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August 31, 2009 8:58:13 PM

Apple no.1 in customer satisfaction?

Well you can't argue Macs are pretty, and have a pretty OS, but I don't think Apple customers can really appreciate a nice hand build rig with cherry picked components... (because I don't think they can build one).

August 31, 2009 9:00:48 PM

I'm not a fan of Apple but I will admit, I do like watching the commercials.
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August 31, 2009 9:04:18 PM

Number 1 in customer satisfaction! omg what does pc have???

Number 1 in actual number of customers.
August 31, 2009 9:08:59 PM

The Mac ads are entertaining, but they don't say anything about actual performance... the message is that PCs suck. How about some positive advertising, Apple?
August 31, 2009 9:11:15 PM

Total crap!!!!
August 31, 2009 9:12:32 PM

hahaha....liars...
apple suck for all i know...PC is the best when considering both performance and price

August 31, 2009 9:14:55 PM

So, MAC is a PC after all!

But a PC at a MAC price...
August 31, 2009 9:16:31 PM

Last I checked, I believe Asus had better reliability and customer support than Apple did, although I may be wrong.

In any case, these ads are just getting sad, I would have liked it better if it went..

R AS IN, ROBERT LOGGIA
O AS IN, OH M GOD, IT'S ROBERT LOGGIA
B AS IN, BY GOD, IT'S ROBERT LOGGIA
E AS IN, EVERYBODY LOOK, IT'S ROBERT LOGGIA
R AS IN, ROBERT LOGGIA
T AS IN, TIM LOOK OVER THERE, IT'S ROBERT LOGGIA
....
August 31, 2009 9:21:42 PM

apple is stupid and so are their ad campaigns. macs are great if you're a noob and/or dont care about being able to do much besides type poetry and use photoshop.

PCs aren't just manufactured by one company, and the best ones, as a previous commenter said, are custom-made to suit the needs of the user. Not sure how they can compare customer service of one company (apple) against PCs in general, sounds like an apples to oranges comparison if i've ever heard one. People that complain about PCs (especially the type of complaints these ads have always focused on) are idiots who dont know how to properly maintain a system or who don't want to put the slight effort into learning. They'd rather just throw more money at apple and be handed a dumbed-down machine.
August 31, 2009 9:24:36 PM

Yes you can hand pick your compnents with a PC, but you also get lots of viruses and Malware which i haven't seen yet on my Imac. So far mac is my champion.

August 31, 2009 9:32:46 PM

IzzyCraftNumber 1 in customer satisfaction! omg what does pc have???Number 1 in actual number of customers.

Lol! Well played sir, well played. +1000
August 31, 2009 9:32:59 PM

"..you also get lots of viruses and Malware" this would fall under the idiot complaints category i previously mentioned. I have 1 program that protects me from both of those and also has a full featured firewall... it automatically updates and uses next to no system resources. I havent had a virus on any of my PCs in over a decade.
August 31, 2009 9:37:19 PM

Hakesterman. I haven't had a virus, or even mal/spyware for that matter, in years. A little common sense and Firefox w/ NoScript defeats the 40% premium you pay for the "virus-less OS".

Another thing... since when do all PCs run Windows?!
August 31, 2009 10:00:28 PM

Apple is #1 in customer satisfaction. In other news, "Apple Blames Users for Exploding iPhones".
August 31, 2009 10:00:37 PM

Let me break it down here.
Apple pro = pretty, easy to use
Apple con = expensive, hard to upgrade
PC pro = cheap, easy to upgrade
PC con = not necessarily pretty (could be), not so easy to use

Hey look, it's apple vs orange. Pick one and you will be healthy. Why all the fights? Instead of fighting, you could use your time and money to make the world a better place.
August 31, 2009 10:03:09 PM

hakestermanYes you can hand pick your compnents with a PC, but you also get lots of viruses and Malware which i haven't seen yet on my Imac. So far mac is my champion.

