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On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:07:40 -0400, "Hello Garci" <sell@elections.com>
wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Anyone knows if Fido Phones are vulnerable to wiretapping or be taped by
>third party sources?
Any line can be tapped if there's an order for the hosting company to
allow it. All they have to do is make a tap at the central office on
the switch.
- -
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Why? Are you planning something illegal? Seriously, it is possible but not
very easy... not like the days before when Rogers was using a non-digital
network (TDMA) and you could easily easedrop on calls by purchasing a very
inexpensive scanner.
"Hello Garci" <sell@elections.com> wrote in message
news:LrBwe.1128$p5.162@nnrp.ca.mci.com!nnrp1.uunet.ca...
> Hi,
>
> Anyone knows if Fido Phones are vulnerable to wiretapping or be taped by
> third party sources?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Garci
>
>
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TDMA is digital.
"Harry Eugene Ly" <consumers-get-bad-service@big-f*-companies.com> wrote in
message newsyJwe.49156$sg7.1030910@weber.videotron.net...
> Why? Are you planning something illegal? Seriously, it is possible but not
> very easy... not like the days before when Rogers was using a non-digital
> network (TDMA) and you could easily easedrop on calls by purchasing a very
> inexpensive scanner.
>
>
> "Hello Garci" <sell@elections.com> wrote in message
> news:LrBwe.1128$p5.162@nnrp.ca.mci.com!nnrp1.uunet.ca...
>> Hi,
>>
>> Anyone knows if Fido Phones are vulnerable to wiretapping or be taped by
>> third party sources?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Garci
>>
>>
>
>
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Hello Garci,
Why do you want to know? Do you want to continue your cut conversation with
your phone pal, the dwarf?
Atty. Ong
"Hello Garci" <sell@elections.com> wrote in message
news:LrBwe.1128$p5.162@nnrp.ca.mci.com!nnrp1.uunet.ca...
> Hi,
>
> Anyone knows if Fido Phones are vulnerable to wiretapping or be taped by
> third party sources?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Garci
>
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Any old TV (pre mid 1980s) that goes up to UHF 83 can listen in on
analog cell phone calls.
In article <11c6v7femou3he7@corp.supernews.com>, lurker <lurker@this.ng> wrote:
>TDMA is digital.
>
>
>"Harry Eugene Ly" <consumers-get-bad-service@big-f*-companies.com> wrote in
>message newsyJwe.49156$sg7.1030910@weber.videotron.net...
>> Why? Are you planning something illegal? Seriously, it is possible but not
>> very easy... not like the days before when Rogers was using a non-digital
>> network (TDMA) and you could easily easedrop on calls by purchasing a very
>> inexpensive scanner.
>>
>>
>> "Hello Garci" <sell@elections.com> wrote in message
>> news:LrBwe.1128$p5.162@nnrp.ca.mci.com!nnrp1.uunet.ca...
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Anyone knows if Fido Phones are vulnerable to wiretapping or be taped by
>>> third party sources?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Garci
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 23:10:41 -0400, "Harry Eugene Ly"
<consumers-get-bad-service@big-f*-companies.com> wrote:
>Why? Are you planning something illegal? Seriously, it is possible but not
>very easy... not like the days before when Rogers was using a non-digital
>network (TDMA) and you could easily easedrop on calls by purchasing a very
>inexpensive scanner.
*Newsflash!* So called "TDMA" which you probably mean IS-136 *is* a
digital mobile standard. And just further for your information GSM
*is* TDMA also. The only mobile communications that you can
"easedrop" (look that one up in the dictionary!) on is analogue (AMPS
in North America.)
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No, I am not planning to do something illegal, I just want privacy. I have a
lot of secret inventions that I talk about in my phone and I still have to
patent them. Just being careful.
Thanks for your answers.
Garci
"Harry Eugene Ly" <consumers-get-bad-service@big-f*-companies.com> wrote in
message newsyJwe.49156$sg7.1030910@weber.videotron.net...
> Why? Are you planning something illegal? Seriously, it is possible but not
> very easy... not like the days before when Rogers was using a non-digital
> network (TDMA) and you could easily easedrop on calls by purchasing a very
> inexpensive scanner.
>
>
> "Hello Garci" <sell@elections.com> wrote in message
> news:LrBwe.1128$p5.162@nnrp.ca.mci.com!nnrp1.uunet.ca...
>> Hi,
>>
>> Anyone knows if Fido Phones are vulnerable to wiretapping or be taped by
>> third party sources?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Garci
>>
>>
>
>
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Hello Garci wrote:
> No, I am not planning to do something illegal, I just want privacy. I have a
> lot of secret inventions that I talk about in my phone and I still have to
> patent them. Just being careful.
>
> Thanks for your answers.
>
> Garci
>
> "Harry Eugene Ly" <consumers-get-bad-service@big-f*-companies.com> wrote in
> message newsyJwe.49156$sg7.1030910@weber.videotron.net...
