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November 29, 2012 7:54:35 PM

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November 29, 2012 8:04:18 PM

mbreslin1954 said:
I get an error when I click on the link.



Sorry... try again please. :p 
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November 29, 2012 8:09:12 PM

looks like a damn good deal for $799. Too bad you can't customize it in any otherwise I'd say maybe spring for a larger battery but hey for $799 you can upgrade the battery later if it doesn't last long enough for you
November 29, 2012 11:21:57 PM

Eh, not 1080p screen... always a con. I would definitely recommend HD 1080p screen. You'll thank me later :sarcastic: 
November 29, 2012 11:25:35 PM

thomasf94 said:
Eh, not 1080p screen... always a con. I would definitely recommend HD 1080p screen. You'll thank me later :sarcastic: 


Just curious, why 1080?

You have the sarcastic face, so maybe you are joking lol.

Is there any better laptop you would recommend for 800?
November 29, 2012 11:38:27 PM

lange said:
Just curious, why 1080?

You have the sarcastic face, so maybe you are joking lol.


Haha because 1080p is High Definition. so much better. and I was being sarcastic about you thanking me later, haha but in all seriousness, it is worth getting HD.



lange said:
Is there any better laptop you would recommend for 800?


Well I can't recommend a laptop when I don't know what you are planning on using it for, IE Gaming, School, Mainstream Entertainment, Etc.

What do you prefer? what are you going to be using the laptop for? is your budget under $801?

November 29, 2012 11:59:32 PM

thomasf94 said:
Haha because 1080p is High Definition. so much better. and I was being sarcastic about you thanking me later, haha but in all seriousness, it is worth getting HD.





Well I can't recommend a laptop when I don't know what you are planning on using it for, IE Gaming, School, Mainstream Entertainment, Etc.

What do you prefer? what are you going to be using the laptop for? is your budget under $801?


My budget is under 1000, some gaming and photoshop..

Maybe record some clips or edit videos when I am at campus or something.

Last thing is and I don't really need it, but I really like the blacklit colored keyboards. :p 
November 30, 2012 12:05:43 AM

lange said:
My budget is under 1000, some gaming and photoshop..

Maybe record some clips or edit videos when I am at campus or something.

Last thing is and I don't really need it, but I really like the blacklit colored keyboards. :p 


Haha, gotcha, what size screen? and what games are you planning on gaming with?
November 30, 2012 12:40:31 AM

thomasf94 said:
Haha, gotcha, what size screen? and what games are you planning on gaming with?


Minecraft, WOW, Diablo 3, Starcraft.
November 30, 2012 1:51:09 AM

You need to ask yourself this, do you care about having your games at max settings 90% of the time? Or are you willing to sacrifice quality for performance. With a 1080p resolution the GT 650m will not play modern games at maximum settings with a constant 30+fps except maybe COD games :p 

Going with the 768p screen you will be able to max out most new games and still get playable frames.


I am actually in the process of returning a 15.6" laptop i ordered from Tiger Direct that is a lenovo and im returning it because 1 its too damn bulky, and part of the reason is because it is a 15.6".

I'm planning on getting the Y400 which is the same thing as you listed except its a 14" screen and it only has the option of a 768p screen. I personally like to have my games maxed so it will work well for me plus its 14" so i can live with 768p. Also i since its a bit smaller than 15.6" itll weigh less and not be as huge which is my problem with the laptop im returning. I also hate having a numpad on a laptop because it just squeezes all the keys together and i can never hit the enter key i always hit the numpad -_-

So for me I will be going with the lovely Y400. I just hope its backlit too cause theres such little information on these 2 models and from what i can see its confirmed that Y500 has backlit but its all hazey with the Y400.

If you do decide to get the Y500 and a 1080p screen get the one for $950.

I dont understand why the one for $1050 says 3rd Generation Intel Core i7-3632QM Processor( 2.20GHz 1600MHz ) for the processor. First of all i dont know what 1600mhz means after 2.2gb cause thats 1.6 in ghz terms and if its true that its a 3632qm CPU well its weaker than the 3630qm by a bit.

