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Blizzard: Battle.net Won't Be Another Steam

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August 31, 2009 10:04:51 PM

"Blizzard is still trying to figure out how to leech money from you wallet via Battle.net."

you -> your
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August 31, 2009 10:41:03 PM

How is this going to be good for gamers in the long term again?

Oh yeah, but asking gamers to pay money for user generated content...

Remember the day when you could download user created maps for games like Medal of Honor? Some of the user generated maps were a ton more fun than the stock fare.

It seems like so many games these days are being made in such a way that user generated content is become less and less available. :(  :( 
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August 31, 2009 10:42:09 PM

jerreece\Oh yeah, but asking gamers to pay money for user generated content...\


but = by

We need an edit function.
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August 31, 2009 10:58:37 PM

Battle.net is NOT going to be another Steam because last time I checked, I could play my HalfLife mods over LAN.
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August 31, 2009 11:13:00 PM

Blizzard used to be my favorite game company but ever since WoW its all about money
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August 31, 2009 11:14:33 PM

ssalim"Blizzard is still trying to figure out how to leech money from you wallet via Battle.net."you -> your

sorry all i see is money from my wallet everything before that doesn't matter.
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August 31, 2009 11:31:19 PM

points is RETARTED! its just a way to get us to buy more, cause we always have points left over. I think its a good idea that they only support their games, rather than trying to organise all the 3rd parties to use it properly. as long as its like steam in EVERY OTHER way, ill be fine, most notably, no STUPID POINTS SYSTEM!
"would you like to buy some Itchy&Scratchy Money? its like real money but... fun!" "ok"..... *we don't except itchy Money* *no itchy Money* *cash only*....
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August 31, 2009 11:39:26 PM

I like the idea of the content developers getting paid! That'll be me :) 
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August 31, 2009 11:42:55 PM

Ya paying for bullshit points is the most retarded stuff ive ever seen for gaming...it cheapens the experince and just makes...rich kids etc have an edge and does nothing to encourage skill...just spending more moneys.
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August 31, 2009 11:50:29 PM

I guess it was gonna come down to this eventually, we all knew it, but they are getting close to the last straw tho, just wait, battle.net will become a paid service by force. Just think about it, it makes sense, no LAN support on upcoming games, so that means you have to go to battle.net and if you don't pay you're out of luck. But the great thing about the internet is that there will always be "private" servers to link to.
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September 1, 2009 12:11:37 AM

I think that once Blizzard got a taste of the money it could make off of people who pay every month to play WoW, they've been searching for another method to extend that to all their games ever since.

This is the beginning of it.
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September 1, 2009 1:15:56 AM

I dont like blizzard anymore.. sorry i just felt like saying it out loud...

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September 1, 2009 2:34:05 AM

People still don't believe Blizzard is Activision's cashcow... Sigh.

Also, what happens if person A made popular map X in SC1, but user B remakes it for SC2 and makes money?
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September 1, 2009 2:58:53 AM

They do need a Blizzard connection on naming the points - maybe a per game name. For a start, in Starcraft II they could call them Star Bucks - oops, guess that's already taken.
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September 1, 2009 4:08:42 AM

Blizzard is a company. Companies exist to make money through providing services or ideas. So trying to lay blame on them for trying to make money is rediculous. Spend a few dollars. Stop expecting hand-outs and free content all the time. No one here knows just how the new system is gonna be implemented. Free free free. It's all I seem to hear now a days. Blizzard has been very successful up to date, because they do listen to their customers. They actively work based on feedback. If the products they charge for aren't worth it.. they will take it away -OR- make it better til it is. Be optimistic guys and gals. Either they earn their money, or they will be ground into dust.
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September 1, 2009 4:23:35 AM

I agree - they can charge what they want, and you know what, people will buy it.

Still, fuck 'em.
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September 1, 2009 4:52:58 AM

just pirate their shit so hard that they will go out of business, that'll teach 'em :) 
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September 1, 2009 5:00:35 AM

pirateboyjust pirate their shit so hard that they will go out of business, that'll teach 'em


No no no.. we don't want to KILL them.. Their products have been entertaining us for quite some time now..

