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July 13, 2005 4:59:40 AM

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I understand that if I install an OEM version it will be a new installation
(not an upgrade) and all data files and programs will be wiped clean as part
of the installation (step one is formatting the hard drive). I'm okay with
that, because I have files on other machines and reinstall any programs that
I need.

My question is reference to drivers being deleted and needing to be
reinstalled. I'm not as familiar on the driver issue. Does this mean that
most of the peripherals I currently have under Win2000 will not work with
the initial installation of XP and I'll have to seek out drivers for these
items (wireless NIC, dvd-rom, cd-rw, second HD?

If this is the case, any tips on how to prepare to reinstall these drivers?
I don't know that I would be able to find all of the original disc media
that came with the peripherals to install from the disc (some predate XP, so
it would probably be moot anyway).

Thanks
Anonymous
July 13, 2005 4:59:41 AM

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Corey wrote:
> I understand that if I install an OEM version it will be a new
> installation (not an upgrade) and all data files and programs will be
> wiped clean as part of the installation (step one is formatting the
> hard drive). I'm okay with that, because I have files on other
> machines and reinstall any programs that I need.
>
> My question is reference to drivers being deleted and needing to be
> reinstalled. I'm not as familiar on the driver issue. Does this
> mean that most of the peripherals I currently have under Win2000 will
> not work with the initial installation of XP and I'll have to seek
> out drivers for these items (wireless NIC, dvd-rom, cd-rw, second HD?

Maybe - depends on how old your items are - some drivers may be included for
some products in the install. Be safe though.. Download and burn to CD the
XP drivers from the manufacturer's web page before you reinstall.

> If this is the case, any tips on how to prepare to reinstall these
> drivers? I don't know that I would be able to find all of the
> original disc media that came with the peripherals to install from
> the disc (some predate XP, so it would probably be moot anyway).

See above.

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Anonymous
July 13, 2005 4:59:41 AM

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If you are adding XP to an older computer that is a brand name like HP,
DELL..etc, know this, they come with a setup disk for only that machine and
it's original hardware including the chipset on the motherboard. XP will not
Include an INF file for the chipset on OEM boards that a particular brand
name company might have used in their model #xxxx and there are differences.
Upgrading is the safest way for these types and you will still need to check
for compatibility issues with existing hardware. So, if you upgrade, the
chipset drivers are already installed. if you start from scratch there not,
you will need those drivers so that all other hardware and software, that
need to communicate through the chipset, can properly and efficiently do so.

j

"Corey" wrote:

> I understand that if I install an OEM version it will be a new installation
> (not an upgrade) and all data files and programs will be wiped clean as part
> of the installation (step one is formatting the hard drive). I'm okay with
> that, because I have files on other machines and reinstall any programs that
> I need.
>
> My question is reference to drivers being deleted and needing to be
> reinstalled. I'm not as familiar on the driver issue. Does this mean that
> most of the peripherals I currently have under Win2000 will not work with
> the initial installation of XP and I'll have to seek out drivers for these
> items (wireless NIC, dvd-rom, cd-rw, second HD?
>
> If this is the case, any tips on how to prepare to reinstall these drivers?
> I don't know that I would be able to find all of the original disc media
> that came with the peripherals to install from the disc (some predate XP, so
> it would probably be moot anyway).
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
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Anonymous
July 13, 2005 1:57:25 PM

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On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 00:59:40 GMT, "Corey" <corey@myhouse.com> wrote:

>I understand that if I install an OEM version it will be a new installation
>(not an upgrade) and all data files and programs will be wiped clean as part
>of the installation (step one is formatting the hard drive). I'm okay with
>that, because I have files on other machines and reinstall any programs that
>I need.
>
>My question is reference to drivers being deleted and needing to be
>reinstalled. I'm not as familiar on the driver issue. Does this mean that
>most of the peripherals I currently have under Win2000 will not work with
>the initial installation of XP and I'll have to seek out drivers for these
>items (wireless NIC, dvd-rom, cd-rw, second HD?