> > Why? Are you planning something illegal? Seriously, it is possible but not
> > very easy... not like the days before when Rogers was using a non-digital
> > network (TDMA) and you could easily easedrop on calls by purchasing a very
> > inexpensive scanner.
> >
> >
> > "Hello Garci" <sell@elections.com> wrote in message
> > news:LrBwe.1128$p5.162@nnrp.ca.mci.com!nnrp1.uunet.ca...
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Anyone knows if Fido Phones are vulnerable to wiretapping or be taped by
> >> third party sources?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Garci
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
Tapping into GSM is possible (the method has been published), but
sufficiently difficult that probably only top-secret government
organizations do it. Commercial secrets are probably safe. But the
other posters are right that part of your call undoubtedly goes through
the land telephone network, where it is just as secure or insecure as
any other telephone call.
If you want better security, you could try Skype (VoIP). Skype-to-Skype
calls are encrypted with an algorithm which is probably secure against
all but the same top-secret government organizations mentioned above.
Skype-to-regular-telephone of course has the same vulnerability as
other phone calls when it gets into the regular analog network.
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Hello Garci wrote:
> No, I am not planning to do something illegal, I just want privacy. I have a
> lot of secret inventions that I talk about in my phone and I still have to
> patent them. Just being careful.
>
> Thanks for your answers.
>
> Garci
>
> "Harry Eugene Ly" <consumers-get-bad-service@big-f*-companies.com> wrote in
> message newsyJwe.49156$sg7.1030910@weber.videotron.net...
> > Why? Are you planning something illegal? Seriously, it is possible but not
> > very easy... not like the days before when Rogers was using a non-digital
> > network (TDMA) and you could easily easedrop on calls by purchasing a very
> > inexpensive scanner.
> >
> >
> > "Hello Garci" <sell@elections.com> wrote in message
> > news:LrBwe.1128$p5.162@nnrp.ca.mci.com!nnrp1.uunet.ca...
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Anyone knows if Fido Phones are vulnerable to wiretapping or be taped by
> >> third party sources?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Garci
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
Tapping into GSM is possible (the method has been published), but
sufficiently difficult that probably only top-secret government
organizations do it. Commercial secrets are probably safe. But the
other posters are right that part of your call undoubtedly goes through
the land telephone network, where it is just as secure or insecure as
any other telephone call.
If you want better security, you could try Skype (VoIP). Skype-to-Skype
calls are encrypted with an algorithm which is probably secure against
all but the same top-secret government organizations mentioned above.
Skype-to-regular-telephone of course has the same vulnerability as
other phone calls when it gets into the regular analog network.
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?... I don't get it
DK
"lurker" <lurker@this.ng> wrote in message
news:11c6vc8np9jqp60@corp.supernews.com...
> Hello Garci,
>
> Why do you want to know? Do you want to continue your cut conversation
> with your phone pal, the dwarf?
>
> Atty. Ong
>
Archived from groups: alt.cellular.fido (More info?)
Why do people always draw to conclusions that when people want some privacy
they automatically think there's something illegal going on. It could just
as well be legitimate business people who want to protect their trade
secrets or regular people who want to have a personal and private
conversation. They DO exist you know!
On a side note, TDMA *IS* digital and GSM is based on TDMA and CDMA which
are both digital standards. What you are mentionning are Analogue ( AMPS )
connections. You can find scanners that can listen to those frequencies.
DK
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 23:10:41 -0400, "Harry Eugene Ly"
<consumers-get-bad-service@big-f*-companies.com> wrote:
>Why? Are you planning something illegal? Seriously, it is possible but not
>very easy... not like the days before when Rogers was using a non-digital
>network (TDMA) and you could easily easedrop on calls by purchasing a very
>inexpensive scanner.
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Hi Lurker,
Huh???? This comment does not make sense.
RdR
"lurker" <lurker@this.ng> wrote in message
news:11c6vc8np9jqp60@corp.supernews.com...
> Hello Garci,
>
> Why do you want to know? Do you want to continue your cut conversation
with
> your phone pal, the dwarf?
>
> Atty. Ong
>
>
> "Hello Garci" <sell@elections.com> wrote in message
> news:LrBwe.1128$p5.162@nnrp.ca.mci.com!nnrp1.uunet.ca...
> > Hi,
> >
> > Anyone knows if Fido Phones are vulnerable to wiretapping or be taped by
> > third party sources?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Garci
> >
>
>
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That is interesting about Skype felixcct. So that means, skype goes
encrypted from point to point without going through a cebtral station
(assuming it is a skype to skype call)? If this is so, then this is really
more secure and harder to monitor even with expensive equipment.
Do you still have the link on how GSM is tapped? (Not that I want to tap
someone but more on being educated on how I can protect myself more from
being "tapped".
Thanks,
RdR
<felixcct@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1120161472.422784.303240@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
>
> Hello Garci wrote:
> > No, I am not planning to do something illegal, I just want privacy. I
have a
> > lot of secret inventions that I talk about in my phone and I still have
to
> > patent them. Just being careful.
> >
> > Thanks for your answers.
