all partitions off of the drive. Make it just as it was when
    > > the
    > >> > > drive was new - empty. This will clear out the MBR and partitions
    > >> tables.
    > >> > > Now create a new partition and try one last time to format the NEW
    > >> > partition
    > >> > > as NTFS. I have seen this work.
    > >> > >
    > >> > > --
    > >> > > Regards,
    > >> > >
    > >> > > Richard Urban
    > >> > >
    > >> > > Quote from: George Ankner
    > >> > > "If you knew as much as you thought you know,
    > >> > > You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!"
    > >> > >
    > >> > > "Andy" <no@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
    > >> > > news:dao0v3$avu$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
    > >> > > > Cheers for that !. Yes i have now tried other ways, but have
    > >> definitely
    > >> > > > come
    > >> > > > to the conclusion the Hard Drive IS faulty !. It always stops at
    > >> > > > 49%
    > >> > > > whether
    > >> > > > i'm reformatting, Scan disking etc. I have even plugged it in as
    a
    > > USB
    > >> > HD
    > >> > > > and tried Scandisk from there, again it sticks at 49% !!!!
    > >> > > >
    > >> > > > Cheers
    > >> > > > Andy
    > >> > > >
    > >> > > >
    > >> > > >
    > >> > > > "Chelsea" <gallium1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > >> > > > news:uHLdSFTgFHA.3788@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
    > >> > > >> Anna is right Andy, don't give up on your hard disk too soon One
    > > last
    > >> > > >> thought, look in your system bios and see if something described
    > >> > > >> as
    > >> > > >> S.M.A.R.T is enabled. That is hardware level code that will talk
    > >> > > >> to
    > >> the
    > >> > > > IDE
    > >> > > >> controller on your hard disk. The idea is for the sensors in the
    > > hard
    > >> > > >> disk
    > >> > > >> to tell the system via SMART that the disk is about to fail or
    is
    > >> > > > faulty-if
    > >> > > >> that is the case SMART warns the user on startup and this gives
    > >> > > >> the
    > >> > user
    > >> > > >> time to save data and maybe backup. Almost all hard disks made
    in
    > > the
    > >> > > >> last
    > >> > > >> 2-3 years use SMART. If SMART is on and there is no error and if
    > > you
    > >> > > >> still
    > >> > > >> want to persevere with that drive try finding a copy of
    Partition
    > >> > > >> Magic-there are trials around. Partition Magic formats a hard
    disk
    > >> > > > thousands
    > >> > > >> of times faster than Windows. I have no idea how it does this,
    it
    > >> just
    > >> > > > does.
    > >> > > >> Good luck
    > >> > > >>
    > >> > > >> Chelsea
    > >> > > >>
    > >> > > >>
    > >> > > >
    > >> > > >
    > >> > >
    > >> > >
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >>
    > >>
    > >
    > >
    >
    >
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