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Anonymous
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May 12, 2005 11:02:46 AM

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Hi,

Many posters use "Hi Guys" as greetings. Do they think that there is no
such thing as a Gal in this business? Guess who was president of HP for
the longest time. A gal!!!

Just so you know who the sexists are!


Mike

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Anonymous
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May 12, 2005 12:27:11 PM

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axipolti@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Many posters use "Hi Guys" as greetings. Do they think that there is no
> such thing as a Gal in this business? Guess who was president of HP for
> the longest time. A gal!!!
>
> Just so you know who the sexists are!

Huh? It's a generic, "Hi Guys."

Get a grip.

Notan
May 12, 2005 3:11:30 PM

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<axipolti@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1115906566.093670.242130@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Hi,
>
> Many posters use "Hi Guys" as greetings. Do they think that there is no
> such thing as a Gal in this business? Guess who was president of HP for
> the longest time. A gal!!!
>
> Just so you know who the sexists are!
>
> Mike

You mean ol' Carly Fiorina? You mean the gal that has driven HP down during
her entire reign as CEO as was finally fired? The Board decided to say "Hi
Guys" when interviewing for replacement. So were they sexist or just
holding her to the same standards as the "guys"?
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Anonymous
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May 12, 2005 4:13:19 PM

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<axipolti@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1115906566.093670.242130@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Hi,
>
> Many posters use "Hi Guys" as greetings. Do they think that there is no
> such thing as a Gal in this business? Guess who was president of HP for
> the longest time. A gal!!!
>
> Just so you know who the sexists are!
>
>
> Mike
>


Grow a pair, Mike. You're stretching awfully hard to be offended.


Have a nice day!

Stew
Anonymous
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May 12, 2005 6:23:49 PM

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Are you kidding????. Are you Mike or Michelle???.

Carly Fiorina!!. Now she is giving lectures on how she was mistreated
in a Man's World. She blew it. I did construction coordinating for a
Developer in my younger years. I learned very quickly with hard core
contruction workers on how to be respected as a women and become one of
the guys. Following Quote, which I'm only makes her worse in the eyes
of a Man's World.

"Free of corporate PR controls, Carly Fiorina has called on graduate job
seekers to beware of institutionalized racism and sexism in her first
speaking gig since losing the top job at Hewlett Packard Co.

Speaking in North Carolina, HP's recently departed chief executive
officer has - according to reports - urged graduates to live up to their
potential and overcome cultural stereotypes.

It's a message Fiorina has based on her own experience working in the
male-dominated environments of AT&T sales during the 1970s and Silicon
Valley during the last decade as HP's CEO.

Fiorina drew on one of her encounters at AT&T where she was described by
one early boss as their "token bimbo" and dealings with certain high
tech CEOs - no names mentioned - that left her feeling like the "token
bimbo" years later.

Despite this, Fiorina - importantly - has no regrets for the decisions
she has taken, which ultimately led to her demise. Quite the contrary,
in fact, as Fiorina says she's "proud" and "at peace" despite losing her
job "in the most public way possible."

Joan

axipolti@yahoo.com wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Many posters use "Hi Guys" as greetings. Do they think that there is no
> such thing as a Gal in this business? Guess who was president of HP for
> the longest time. A gal!!!
>
> Just so you know who the sexists are!
>
>
> Mike
>
Anonymous
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May 12, 2005 8:10:41 PM

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Joan Hansen <user@my.net> wrote in news:UaNge.4175$It1.2897@lakeread02:

> Fiorina drew on one of her encounters at AT&T where she was described
> by one early boss as their "token bimbo" and dealings with certain
> high tech CEOs - no names mentioned - that left her feeling like the
> "token bimbo" years later.
>
> Despite this, Fiorina - importantly - has no regrets for the decisions
> she has taken, which ultimately led to her demise. Quite the contrary,
> in fact, as Fiorina says she's "proud" and "at peace" despite losing
> her job "in the most public way possible."
>

Well, I WAS going to restrain myself on this topic, but I just can't
resist.

