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Hiya,

Please point me to software that will detect these war drivers. wireless G

Thank you!!

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bam Bino <ban@lkdek.com> wrote:
> Hiya,
>
> Please point me to software that will detect these war drivers. wireless G

Impossible for many, as they only recieve.

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what about those wardrivers who attempt to access my network.

how can I log these attempts?


"Ian Stirling" <root@mauve.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> bam Bino <ban@lkdek.com> wrote:
> > Hiya,
> >
> > Please point me to software that will detect these war drivers. wireless
G
>
> Impossible for many, as they only recieve.

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In article <Oq6dnZ2XN-6bhg7dRVn-vA@comcast.com>, ban@LKDEK.COM says...
> what about those wardrivers who attempt to access my network.
>
> how can I log these attempts?
>
>
> "Ian Stirling" <root@mauve.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:a4Ckc.37948$Y%6.5193173@wards.force9.net...
> > bam Bino <ban@lkdek.com> wrote:
> > > Hiya,
> > >
> > > Please point me to software that will detect these war drivers. wireless
> G
> >
> > Impossible for many, as they only recieve.
>
>
>
Download a copy of AirSnare. This will let you montitor your network and
alert you when someone with a bogus MAC address tries to connect.

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In article <MPG.1afce841e42434649896aa@news.comcast.giganews.com>, Ben E. Brady <y2kbrady-no-spam@yahoo.com> wrote:
>In article <Oq6dnZ2XN-6bhg7dRVn-vA@comcast.com>, ban@LKDEK.COM says...
>> what about those wardrivers who attempt to access my network.
>>
>> how can I log these attempts?
>>
>>
>> "Ian Stirling" <root@mauve.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:a4Ckc.37948$Y%6.5193173@wards.force9.net...
>> > bam Bino <ban@lkdek.com> wrote:
>> > > Hiya,
>> > >
>> > > Please point me to software that will detect these war drivers. wireless
>> G
>> >
>> > Impossible for many, as they only recieve.
>>
>>
>>
>Download a copy of AirSnare. This will let you montitor your network and
>alert you when someone with a bogus MAC address tries to connect.
>

Normal router log wuld not show people attempting to attach?

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yah i guess. the linksyss G router has a log but it is just shows the last
100 with no timestamp
"Rico" <rico_001@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> In article <MPG.1afce841e42434649896aa@news.comcast.giganews.com>, Ben E.
Brady <y2kbrady-no-spam@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >In article <Oq6dnZ2XN-6bhg7dRVn-vA@comcast.com>, ban@LKDEK.COM says...
> >> what about those wardrivers who attempt to access my network.
> >>
> >> how can I log these attempts?
> >>
> >>
> >> "Ian Stirling" <root@mauve.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> >> news:a4Ckc.37948$Y%6.5193173@wards.force9.net...
> >> > bam Bino <ban@lkdek.com> wrote:
> >> > > Hiya,
> >> > >
> >> > > Please point me to software that will detect these war drivers.
wireless
> >> G
> >> >
> >> > Impossible for many, as they only recieve.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >Download a copy of AirSnare. This will let you montitor your network and
> >alert you when someone with a bogus MAC address tries to connect.
> >
>
> Normal router log wuld not show people attempting to attach?
>
>

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On Fri, 30 Apr 2004, bam Bino wrote:
> Please point me to software that will detect these war drivers. wireless G

How do you expect to know when someone is LISTENING only? IDIOT.

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Point taken.
Still, that "really smart" point has already emerged in this discussion.

For those, like you, who are not at the head of the class on this, I am
talking about those wardrivers who park outside my house and attempt a
network break-in.

Do these wardrivers stop being wardrivers when they have a foot on the brake
and a finger up my wireless g-hole?



"D. Stussy" <kd6lvw@bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote in message
news:Pine.LNX.4.58.0404231708030.70@kd6lvw.ampr.org...
> On Fri, 30 Apr 2004, bam Bino wrote:
> > Please point me to software that will detect these war drivers. wireless
G
>
> How do you expect to know when someone is LISTENING only? IDIOT.
>
>

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On Sun, 2 May 2004, bam Bino wrote:
> Point taken.
> Still, that "really smart" point has already emerged in this discussion.

At the time I posted my response, those other responses had not emerged at my
newsserver. Perhaps you [also] need a lesson on how newsgroups really work.