Just to keep the conversation flowing what do you think about the Y400?
November 30, 2012 1:57:03 AM

Hate to double post, but to answer your subject question, its definitely a yes its worth it. I cant find anyone else selling such a nice powerful machine for the same price. Most laptops that come with the specs the Y400/500 have start at $999+ and to be able to get it for $800 is a great value and being that you can add in another 650m for SLI later on and your budget is $1000 you can save that $200 to add in SLI though i doubt it will cost $200 probable $100-150 but i could be wrong.
November 30, 2012 1:59:48 AM

Well first thing is I was really happy with the y500, until I found out that they screwed us.

In the commercial they get you all hyped up for the sli duo graphic card.

Then when I asked if the 800 dollar model came with duo graphics the online advisor lies to me and it doesn't come with it.

It even has a lower graphics card than the older y580 laptop, which makes no sense to me.

Also.. it has lower battery power.. again makes no dam sense to me. >:3

I was told it has lower battery power because the duel graphics card can't switch between each other, but even if that is true or not.. the 800 dollar model doesn't come with that so it shouldn't be a factor.

If the y580 looked as cool as the y500 then I would buy it right away. xD

On a side note, how did you like how the y500 looked? :o 

I haven't thought about the y400 because for some reason 13 inch screens always feel small when I use them. xD
November 30, 2012 2:08:22 AM

The Y400 is a 14 incher which i think is just right, not too big as a 15.6" and not too small like a 13".

The Y500 and 400 both look very similar except that i think the lid for the 500 is a type of metal and the 400 has a carbonfiber type mesh on it. Other than that the 500 and 400 are practically identical. Except the 400 has no numpad while the Y500 does. However, that is why im getting the Y400 is because it lacks the numpad which i hate :) 

The commercial was just a commercial. For $800 if it came with the SLI already there that would be a total steal, many people would be all over that deal. But still for $800 you get a great machine.

I wouldnt worry too much about the Y580 having a better graphics chip. The GTX 660m is only 10% faster which isnt that much. You can overclock the 650m to match the 660m if it matters that much to you.

It does have lower battery power because from my understanding it does not have the optimus technology that switches from dedicated to integrated graphics when youre doing less intensive tasks. I would imagine you can somehow enable the ability to switch to Intel HD4000 with the use of software but you would probably have to do it manually each time, although for 1-2 hours of extra battery life i would do it and not complain xD

EDIT: One other thing to mention is you are in the market for a gaming laptop and you cant expect the battery life to be spectacular because the hardware is powerful and in order for it to give you good performance it requires a power source. A battery can sustain it for so long until you have to plug it into the wall. I dont know what you plan to do with it but if you are getting a 15.6" i dont think you are planning to lug that around with you everywhere. If you are looking for portability i would consider some other options.
November 30, 2012 2:15:41 AM

BlazenDemon said:
The Y400 is a 14 incher which i think is just right, not too big as a 15.6" and not too small like a 13".

The Y500 and 400 both look very similar except that i think the lid for the 500 is a type of metal and the 400 has a carbonfiber type mesh on it. Other than that the 500 and 400 are practically identical. Except the 400 has no numpad while the Y500 does. However, that is why im getting the Y400 is because it lacks the numpad which i hate :) 

The commercial was just a commercial. For $800 if it came with the SLI already there that would be a total steal, many people would be all over that deal. But still for $800 you get a great machine.

I wouldnt worry too much about the Y580 having a better graphics chip. The GTX 660m is only 10% faster which isnt that much. You can overclock the 650m to match the 660m if it matters that much to you.

It does have lower battery power because from my understanding it does not have the optimus technology that switches from dedicated to integrated graphics when youre doing less intensive tasks. I would imagine you can somehow enable the ability to switch to Intel HD4000 with the use of software but you would probably have to do it manually each time, although for 1-2 hours of extra battery life i would do it and not complain xD

EDIT: One other thing to mention is you are in the market for a gaming laptop and you cant expect the battery life to be spectacular because the hardware is powerful and in order for it to give you good performance it requires a power source. A battery can sustain it for so long until you have to plug it into the wall. I dont know what you plan to do with it but if you are getting a 15.6" i dont think you are planning to lug that around with you everywhere. If you are looking for portability i would consider some other options.