> >
> > Garci
> >
> > "Harry Eugene Ly" <consumers-get-bad-service@big-f*-companies.com> wrote
in
> > message newsyJwe.49156$sg7.1030910@weber.videotron.net...
> > > Why? Are you planning something illegal? Seriously, it is possible but
not
> > > very easy... not like the days before when Rogers was using a
non-digital
> > > network (TDMA) and you could easily easedrop on calls by purchasing a
very
> > > inexpensive scanner.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Hello Garci" <sell@elections.com> wrote in message
> > > news:LrBwe.1128$p5.162@nnrp.ca.mci.com!nnrp1.uunet.ca...
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> Anyone knows if Fido Phones are vulnerable to wiretapping or be taped
by
> > >> third party sources?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >>
> > >> Garci
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
>
> Tapping into GSM is possible (the method has been published), but
> sufficiently difficult that probably only top-secret government
> organizations do it. Commercial secrets are probably safe. But the
> other posters are right that part of your call undoubtedly goes through
> the land telephone network, where it is just as secure or insecure as
> any other telephone call.
>
> If you want better security, you could try Skype (VoIP). Skype-to-Skype
> calls are encrypted with an algorithm which is probably secure against
> all but the same top-secret government organizations mentioned above.
> Skype-to-regular-telephone of course has the same vulnerability as
> other phone calls when it gets into the regular analog network.
>
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DK wrote:
> On a side note, TDMA *IS* digital and GSM is based on TDMA and CDMA which
> are both digital standards. What you are mentionning are Analogue ( AMPS )
> connections. You can find scanners that can listen to those frequencies.
It is better to say that both TDMA and GSM and based on tdma air
interface philosophy, which si different from the cdma air interface
philosophy used by the propritary CDMA systems.
Note that G3 GSM uses a cdma air interface. (same philosophy as CDMA,
but the proprietary CDMA owner (Qualcomm) made sure that its 3G CDMA
protocol was incompatible with the standard 3G GSM (UMTS)
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Thanks for the correction about TDMA and AMPS. My mistake. I just know that
at one point, it was possible to easedrop onto Rogers with a scanner.
"DK" <sendmeskata@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:W__we.15366$IY5.332218@weber.videotron.net...
> Why do people always draw to conclusions that when people want some
privacy
> they automatically think there's something illegal going on. It could just
> as well be legitimate business people who want to protect their trade
> secrets or regular people who want to have a personal and private
> conversation. They DO exist you know!
>
> On a side note, TDMA *IS* digital and GSM is based on TDMA and CDMA which
> are both digital standards. What you are mentionning are Analogue ( AMPS )
> connections. You can find scanners that can listen to those frequencies.
>
> DK
>
> On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 23:10:41 -0400, "Harry Eugene Ly"
> <consumers-get-bad-service@big-f*-companies.com> wrote:
>
> >Why? Are you planning something illegal? Seriously, it is possible but
not
> >very easy... not like the days before when Rogers was using a non-digital
> >network (TDMA) and you could easily easedrop on calls by purchasing a
very
> >inexpensive scanner.
>
>
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Thanks for the correction about TDMA and AMPS. My mistake. I just know that
at one point, it was possible to easedrop onto Rogers with a scanner.
"Joseph" <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com> wrote in message
newse38c1hbph201so4o412dceldjidm4b75h@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 23:10:41 -0400, "Harry Eugene Ly"
> <consumers-get-bad-service@big-f*-companies.com> wrote:
>
> >Why? Are you planning something illegal? Seriously, it is possible but
not
> >very easy... not like the days before when Rogers was using a non-digital
> >network (TDMA) and you could easily easedrop on calls by purchasing a
very
> >inexpensive scanner.
>
> *Newsflash!* So called "TDMA" which you probably mean IS-136 *is* a
> digital mobile standard. And just further for your information GSM
> *is* TDMA also. The only mobile communications that you can
> "easedrop" (look that one up in the dictionary!) on is analogue (AMPS
> in North America.)
>
> - -
>
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LOL! I think the original poster got it!
DK wrote:
> ?... I don't get it
>
> DK
>
>
> "lurker" <lurker@this.ng> wrote in message
> news:11c6vc8np9jqp60@corp.supernews.com...
> > Hello Garci,
> >
> > Why do you want to know? Do you want to continue your cut conversation
> > with your phone pal, the dwarf?
> >
> > Atty. Ong
> >
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It does to Hello Garci. :-)
RdR wrote:
> Hi Lurker,
>
> Huh???? This comment does not make sense.
>
> RdR
>
> "lurker" <lurker@this.ng> wrote in message
> news:11c6vc8np9jqp60@corp.supernews.com...
> > Hello Garci,
> >
> > Why do you want to know? Do you want to continue your cut conversation
> with
> > your phone pal, the dwarf?
> >
> > Atty. Ong
> >
> >
> > "Hello Garci" <sell@elections.com> wrote in message
> > news:LrBwe.1128$p5.162@nnrp.ca.mci.com!nnrp1.uunet.ca...
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Anyone knows if Fido Phones are vu
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