My company used to be a major HP customer, from using HP
Test&Measurement equipment to HP CAD stations to HP NetServer Servers to
HP Vectra PCs to HP Jornada handhelds. We watched as each of these
product lines was systematically demolished after Fiorina took over. The
fact that she can't see any error only confirms the "Bimbo" image.

I knew a number of people at HP on various rungs of the corporate
ladder; they ALL had the same low opinion of her.

(If one wants to see a non-Bimbo in action, just look at Meg Whitman of
eBay).

Michael Dell should be very,very grateful that Carly Fiorina was running
HP and Lou Gerstner was running IBM; They both contributed equally to
him now being King of the Hill. If it weren't for Carly Fiorina, I
probably wouldn't be typing this on a Dell PC.

- FM -
Anonymous
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May 12, 2005 9:57:59 PM

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Fred Mau wrote:
> Joan Hansen <user@my.net> wrote in
> news:UaNge.4175$It1.2897@lakeread02:
>
>> Fiorina drew on one of her encounters at AT&T where she was described
>> by one early boss as their "token bimbo" and dealings with certain
>> high tech CEOs - no names mentioned - that left her feeling like the
>> "token bimbo" years later.
>>
>> Despite this, Fiorina - importantly - has no regrets for the
>> decisions she has taken, which ultimately led to her demise. Quite
>> the contrary, in fact, as Fiorina says she's "proud" and "at peace"
>> despite losing her job "in the most public way possible."
>>
>
> Well, I WAS going to restrain myself on this topic, but I just can't
> resist.
>
> My company used to be a major HP customer, from using HP
> Test&Measurement equipment to HP CAD stations to HP NetServer Servers
> to HP Vectra PCs to HP Jornada handhelds. We watched as each of these
> product lines was systematically demolished after Fiorina took over.
> The fact that she can't see any error only confirms the "Bimbo" image.
>
> I knew a number of people at HP on various rungs of the corporate
> ladder; they ALL had the same low opinion of her.
>
> (If one wants to see a non-Bimbo in action, just look at Meg Whitman
> of eBay).
>
> Michael Dell should be very,very grateful that Carly Fiorina was
> running HP and Lou Gerstner was running IBM; They both contributed
> equally to him now being King of the Hill. If it weren't for Carly
> Fiorina, I probably wouldn't be typing this on a Dell PC.
>
> - FM -

You are correct about Carly (my German Shepherd Dog is Karli, no
relation), but to be fair, HP was already well on its way in
dissassembly of everything that made HP great when Fiorina was hired.
Maybe they felt hung up on the process and saw the way she trashed
Lucent, and thought, "well, we don't have too many history majors here".

Q
Anonymous
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May 16, 2005 7:11:22 AM

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axipolti@yahoo.com wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Many posters use "Hi Guys" as greetings. Do they think that there is no
> such thing as a Gal in this business?

"Guys" has been a genderless term at least since the 60's when my ex's
friends at her women's college would call out "Hey guys, wait up!".
Anonymous
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May 16, 2005 7:19:37 AM

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LOL, I must have missed this. I hollered out "hey guys" to my two female
chocolate lab pups last night. As far as I could tell, they weren't
offended :) 
Monica
"Sparky Spartacus" <Sparky@universalexports.org> wrote in message
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> axipolti@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Many posters use "Hi Guys" as greetings. Do they think that there is no
>> such thing as a Gal in this business?
>
> "Guys" has been a genderless term at least since the 60's when my ex's
> friends at her women's college would call out "Hey guys, wait up!".
Anonymous
a b α HP
May 16, 2005 5:21:06 PM

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I officiate lots of soccer matches, both genders. The girls talk about
"man-marking" an opponent, and say "pick up that guy over there", or say "Hey,
guys! Let's get going!" Guy has become a pretty genderless word. And in
German, "man" is not masculine at all... Ben Myers