How does one go about overclocking it? lol

I thought laptops overclocked themselves when it needs too.

14 inch.. hmmm and 70 bucks cheaper.

Too bad lenovo doesn't have any student discounts really... i think they offered like 20 bucks less for the y series laptops. :c Well 20 bucks is still 20 bucks.

http://www.dell.com/us/p/alienware-m14x-r2/pd.aspx

What do you think about that laptop? :c
November 30, 2012 2:28:05 AM

The laptop overclocks its processing power automatically its called "Turbo Boost" by intel but for graphics it only downclocks itself when you arent playing a game and when you are playing a game it goes up to the default factory clock. To increase that you would use a overclocking tool such as MSI Afterburner to increase that Default clock.

Lenovo may not have any discounts but if you go here http://www.fatwallet.com/Lenovo-coupons/code-654852/

you can get 5% cash back which would be $40 so you would only be paying $760 for the laptop not including tax.

Or if you use ebates you can get 3% cash back which is $24. I personally never used fatwallet i dont know how they work, but i have used Ebates before and i always got my cash back percentage.

That alienware is $1000. So if we compare the Y400 because its 14" same as that m14x here is what it look looks like


Alienware M14x
$1000
3rd Generation Intel® Core™ i5-3210M (3MB Cache, up to 3.1GHz w/ Turbo Boost 2.0)
Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64bit
14.0" High Def (720p/1366x768) with WLED backlight
6GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz
500GB 7,200 RPM SATA 3Gb/s
1 GB GDDR5 NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 650M with Optimus™

Y400
3rd Generation Intel® Core™ i5-3210M (3MB Cache, up to 3.1GHz w/ Turbo Boost 2.0)
Windows 8
14.0" High Def (720p/1366x768) with WLED backlight
8GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz
1TB 5400rpm HDD
2gb GDDR5 GT 650m
Price:$730

You save $270 with the lenovo, get a better graphics chip, 2gb more rap, 500gb more storage.

So what do i think about the alienware? I think its a ripoff.

Also if you go with the Y400 i recommend going for the one thats $800 because it has a much better processor. 4cores instead of 2core
November 30, 2012 2:33:21 AM

BlazenDemon said:
The laptop overclocks its processing power automatically its called "Turbo Boost" by intel but for graphics it only downclocks itself when you arent playing a game and when you are playing a game it goes up to the default factory clock. To increase that you would use a overclocking tool such as MSI Afterburner to increase that Default clock.

Lenovo may not have any discounts but if you go here http://www.fatwallet.com/Lenovo-coupons/code-654852/

you can get 5% cash back which would be $40 so you would only be paying $760 for the laptop not including tax.

Or if you use ebates you can get 3% cash back which is $24. I personally never used fatwallet i dont know how they work, but i have used Ebates before and i always got my cash back percentage.

That alienware is $1000. So if we compare the Y400 because its 14" same as that m14x here is what it look looks like


Alienware M14x
$1000
3rd Generation Intel® Core™ i5-3210M (3MB Cache, up to 3.1GHz w/ Turbo Boost 2.0)
Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64bit
14.0" High Def (720p/1366x768) with WLED backlight
6GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz
500GB 7,200 RPM SATA 3Gb/s
1 GB GDDR5 NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 650M with Optimus™

Y400
3rd Generation Intel® Core™ i5-3210M (3MB Cache, up to 3.1GHz w/ Turbo Boost 2.0)
Windows 8
14.0" High Def (720p/1366x768) with WLED backlight
8GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz
1TB 5400rpm HDD
2gb GDDR5 GT 650m
Price:$730

You save $270 with the lenovo, get a better graphics chip, 2gb more rap, 500gb more storage.

So what do i think about the alienware? I think its a ripoff.