I can hand pick my components and I don't get malware. It runs most of the software on the market, and plays games great. Yes, it runs windows without any problems at all, and I didn't pay anything near what you paid for your iMac. My PC is just as safe as your iMac (as long as I am the one using it) and I can do more things on it.
August 31, 2009 10:07:42 PM

Though I find the Mac commercials to be entertaining, I do tire of the fact that Apple throws some aggressive sales pitch but never supports it with any factual information.

The latest version I've seen is a woman standing between PC & Mac. The woman is told that PCs get thousands of viruses, and assumes that Macs don't ever have a single problem. Apple simply tries to use fear tactics to cause people to buy their product.

There's no factual information presented, no effort to show why Mac could actually have any real advantage of a Windows based PC. It's the kind of sales tactic used by pushy, uneducated, defensive, ignorant sales people in many industries.

Any good salesman knows that you win over customers by REFUSING to bash you competition, and simply telling them what's good about your own product. That's how you win trust and customers.

Apple can fall off the face of the earth as far as I'm concerned. Their over-priced, under performing, proprietary products and advertising makes me angry.
August 31, 2009 10:19:24 PM

*sigh*

Okay, so which PC company or companies did Apple compare themselves to? This is the problem with trying to compare Apple computers (a specific corporate entity with a well defined product line tightly under its control) and PC computers (consisting of dozens of corporate entities producing a series of products compatible with one another that often rely on standards organizations to provide guidelines on how to work together).
August 31, 2009 10:35:08 PM

ok here it is the REAL commercial:
Hi im a mac
and im a pc.
so mac, what do you do?
well pc, i go online, do word spreadsheets and edit music/videos
what do you do pc:
Oh the same thing but i can also play games, customize my parts and add whatever shit to make myself looks sweet.
and can be built under 700 dollars.
End of story
True Fact: a near top of the line pc can be built for the same price as the lowest end macbook
August 31, 2009 10:35:10 PM

zzz... get a new ad campaign
August 31, 2009 10:53:53 PM

If you think about it apple hasnt done anything in years to wow the audience. i dare any one of you to go to your local high school and mention the name "apple" the only thing most dumb teens will say back is "oh ipod" because thats the one product apple was able to manufacture that got everyone's attention. out of those kids who say "ipod" i guarantee like 80% will say they have a pc.
ALSO the whole thing of "PC's Always get thousands of viruses" is COMPLETELY BIASED by mac fanboys because last time i checked macs get viruses too. why else would the new OS have a malware remover?
ALSO the mac commercial tells ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about why macs are better, because they have nothing to say to the audience that they havent heard before.
Also they say to be the most long lasting/ reliable. i saw that ASUS was most reliable last time so idk wtf they talking about. but if you only used your new pc to go online on facebook like most mac users and listen to itunes and use microsoft word it would last 5 years also. or more formely known as business computers that are still around from 2001 at my job. and they work fine.
FINAL STATEMENT:
The word of Pc is growing rapidly while macis left at the end of the line. new hardwate is announced often and there is always something new to try From esate flashdrives to SSD's to even quad SLI. Mac users can only look forward to new ipods that has been the same shitty resell year after year with no major features. the only 2 ipods that are different from each other are the first one ever made and the ipod touch. I have no grudge against mac users only when these stupid commercials come on and people rant on how Pc's suck. Last time i checked my custom built pc with 2 blue neon lights and 2x GTX 295's that i built for a friend looked 4x as good as an imac. Now if you will excuse me mac i have to go play crysis, have fun trying to load mario!
August 31, 2009 11:05:06 PM

Dell or HP should start a Unix bashing campaing...
August 31, 2009 11:13:44 PM

MAC is just buying a crappy PC with a brand name price with a crap operating system.
August 31, 2009 11:15:29 PM

this commercial doesn't actually make sense. They're saying that apple is number 1 in customer whatever (which is false since ASUS is number 1 anyway), but they're comparing apple to pc; a company to a type of computer (just that in itself is false. We've all argued the macs are actually pc's too point). This is basically a cheap shot at all the pc OEMs, even though it's main point isn't even true.
August 31, 2009 11:16:31 PM

jazzmainI'm not a fan of Apple but I will admit, I do like watching the commercials.