> For those, like you, who are not at the head of the class on this, I am
> talking about those wardrivers who park outside my house and attempt a
> network break-in.
>
> Do these wardrivers stop being wardrivers when they have a foot on the brake
> and a finger up my wireless g-hole?

Wardriving is the SCANNING phase. Actually connecting and using WLANs so found
is not part of wardriving. So, the answer to your last question is literally,
"Yes. They STOP being wardrivers when they have actually connected. At that
point, they are intruders (unless you have somehow already indicated that you
provide 'open' access)."

"Wardriving" sources from "wardialing," calling every number in a given region,
and the term was coined from the scan done in the movie "Wargames" 22 years ago.
It was simply a scan of the relevant phone numbers to see which ones had
computer modems on them. At no point did that scan actually attempt to enter
the systems found by the search by presenting a username or password. That was
done later and under manual control of the computer phreaker (usually a phreaker
in the case the phone numbers were not local calls). Note that I specifically
avoid the term "hacker" because this wasn't hacking.

If you knew what you were talking about, I shouldn't have to explain the terms
nor their origin. BTW, back then, 300 baud modems were the norm, but some were
lucky to have 1200 baud equipment. 2400 baud didn't show up until 1986.

Now go away little troll and bother someone else with your foolishness.

> "D. Stussy" <kd6lvw@bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote in message
> news:Pine.LNX.4.58.0404231708030.70@kd6lvw.ampr.org...
> > On Fri, 30 Apr 2004, bam Bino wrote:
> > > Please point me to software that will detect these war drivers. wireless > G
> >
> > How do you expect to know when someone is LISTENING only? IDIOT.

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yeah, but like i said, we already got past that. I guess i need to reiterate
that all over again for you one more time
Can you figure out what the real question is??

The real question is, "what is a program like airsnort for"

But thanks for staying up late wasting time on this one.



"D. Stussy" <kd6lvw@bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote in message
news:Pine.LNX.4.58.0404231850080.70@kd6lvw.ampr.org...
> On Sun, 2 May 2004, bam Bino wrote:
> > Point taken.
> > Still, that "really smart" point has already emerged in this discussion.
>
> At the time I posted my response, those other responses had not emerged at
my
> newsserver. Perhaps you [also] need a lesson on how newsgroups really
work.
>
> > For those, like you, who are not at the head of the class on this, I am
> > talking about those wardrivers who park outside my house and attempt a
> > network break-in.
> >
> > Do these wardrivers stop being wardrivers when they have a foot on the
brake
> > and a finger up my wireless g-hole?
>
> Wardriving is the SCANNING phase. Actually connecting and using WLANs so
found
> is not part of wardriving. So, the answer to your last question is
literally,
> "Yes. They STOP being wardrivers when they have actually connected. At
that
> point, they are intruders (unless you have somehow already indicated that
you
> provide 'open' access)."
>
> "Wardriving" sources from "wardialing," calling every number in a given
region,
> and the term was coined from the scan done in the movie "Wargames" 22
years ago.
> It was simply a scan of the relevant phone numbers to see which ones had
> computer modems on them. At no point did that scan actually attempt to
enter
> the systems found by the search by presenting a username or password.
That was
> done later and under manual control of the computer phreaker (usually a
phreaker
> in the case the phone numbers were not local calls). Note that I
specifically
> avoid the term "hacker" because this wasn't hacking.
>
> If you knew what you were talking about, I shouldn't have to explain the
terms
> nor their origin. BTW, back then, 300 baud modems were the norm, but some
were
> lucky to have 1200 baud equipment. 2400 baud didn't show up until 1986.
>
> Now go away little troll and bother someone else with your foolishness.
>
> > "D. Stussy" <kd6lvw@bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote in message
> > news:Pine.LNX.4.58.0404231708030.70@kd6lvw.ampr.org...
> > > On Fri, 30 Apr 2004, bam Bino wrote:
> > > > Please point me to software that will detect these war drivers.
wireless > G
> > >
> > > How do you expect to know when someone is LISTENING only? IDIOT.

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On Sun, 2 May 2004 02:06:24 -0600, "bam Bino" <ban@LKDEK.COM> wrote:

>yeah, but like i said, we already got past that. I guess i need to reiterate
>that all over again for you one more time
>Can you figure out what the real question is??
>
>The real question is, "what is a program like airsnort for"
>
>But thanks for staying up late wasting time on this one.
>
To be real specific "AirSnort is a wireless LAN (WLAN) tool which
recovers encryption keys. AirSnort operates by passively monitoring
transmissions, computing the encryption key when enough packets have
been gathered."
Now in actuallality is is used by technichians that go from place to
palce and need to connect their computer to a network without having
to manually reconfigure the computer each time. IT people come to mind
as they go from building to building, office to office, home to home.
I use the Windows version, Net Stumbler, when I go over to friends
homes to fix their home networks. Makes life easier when I can take a
known working computer and have it work on their system, then I know
it is each computer that needs tweaking or if mine doesn't work then
it is the main settings that need adjusting.