Also if you go with the Y400 i recommend going for the one thats $800 because it has a much better processor. 4cores instead of 2core


Where was the quadcore instead of duocore? :o 

I didn't know that applied to lenovo laptops... ah I am such a noob. xD
November 30, 2012 2:38:07 AM

The i5 3210m is a dual core processor if you look it up you will see that it only has 2 cores. The i7 is a quad core processor with hyperthreading which gives it an additional 4 virtual cores that dont help with gaming but help with other things like renderings or encoding etc.

My sincere recommendation is to go with the Y400, you wont be disappointed, it has a red backlight, and its a powerful machine for a price tag of $800.

If 14" is too small for you then by all means go with the Y500.

Remember to get a model with the i7 3630qm not the i5 or the i7 3632qm The major difference between the 3630qm and 3632qm is the 3630 is 45W TDP and the 3632 is 35W TDP. You may get a little bit more battery out of the 3632 like 15 minutes? But the 3630qm is the more powerful chip because it has more power to work with.
November 30, 2012 2:53:16 AM

BlazenDemon said:
The i5 3210m is a dual core processor if you look it up you will see that it only has 2 cores. The i7 is a quad core processor with hyperthreading which gives it an additional 4 virtual cores that dont help with gaming but help with other things like renderings or encoding etc.

My sincere recommendation is to go with the Y400, you wont be disappointed, it has a red backlight, and its a powerful machine for a price tag of $800.

If 14" is too small for you then by all means go with the Y500.

Remember to get a model with the i7 3630qm not the i5 or the i7 3632qm The major difference between the 3630qm and 3632qm is the 3630 is 45W TDP and the 3632 is 35W TDP. You may get a little bit more battery out of the 3632 like 15 minutes? But the 3630qm is the more powerful chip because it has more power to work with.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stjxccdVidM

This video helped me decide, I just can't not get that larger screen. xD

Seems like the y400 he got didn't have backlit, so hmmm..

You say the y500 I should get the model that is 949 bucks right? :c

Is it worth spending another 149?

Hmmmm so many choices lol.
November 30, 2012 11:45:52 AM

Its worth it i would say you get a bluray drive, 1080p, and a quad core instead of a dual core
November 30, 2012 7:51:43 PM

BlazenDemon said:
Its worth it i would say you get a bluray drive, 1080p, and a quad core instead of a dual core



Hmm well they are both i7, so I think they are both quadcore? I don't see an i5 model.

So pretty much the difference is the 1080p, blueray, and the extra 16GB SSD.
a b D Laptop
November 30, 2012 9:47:32 PM

lange said:
Hmm well they are both i7, so I think they are both quadcore? I don't see an i5 model.

So pretty much the difference is the 1080p, blueray, and the extra 16GB SSD.


i7's in the mobile line-up are only quad core if they have a "QM" designation at the end, otherwise they are just very fast dual cores with hyperthreading and turbo boost.
November 30, 2012 9:53:51 PM

Tibbs01 said:
i7's in the mobile line-up are only quad core if they have a "QM" designation at the end, otherwise they are just very fast dual cores with hyperthreading and turbo boost.


Well if you click the link in the beginning they are both QM, right? :o 

So would you spend 150 extra for the 1080p and 16GB SSD?

If you would.. then would you even spend another 100 dollars for 16GB of memory isntead of 8?

Not sure if that even helps with anything.. also for the extra 100 it says 3rd Generation Intel Core i7-3632QM Processor( 2.20GHz 1600MHz ) instead of 3rd Generation Intel Core i7-3630QM Processor( 2.40GHz 6MB).

Not sure if thats actually better also lol...
December 3, 2012 1:06:35 AM

Sorry i was referring to the Y400 it has an i5 model which is a dual core. The Y500 has all quad cores but some models are 3632QM and the other is 3630qm. Go for the 3630qm the 3632 is a little bit slower so get the $950 model. Its not worth paying $100 more for a lesser CPU and 8gb more ram. You could probably upgrade to 16gb if you really want to for $50-75 by buying the ram modules yourself.

If you dont want or need the 1080p screen you can save yourself $150 and just get the $800 model. It is really up to you, but most people would recommend a FHD screen because the 768p screens usually have noticeably bad quality, however i never have really had any problems with my laptops that have been 768p
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