I'm a PC lover too, and I totally agree with you.
August 31, 2009 11:21:26 PM

Intersting but check out this - wine - the study shows that the more people pay for a bottle of wine the greater their percieved satification with the product - even if it is the same wine. Not to hard to expend this to computers. The more people pay for them the higher the percieved quality and hence customer satisfaction. A lesson in how psycology studies are always skewed by the chosen cohort - in this case only Apple purchasers can comment on Apple customer satisfaction.

As a side note if there are any spelling / grammar issues with this post then put it down to the bottle of chardonnay I just drank, price $6.

It was OK...

on another note - what the hell is wrong with IE8????? I just had to download and instal firefox to get the insert link and 'subit my comment' buttons wroking.

'course, this could just be the wine....
August 31, 2009 11:46:31 PM

stuart72Intersting but check out this - wine - the study shows that the more people pay for a bottle of wine the greater their percieved satification with the product - even if it is the same wine. Not to hard to expend this to computers. The more people pay for them the higher the percieved quality and hence customer satisfaction.


And what's more, they use these commercials to do everything they can to help their Mac customers feel like they have a superior product, and invite new users to buy the new product and be willing to spend the extra. It's so much about perception. I've said this before and I'll say it again. I don't actually believe that Apple wants to see big growth in market share for their computers - they want people who will buy them to be willing to pay extra so they maximize margin per product. It's foolhardy to assume that Apple wants to surge past that 5% market share they have out there, even if they act like they want to grow like that.

To grow seriously would require serious drops in price, and I really doubt Apple is gonna play that way.
August 31, 2009 11:46:46 PM

I worry a lot that people believe these commercials. Espacialy the part about not having viruses.
September 1, 2009 12:13:30 AM

snotlingDell or HP should start a Unix bashing campaing...


Dell installs Ubuntu on several of it's notebooks and netbooks. That wouldn't work very well.
September 1, 2009 1:02:12 AM

Some OSs are more painful in the end, than others.

See Here

September 1, 2009 1:37:07 AM

These shit disturber adds will never end til all their products start blowing up in people's hands (wouldn't be to surprised either) and blaming the customers for whatever idiotic reasons (using it outside in warm weather?) they can come up with.

Id love to see a Windows add showing off their product, with and an ipod touch blowing up on a nearby desk, and having the mac guy slowly back away from his mac book in tremendous fear.
September 1, 2009 1:52:38 AM

YOU RETARDS HAVE BEEN SUCKED INTOAPPLE MARKETING SCHEME.

PC = PERSONAL COMPUTER

MAC = PC WITH APPLE OS

A PC IS NOT A MICROSOFT OS

I RAGEEEEE @ YOU RETARDED PEOPLE

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUU
September 1, 2009 2:45:28 AM

How can PC HAVE customer satisfaction??? Wouldn't that be up to the makers of the PC, unless their talking about Microsoft.
Well, yeah, Microsoft probably has worse Customer Satisfaction, most likely due to the fact that they have TWICE the install base, and all the people who actually NEED help for Macs just can't figure out where the 'OK' button is. Stupid ads.
September 1, 2009 2:51:11 AM

out there somewhere, i can hear the millions of mac zealots sacrificing a virgin to brother jobs right now... ~_~
September 1, 2009 2:54:41 AM

Hah, funny. Still, until Mac opens up (let Phystar build the darn computers) they will remain a niche.
September 1, 2009 4:21:19 AM

Fanboys amuse me because they're so stupid and uneducated, it makes me feel superior by comparison.
September 1, 2009 4:30:34 AM

hakestermanYes you can hand pick your compnents with a PC, but you also get lots of viruses and Malware which i haven't seen yet on my Imac. So far mac is my champion.