Windows XP OEM (just-out-of-the packaging) will work with many
devices' drivers, if the drivers are specific to Windows 2000 at the
very minimum. However, the devices will work better with XP if they
have XP-specific drivers.

>If this is the case, any tips on how to prepare to reinstall these drivers?

1) Make an empty folder named "XP Drivers"
2) Make a written list of the model numbers and names of each of your
devices. It would be very helpful if each device's serial number were
also available on that list.
3) Find out the web pages of each device's manufacturer and write them
down, or add them to your Favorites.
4) One-by-one, go to each device's manufacturer's website and download
the latest XP driver for the device's Serial Number, Model Number, or
Name.
5) Save each device's driver/software in a temporary folder, one named
for the manufacturer. In the end, you should have several new
folders, each named as the manufacturer of a device or devices,
containing either the newest XP driver for that device, or at least
the latest Windows 2000 driver/software.

Hopefully, you will have at least a CD writer in your Windows 2000
system.

6) Create a folder named "XP Drivers" on a new blank CDR disc (or CDRW
disc) and Copy or Move each manufacturers' folder into the
newly-created folder named "XP Drivers".

>I don't know that I would be able to find all of the original disc media
>that came with the peripherals to install from the disc (some predate XP, so
>it would probably be moot anyway).

Have all the remaining discs you can find available. You will most
probably not need the Windows 2000 drivers (and definitely won't need
the Windows 98 drivers), but it is good to have them when possible.

It goes without saying that Windows XP must be installed before these
drivers and their accompanying software, so prepare the new HD using
the tools provided by the XP OEM installation program, then install XP
on the partition of your choice. Don't forget that the XP installer
will place the XP boot files on the boot partition(C:) .

7) One-by-one, execute the installation programs for the individual
drivers as per the instructions you received on the manufacturer's
website. Sometimes, this will entail creating folders on the System
Disk, so prepare to give them descriptive names.

If you follow my instructions, you should have few problems getting
your devices to work.

*** NOTE *** What to do if my device's manufacturer website has no
driver for Windows XP or Windows 2000.

In this case, you will be pretty much SOL (few Windows 98 drivers work
with XP, and those that do do not work well.)

If all you have are Windows 95/MSDOS drivers, you will be SOL, because
few (if any) of these drivers work with Windows XP.

In this case, you will most probably have to purchase a newer or
different device which DOES have a native driver for XP or Windows
2000 (or get a Windows XP or 2000 driver from the manufacturer's
website).

If you choose to buy newer or different devices, you will receive a
CDR containing the driver and accompanying software. If the CDR does
not contain an XP driver, the driver is probably on the manufacturer's
website.



>Thanks
>

Donald L McDaniel
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July 13, 2005 4:17:01 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support (More info?)

This is an older Dell (maybe 5 year old machine) with Windows2000 as the
O/S. Can I upgrade Win2K to XP? I thought when I looked at the O/S's that
could upgrade to XP, 2000 wasn't listed.




"Jaymon" <Jaymon@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1D9E3874-5B6C-4A09-8B7F-8F7775AD47AC@microsoft.com...
> If you are adding XP to an older computer that is a brand name like HP,
> DELL..etc, know this, they come with a setup disk for only that machine
> and
> it's original hardware including the chipset on the motherboard. XP will
> not
> Include an INF file for the chipset on OEM boards that a particular brand
> name company might have used in their model #xxxx and there are
> differences.
> Upgrading is the safest way for these types and you will still need to
> check
> for compatibility issues with existing hardware. So, if you upgrade, the
> chipset drivers are already installed. if you start from scratch there
> not,
> you will need those drivers so that all other hardware and software, that
> need to communicate through the chipset, can properly and efficiently do
> so.
>
> j
>
> "Corey" wrote:
>
>> I understand that if I install an OEM version it will be a new
>> installation
>> (not an upgrade) and all data files and programs will be wiped clean as
>> part
>> of the installation (step one is formatting the hard drive). I'm okay
>> with
>> that, because I have files on other machines and reinstall any programs
>> that
>> I need.
>>
>> My question is reference to drivers being deleted and needing to be
>> reinstalled. I'm not as familiar on the driver issue. Does this mean
>> that
>> most of the peripherals I currently have under Win2000 will not work with
>> the initial installation of XP and I'll have to seek out drivers for
>> these
>> items (wireless NIC, dvd-rom, cd-rw, second HD?
>>
>> If this is the case, any tips on how to prepare to reinstall these
>> drivers?
>> I don't know that I would be able to find all of the original disc media
>> that came with the peripherals to install from the disc (some predate XP,
>> so
>> it would probably be moot anyway).
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
Anonymous
July 13, 2005 4:17:02 PM