But I see nothing wrong with making them squirm! >:D 
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September 1, 2009 6:35:23 AM

Wait wait wait...
You mean people actually gotta pay to play maps after they already bought the fucking game???
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September 1, 2009 8:25:38 AM

Wait wait wait, this news can't be correct.

Like WoW Gold, there must not be a correlation with currency. The main reason why Blizzard don't want people to buy gold, is because governments may find a correlation with the currency, and thus, tax them.

Buying "Blizzard Points" is the same scheme. This may generate a private un-taxed activities. That with enough volume (and time), will be taxed.

I think somebody in blizzard should go on vacations. For a long time.
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September 1, 2009 12:27:08 PM

"Blizzard is still trying to figure out how to leech money from you wallet via Battle.net."

Biased much? So much for journalistic integrity...

I think by charging for user-generated content, it means that there will be an incentive for people to generate content. And for once, the people that are making good maps are going to be compensated for it. It's a brilliant thing.

The shortsighted Toms Hardware gaming community only seems to see "wahh, I have to pay for something that someone spent hours developing? Waaah. I want free. Mommy, make em give it to me for free." Such spoiled brats around here...
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September 1, 2009 1:41:09 PM

what ever happened to the good ol' days of when you wanted to play a game you just installed it and played? If your friends wanted to join in you had a lan party and you had a good time not to mention real human camaraderie.
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September 1, 2009 1:42:45 PM

I think blizzard needs to realize that gamers made it what it is.. and if we dont like it... we wont take it!
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September 1, 2009 1:44:00 PM

The only problem with creating user based content for sale is that there will be so much that no one will have the same map... I dont know how many times I've tried to play a custom map on starcraft that i knew i had and needed to redownload ANOTHER version of the same map. And another question, how would you keep people from creating knockoff versions of the same map and selling it cheaper? COPYRIGHT?? (That could be FUN stuff) Is blizzard going to have to be the hall monitor and make sure everyone is playing nice when creating maps and making sure that every map you buy is of quality work?

On another tangent, what about map spammers? Not to say there will be amazing map creators out there, but the guys that churn out crappy maps that look good, but have the crappiest(is that how you spell it?) mechanics with triggers and story. And you buy it. And no one else does. Not only are you screwed out of money but the map can't even act as a decoration in your yard or a paperweight. Is blizzard going to create a secure map storage location somewhere so people can't easily find the map in the directory and copy it to a friends computer, or will they make you sign into battle.net to even use the map? So many questions, so few answers. Paying for UGC throws so many wrenches into what was origionally a simple system.
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September 1, 2009 1:55:56 PM

You know where this is going... since WoW is requiring Battle.net conversion now for accounts, down the road I can see WoW UI-modders selling their mods on Battle.net.

Yup - you'll have to PAY to use Deadly Boss Mods, Recount, QuestHelper, Gatherer, Omen Threat Meter, etc...

No more freebies from Curse.com. You'll have to PAY for everything.
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September 1, 2009 1:56:51 PM

DRM for maps?
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September 1, 2009 3:08:42 PM

Pay for new maps? Where is that Picard WTF is this shit photo when you need it?

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September 1, 2009 3:15:18 PM

master exonPeople still don't believe Blizzard is Activision's cashcow... Sigh.Also, what happens if person A made popular map X in SC1, but user B remakes it for SC2 and makes money?


person A better patent and copyright the crap out of map X and then sue user B and everyone that downloaded it for IP infringement. ;)  ;)  That's how the "real world" does things.
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September 1, 2009 3:29:50 PM

agentjonPay for new maps? Where is that Picard WTF is this shit photo when you need it?


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September 1, 2009 3:32:08 PM

Does it say anywhere that there won't still be free maps available? I'm betting there will be, considering the map editor is still included with the game and people are going to need ways to test their own maps. But there will also be premium maps that you can pay for that someone spent a ton of time developing that Blizzard has tested and that lives up to some standard put in place. No doubt there will be a rating system as well so you know which maps are worth it.