LMAO.

I have been using "OMFG IM SO GONNA GET VIRUS/MALWARE" PC with Windows for 16 years and hmm, I never got a virus. Hmm, yeah, I DONT EVEN USE ANTI-VIRUS! ROFL !

Its all about "common" sense. If you're stupid enough to click those "THIS IS TICKET NUMBER 1337 and you just won 100,000 dollars!", you deserves what you will be getting.

Your post shows that you're nothing but a moron. Next time if you want to say something, please just stfu. Thanks.
September 1, 2009 4:34:17 AM

I have been building my OWN COMPUTER for the last 13 years. so yeah. Im pretty happy about my purchase. I dont see PC world count those in.

and for the record, whoever still reads PC world shouldn't even own a computer at all.

and its pretty funny that Mac still act like they're any different than a PC. Mac IS A PC Mr. hakesterman dumb fuxk. rofl.

I find these fuxking dumb "OMG IM SO DIFFERENT 1337 ABOVE U PC GUYS" morons like Mr. Hakesterman funny.
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September 1, 2009 6:22:54 AM

Wow. Such closemindedness.

September 1, 2009 6:30:23 AM

fuserApple is #1 in customer satisfaction. In other news, "Apple Blames Users for Exploding iPhones".


Actual LOL here... people are sleeping in my house, thanks a lot...
September 1, 2009 8:58:26 AM

Someone should make a parody where the PC was an ASUS PC. Let's face it ASUS has computers that can destroy every single advantage a Mac can be said to have.
September 1, 2009 10:27:53 AM

Ive got a Mac for a laptop and a sweet desktop for gaming... problem solved.

Although I payed my ass off to have both, I couldn't be happier. I know a bit about both systems.

Everyone here seems to be hating on Macs, and quite hard too... Why? It kinda says something...
September 1, 2009 11:03:47 AM

The reason why the customer satisfaction is high, at least in their forum responses is that apple keeps deleting forum threads about customer complaints, Toms has posted a multitude of articles about this various fact over the last several years. Nothing like sticking your head in the sand muttering, "the earth is flat".
September 1, 2009 12:16:16 PM

CryogenicApple no.1 in customer satisfaction? Well you can't argue Macs are pretty, and have a pretty OS, but I don't think Apple customers can really appreciate a nice hand build rig with cherry picked components... (because I don't think they can build one).

Really? You know that for a fact? Cause my custom built gaming rig at home would beg to differ. It looks great sitting next to my iMac. How about taking your stupid, and quite frankly, old and worn out diggs at Apple people somewhere else.
September 1, 2009 12:45:56 PM

TeddersReally? You know that for a fact? Cause my custom built gaming rig at home would beg to differ. It looks great sitting next to my iMac. How about taking your stupid, and quite frankly, old and worn out diggs at Apple people somewhere else.


I would have to agree with Tedders, I love my MacBook, I also love my custom gaming rig sitting next to it. In fact I know many people in the IT field that have a Mac and like it, its not because I am uneducated, but because I don't embrace a singular OS as the be all end all of computing.
September 1, 2009 12:58:23 PM

I think all of these ads are stupid, and misleading. especially the windows vista ones.... most people have been using windows for years, and if they're unable to comprehend the slight changes in vista.... you surely shouldn't recommend having them get a mac... or linux.

But hey... if you want to spend 2,3,4,5 times as much on a mac and get nothing in return aside from feeling cool that you own a mac, go nuts. I'd rather have a more powerful computer that costs alot less and know that I'm not dumb enough to waste a ton of money on a mac.
September 1, 2009 1:00:41 PM

The mac Equivilant to the Dell Precision I'm setting up right now that I got for $700 would be like... $6000 easily.
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