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Corey wrote:
> This is an older Dell (maybe 5 year old machine) with Windows2000 as
> the O/S. Can I upgrade Win2K to XP? I thought when I looked at the
> O/S's that could upgrade to XP, 2000 wasn't listed.

Have you even ran the Upgrade Advisor?
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307726

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MS-MVP
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Anonymous
July 13, 2005 5:47:04 PM

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The upgrade I used was pre sp1 and on my retail box it says Windows 2000 Pro
can be upgraded.

I upgraded from 98se and chose the option to place a clean copy of XP pro on
the HD instead of upgrading over 98se, this was ok because I had a new
motherboard that came with a setup disk, that included the INF file for the
chipset.

The best thing to do is to contact Dell and ask them if they would recommend
upgrading to XP on your model.

If you feel like the challenge is to great or risky, just keep 2000 on that
system.
I have an old HP that I use with 98se, it is limited but works fine.

Another option would be to build your own or by a less expensive Dell with
XP preinstalled. If it comes with XP Home you should be able to upgrade it to
XP Pro with the XP setup program, by reinstalling over an existing XP
installation, this option has it's risks too. hopefully you are able to
recover enough of your old settings so you can retrieve your data files.

j;-)

"Corey" wrote:

> This is an older Dell (maybe 5 year old machine) with Windows2000 as the
> O/S. Can I upgrade Win2K to XP? I thought when I looked at the O/S's that
> could upgrade to XP, 2000 wasn't listed.
>
>
>
>
> "Jaymon" <Jaymon@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:1D9E3874-5B6C-4A09-8B7F-8F7775AD47AC@microsoft.com...
> > If you are adding XP to an older computer that is a brand name like HP,
> > DELL..etc, know this, they come with a setup disk for only that machine
> > and
> > it's original hardware including the chipset on the motherboard. XP will
> > not
> > Include an INF file for the chipset on OEM boards that a particular brand
> > name company might have used in their model #xxxx and there are
> > differences.
> > Upgrading is the safest way for these types and you will still need to
> > check
> > for compatibility issues with existing hardware. So, if you upgrade, the
> > chipset drivers are already installed. if you start from scratch there
> > not,
> > you will need those drivers so that all other hardware and software, that
> > need to communicate through the chipset, can properly and efficiently do
> > so.
> >
> > j
> >
> > "Corey" wrote:
> >
> >> I understand that if I install an OEM version it will be a new
> >> installation
> >> (not an upgrade) and all data files and programs will be wiped clean as
> >> part
> >> of the installation (step one is formatting the hard drive). I'm okay
> >> with
> >> that, because I have files on other machines and reinstall any programs
> >> that
> >> I need.
> >>
> >> My question is reference to drivers being deleted and needing to be
> >> reinstalled. I'm not as familiar on the driver issue. Does this mean
> >> that
> >> most of the peripherals I currently have under Win2000 will not work with
> >> the initial installation of XP and I'll have to seek out drivers for
> >> these
> >> items (wireless NIC, dvd-rom, cd-rw, second HD?
> >>
> >> If this is the case, any tips on how to prepare to reinstall these
> >> drivers?
> >> I don't know that I would be able to find all of the original disc media
> >> that came with the peripherals to install from the disc (some predate XP,
> >> so
> >> it would probably be moot anyway).
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
!