So what is all this nonsense about map spam? It's absolute garbage -- fear-mongering bullshit. You people are just looking for a way to crap on this program because you don't like have to pay for content. If you don't want to buy maps, then don't! I'm sure there will still be free maps available. But it's likely the best map makers are going to probably want to sell their maps on battle.net because they put the time in and deserve compensation for their effort.

Such whiny crybabies in this Tom's community... Where's the common sense? It's all loud, nonsensical fear-mongering garbage.
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September 1, 2009 5:42:56 PM

the reason Blizzard's games do so well is BECAUSE of the user generated content. Heck, you get bored on the maps that come w/ the game just as fast as any other game out there. I think its completely unethical and an insult to the community that has made blizzard the company that it is, for them to start charging for the content that the users make. If they want to do that, then HIRE the people making the maps. But, they aren't going to do that. Is anyone else seeing them turning into Apple? Guess thats a good business strat... on the other hand, you have to put out a game more than once every 5yrs. Or is the fact that it comes out that slowly a "feature not a bug?" one you have to be EXTRA for.
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September 1, 2009 6:38:03 PM

I wasnt trying to fearmonger, I was just trying to figure out how they will keep these maps exclusive to the people that pay (will they make the user sign onto bnet to use it?). As you know, this whole game has been about copyright issues and making sure people pay for the game(no more install spawn option :(  )

I just dont see how profitable selling user generated content will be when there is going to be tons of free content that people will create.
I would also like to know how much quality control for this user generated content they will have and how free this market place will be.
Blizzard really needs to get some clarity on this marketplace.

Just my thought: I just dont see how a company who gave free multiplayer in the flagship game, has a rock solid income, and hyped a game for over a year is now taking away the backbone of what made this game so anticipated. Yay, wow/wc3 style heros. why buy sc2 when you can buy wc3 and have the same style of play(hero rush)? or maybe they will make hero units an optional thing in multiplayer(crosses fingers).
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September 1, 2009 7:26:01 PM

frankzz why buy sc2 when you can buy wc3 and have the same style of play(hero rush)? or maybe they will make hero units an optional thing in multiplayer(crosses fingers).


What are you talking about, starcraft 2 doesn't have heroes in multiplayer. How about you learn about a game before you spew your crap all over the internet. Hrmm?

Jesus Christ.
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September 1, 2009 7:35:26 PM

stradricDoes it say anywhere that there won't still be free maps available? I'm betting there will be, considering the map editor is still included with the game and people are going to need ways to test their own maps. But there will also be premium maps that you can pay for that someone spent a ton of time developing that Blizzard has tested and that lives up to some standard put in place.


What I fear blizzard will do is, they will take the most downloaded, and played user created maps, tweak them ever so slightly and then call that map a premium map, revoke the use rights to the original user created map and then make us all shell out a few dollars for it. The user who created the original GETS NOTHING and the EULA will state that in Acient Protossese so he has no legal recourse.
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September 1, 2009 8:49:19 PM

agentjonWhat I fear blizzard will do is, they will take the most downloaded, and played user created maps, tweak them ever so slightly and then call that map a premium map, revoke the use rights to the original user created map and then make us all shell out a few dollars for it. The user who created the original GETS NOTHING and the EULA will state that in Acient Protossese so he has no legal recourse.


Do you people wear tinfoil hats or something?

OH NOES BIG BAD BLIZZARD IS OUT TO GET US!
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September 2, 2009 5:34:53 PM

As usual, what a crappy headline... "Blizzard is still trying to figure out how to leech money from you wallet via Battle.net."

Why are you guys being so whiney? Battle.net is NEARLY 13 years old, offers FREE online play for all 3 of Blizzard's genre's (except WoW) and you complain? You all are getting all worked up as though NO ONE will make any free maps, and you will have to pay for ANY maps that don't come packaged with the game. Get over it. Blizzard makes GREAT original content games, and would be a shame to see them go down the tubes. They are one of the FEW software companies I will even buy games from.
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