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In article <X8qdnSN154V9ugndRVn-vg@comcast.com>, "bam Bino" <ban@LKDEK.COM> wrote:
>yah i guess. the linksyss G router has a log but it is just shows the last
>100 with no timestamp

Plug the word 'Wallwatcher' into Google (without the quotes). Nice tool,
price is right and has worked well for me. As far as I know only for
Linksys Routers though. Guy does a nice job of supporting it as well. Worth
a look if you think you might have a potential problem with people trying
to associate. I was surprised at the number of port probes from the WAN
side at my network.


>"Rico" <rico_001@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1097qupm0ai84f6@corp.supernews.com...
>> In article <MPG.1afce841e42434649896aa@news.comcast.giganews.com>, Ben E.
>Brady <y2kbrady-no-spam@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >In article <Oq6dnZ2XN-6bhg7dRVn-vA@comcast.com>, ban@LKDEK.COM says...
>> >> what about those wardrivers who attempt to access my network.
>> >>
>> >> how can I log these attempts?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Ian Stirling" <root@mauve.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>> >> news:a4Ckc.37948$Y%6.5193173@wards.force9.net...
>> >> > bam Bino <ban@lkdek.com> wrote:
>> >> > > Hiya,
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Please point me to software that will detect these war drivers.
>wireless
>> >> G
>> >> >
>> >> > Impossible for many, as they only recieve.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >Download a copy of AirSnare. This will let you montitor your network and
>> >alert you when someone with a bogus MAC address tries to connect.
>> >
>>
>> Normal router log wuld not show people attempting to attach?
>>
>>
>
>

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In article <Pine.LNX.4.58.0404231708030.70@kd6lvw.ampr.org>, kd6lvw@kd6lvw.ampr.org wrote:
>On Fri, 30 Apr 2004, bam Bino wrote:
>> Please point me to software that will detect these war drivers. wireless G
>
>How do you expect to know when someone is LISTENING only? IDIOT.

Actually there is radio detection equipment that can detect recievers. The
tuned circuits in the reciever actually leak bits of RF. Granted it is very
specialized equipment, but it does exist. Don't know if they still do it,
but in the past that was one way the Brits knew who wasn't paying the TV
tax, they'd send a truck through the hoods listening for that leakage.

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In article <oJ-dnfUY6sF6AwndRVn-gw@comcast.com>, "bam Bino" <ban@LKDEK.COM> wrote:
>Point taken.
>Still, that "really smart" point has already emerged in this discussion.
>
>For those, like you, who are not at the head of the class on this, I am
>talking about those wardrivers who park outside my house and attempt a
>network break-in.
>
>Do these wardrivers stop being wardrivers when they have a foot on the brake
>and a finger up my wireless g-hole?

Yes, then they are warparkers <grin>

>
>
>
>"D. Stussy" <kd6lvw@bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote in message
>news:Pine.LNX.4.58.0404231708030.70@kd6lvw.ampr.org...
>> On Fri, 30 Apr 2004, bam Bino wrote:
>> > Please point me to software that will detect these war drivers. wireless
>G
>>
>> How do you expect to know when someone is LISTENING only? IDIOT.
>>
>>
>
>

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They do that now in the US.
They can tell who is listening to what FM or AM radio station in the grocery
store parking lot.

"Rico" <rico_001@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:109a4nu1rnnbr50@corp.supernews.com...
> In article <Pine.LNX.4.58.0404231708030.70@kd6lvw.ampr.org>,
kd6lvw@kd6lvw.ampr.org wrote:
> >On Fri, 30 Apr 2004, bam Bino wrote:
> >> Please point me to software that will detect these war drivers.
wireless G
> >
> >How do you expect to know when someone is LISTENING only? IDIOT.
>
> Actually there is radio detection equipment that can detect recievers. The
> tuned circuits in the reciever actually leak bits of RF. Granted it is
very
> specialized equipment, but it does exist. Don't know if they still do it,
> but in the past that was one way the Brits knew who wasn't paying the TV
> tax, they'd send a truck through the hoods listening for that leakage.
>
>

