the nvidia killer SSE2 and winME

rcf84

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Well the nv20 cant work with p4 due to sse2 and WinME. Well isn't AMD Hammer going to have SSE2. Die Nvidia ! DIE !

This a good chance for ATi to catch-up and where is s3?

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silverpig

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You have a 500E at 1GHz? Running 200 mhz fsb or did you somehow get an unlocked one? Impressive.

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mpjesse

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Yeah- your MAJORLY misinformed bro. The design of the NV20/GeForce 3 was actually centered around SSE2- it says it right on nVidia's site.

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not sure if it has to do with sse2 but apparently the geforce3 doesn't work well with the p4 yet. here's the repeort. i'd include the link to the actual source but it's dead.

"Voodoo5, which was physically incompatible with some of the Pentium4 boards has almost dissapered from the horizon, but it looks like we have a really nice "follower" for it... GeForce3. According to eyewitnesses, a Pentium4 system with GeForce3 is quite unstable, in some cases, even dynamic test could not be passed. Thus some of the manufacturers may delay GeForce3 cards launch and some of them has even declined to make them. We don`t know what is the reason of such behaviour of the card (drivers or a card itself), however, this fact is very annoying.

Probably, NVidia has hastened with the announce of NV20 - it was necessary to wait some time to reinsure from this kind of incidents. It is very funny - a week ago NVidia has informed about Pentium4 and SSE2 optimization for the GF3 GPU, and now it becomes clears that GeForce3 cards can`t work in Pentium4 system properly... I understand, that actually, the drivers, not cards, are optimized, but it it is great when the card simply works :) It seems, that there is at least one reason not to send GeForce3 samples for rewievers..."
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mpjesse

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I'll believe it when I read it from a reliable source. If it's true nVidia will release a statement about it and it'll get fixed real fast.

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P3 500e at 1000ghz no way...

well maybe if you have a mobo vid card and 200 mhz memory else it is would be impossible.. Kinfd of makesd you wonder about the rest he said.. But then again if it is true then it would be a mayor setback for nvidia. Also i find it rather odd that nvidia first releases the geforce 3 gpu first on the macs only ? or is that just my paranoia

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nope! no matter howmany nines you add (even infinity) its still less than 3!



<i><b><font color=red>"2 is not equal to 3, not even for large values of 2"</font color=red></b></i>
 
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here's a little proof using some algebra showing 2.9 repeating = 3


n = 2.9999999.....
10n = 29.9999999.....

10n - n = 9n
29.99999..... - 2.99999..... = 27
9n = 27
n = 3
so 2.9999999...... = 3

kinda neat.

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by DeSilentio on 03/09/01 04:06 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
 
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First off, I have read from MANY sites that the P4 has problems running the Gf3, it crashes A LOT.
 

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crap thats what i meant - i am currently deprived of 34 hours of sleep so give me some slack.

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Crashman

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Maybe they still make the Savage 2000 and the FireGL, maybe just the GL. Anyway, they sold most of that business to VIA after anouncing that they would be changing direction in their product line, based on the sucess of the Rio! Bad decision-soon everybody will be in that business and the prices will be below profit level for them! Typical Corporate types, can't see the "big picture"!

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Good Trick!

But, it looks like a lotta conditions have to be met in order to have them be equal.



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don't get me wrong... i love the signature. i think it is hillarious.

but what kind of conditions are we talking about here? the continuity of algebra? it not being applicable for all infinite number sytems (or systems in general)? or are we talking under conditions of STP? if you've got any insights into this i'd love to hear'em (even if it's a bit off topic... sorry everybody). i've always been baffled and fasinated by this one myself. another piece of evidence suggesting otherwise (albiet circumstantial and perhaps just a coincidence) is 1/9 = .111... , 2/9 = .222... , 3/9 = .333... , ... , 8/9 = .888... , 9/9 = .999... (er i mean 1) ... 26/9 = 2.888... , 27/9 = ?.
 
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6/9 = .6666666666666666666667(give or take few sixes)
7/9 = .7777777777777777777778
8/9 = .8888888888888888888889
9/9 = .999999999999999999999(now the 10 knocks everything up) = 1.

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HolyGrenade

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Its been ages since I had to really think about mathematical problems like this. Last time must have been during A'Levels (<i>American translation:</i> High school).

And then Again I only did 2 units of pure maths, which had very little number theory. But, what i have picked up is that floating point (decimal) can be inaccurate in many situations. Fractions are far more reliable.

My tutor was such a believer in fractions that he even used a fractional representation for pi. I think it was accurate for only upto 4 to 5 decimal places.

Unfortunately computers are not exactly good at handling recurring numbers or fractions. So, there is a little problem.

Sorry I couldn't give you any more insights. I will however admit to being refuted to your proof by contradiction.

I'm now gonna have to find a new signature!!!!!!!
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nooooo..... don't do it! at least for a little while... unless of course you're hidding a better one.
 

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ya know after 4 yrs of college math I must say 2 < 3. There is proof, but it's too long to put down here. Oh and 2.99999... does not equal 2.

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HolyGrenade

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Congratulations, Bravo, Well done. Your parents must be proud!


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