On 12 May 2005 07:02:46 -0700, axipolti@yahoo.com wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Many posters use "Hi Guys" as greetings. Do they think that there is no
>such thing as a Gal in this business? Guess who was president of HP for
>the longest time. A gal!!!
>
>Just so you know who the sexists are!
>
>
>Mike
>
May 17, 2005 1:46:08 AM

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In article <42889dd9.1899978@nntp.charter.net>, ben_myers_spam_me_not @
charter.net (Ben Myers) says...
> I officiate lots of soccer matches, both genders. The girls talk about
> "man-marking" an opponent, and say "pick up that guy over there", or say "Hey,
> guys! Let's get going!" Guy has become a pretty genderless word. And in
> German, "man" is not masculine at all... Ben Myers
>
> On 12 May 2005 07:02:46 -0700, axipolti@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> >Hi,
> >
> >Many posters use "Hi Guys" as greetings. Do they think that there is no
> >such thing as a Gal in this business? Guess who was president of HP for
> >the longest time. A gal!!!
> >
> >Just so you know who the sexists are!
> >
> >
> >Mike
> >
>
>
Where I work, a lot of people use the term Folks when they are
addressing mixed company.
--

Cheers!

Jan
Anonymous
a b α HP
May 17, 2005 2:50:28 AM

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you must be in the midwest!

"Jan" <myredsunfire@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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> Where I work, a lot of people use the term Folks when they are
> addressing mixed company.
> --
>
> Cheers!
>
> Jan
Anonymous
a b α HP
May 17, 2005 2:50:29 AM

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WSZsr wrote:
>
> you must be in the midwest!

Growing up on the East coast, I remember it being used there,
*heavily*!

Notan
Anonymous
a b α HP
May 17, 2005 7:04:18 AM

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Monica wrote:

> LOL, I must have missed this. I hollered out "hey guys" to my two female
> chocolate lab pups last night. As far as I could tell, they weren't
> offended :) 

QED, thanks Monica!
Anonymous
a b α HP
May 17, 2005 7:04:56 AM

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Ben Myers wrote:

> I officiate lots of soccer matches, both genders. The girls talk about
> "man-marking" an opponent, and say "pick up that guy over there", or say "Hey,
> guys! Let's get going!" Guy has become a pretty genderless word. And in
> German, "man" is not masculine at all...

IIRC that's the Brits.

<seg>
Anonymous
a b α HP
May 17, 2005 7:05:21 AM

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Jan wrote:

> In article <42889dd9.1899978@nntp.charter.net>, ben_myers_spam_me_not @
> charter.net (Ben Myers) says...
>
>>I officiate lots of soccer matches, both genders. The girls talk about
>>"man-marking" an opponent, and say "pick up that guy over there", or say "Hey,
>>guys! Let's get going!" Guy has become a pretty genderless word. And in
>>German, "man" is not masculine at all... Ben Myers
>>
>>On 12 May 2005 07:02:46 -0700, axipolti@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>Many posters use "Hi Guys" as greetings. Do they think that there is no
>>>such thing as a Gal in this business? Guess who was president of HP for
>>>the longest time. A gal!!!
>>>
>>>Just so you know who the sexists are!
>>>
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>
>>
>>
> Where I work, a lot of people use the term Folks when they are
> addressing mixed company.

Regionalism, like "y'all"
May 17, 2005 4:31:15 PM

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In article <Us9ie.843$5Z1.783@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com>,
nospam@hotmail.com says...
> you must be in the midwest!
>
> "Jan" <myredsunfire@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1cf2b49ee8c1c1ae9896f8@shawnews...
> > Where I work, a lot of people use the term Folks when they are
> > addressing mixed company.
> > --
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > Jan
>
>
>
Nope - Victoria BC. I think one person used it and it just caught on.
--

Cheers!

Jan
!