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On Sun, 02 May 2004 15:25:49 GMT, rico_001@hotmail.com (Rico) wrote:

>In article <Pine.LNX.4.58.0404231708030.70@kd6lvw.ampr.org>, kd6lvw@kd6lvw.ampr.org wrote:
>>On Fri, 30 Apr 2004, bam Bino wrote:
>>> Please point me to software that will detect these war drivers. wireless G
>>
>>How do you expect to know when someone is LISTENING only? IDIOT.
>
>Actually there is radio detection equipment that can detect recievers. The
>tuned circuits in the reciever actually leak bits of RF. Granted it is very
>specialized equipment, but it does exist. Don't know if they still do it,
>but in the past that was one way the Brits knew who wasn't paying the TV
>tax, they'd send a truck through the hoods listening for that leakage.
>
>
Police do it all the time with radar detectors here in the US.
Virginia has a law that says receiving radar signals from police is
illegal. They have a radar detector detector.
You get the detector back if you go to trial. It is unlawfull to have
it in use or within the drivers reach when the car is in motion, not
possess it.

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I HOPE YOU ARE LISTENING F/F GEORGE





"f/f george" <george@yourplace.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 02 May 2004 15:25:49 GMT, rico_001@hotmail.com (Rico) wrote:
>
> >In article <Pine.LNX.4.58.0404231708030.70@kd6lvw.ampr.org>,
kd6lvw@kd6lvw.ampr.org wrote:
> >>On Fri, 30 Apr 2004, bam Bino wrote:
> >>> Please point me to software that will detect these war drivers.
wireless G
> >>
> >>How do you expect to know when someone is LISTENING only? IDIOT.
> >
> >Actually there is radio detection equipment that can detect recievers.
The
> >tuned circuits in the reciever actually leak bits of RF. Granted it is
very
> >specialized equipment, but it does exist. Don't know if they still do it,
> >but in the past that was one way the Brits knew who wasn't paying the TV
> >tax, they'd send a truck through the hoods listening for that leakage.
> >
> >
> Police do it all the time with radar detectors here in the US.
> Virginia has a law that says receiving radar signals from police is
> illegal. They have a radar detector detector.
> You get the detector back if you go to trial. It is unlawfull to have
> it in use or within the drivers reach when the car is in motion, not
> possess it.
>

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On Sun, 2 May 2004, Rico wrote:
> In article <Pine.LNX.4.58.0404231708030.70@kd6lvw.ampr.org>, kd6lvw@kd6lvw.ampr.org wrote:
> >On Fri, 30 Apr 2004, bam Bino wrote:
> >> Please point me to software that will detect these war drivers. wireless G
> >
> >How do you expect to know when someone is LISTENING only? IDIOT.
>
> Actually there is radio detection equipment that can detect recievers. The
> tuned circuits in the reciever actually leak bits of RF. Granted it is very
> specialized equipment, but it does exist. Don't know if they still do it,
> but in the past that was one way the Brits knew who wasn't paying the TV
> tax, they'd send a truck through the hoods listening for that leakage.

Only for poorly constructed receivers with no shielding. The rest of that is a
false urban legend.

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On Mon, 03 May 2004 09:23:50 GMT, in alt.internet.wireless , "D. Stussy"
<kd6lvw@bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote:

>On Sun, 2 May 2004, Rico wrote:
>> In article <Pine.LNX.4.58.0404231708030.70@kd6lvw.ampr.org>, kd6lvw@kd6lvw.ampr.org wrote:
>> >On Fri, 30 Apr 2004, bam Bino wrote:
>> >> Please point me to software that will detect these war drivers. wireless G
>> >
>> >How do you expect to know when someone is LISTENING only? IDIOT.
>>
>> in the past that was one way the Brits knew who wasn't paying the TV
>> tax, they'd send a truck through the hoods listening for that leakage.
>
>Only for poorly constructed receivers with no shielding. The rest of that is a
>false urban legend.

Not entirely. MOST of the vans were dummies, and they simply knocked on the
doors of unlicensed houses through whose windows they could see the telly.
However if a genuine detector van parked outside the house, and pointed a
highly directional aerial directly at the TV, they could pick up the
secondard EM emissions from the coils. These days, they'd be as likely to
pick up a computer monitor of course.
And none of this will work for tiny well shielded recievers such as those
in WiFi units.

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