Interesting Viewpoint To Those Who Would Bomb...

Good article. It does scratch upon a point though that shouldn't be overlooked. If a military assault is initiated it won't just be against afghanistan. It will be against many nations. But in the end the Taliban who that man hates so much and Bin-laden who the world now despises will be dead. Will the world be a better place then?

As far as a world war? I don't really think it will be a world war. First of all we'll dominate the skies, and the seas. I don't see how this can then spread into a world war when it will be issolated to where we decide to go. It'll be a fight against terrorism and everyone wants to get rid of that. I read today that 60 nations are potential targets in order to wipe out terrorism. 60 nations! But we pick those nations along with our allies, so we decide if this is a world war. They don't. The first step right now is freezing terrorists assets. I understand that the gov'ts of the world are working to shut off the terrorist organizations bank accounts. Nonetheless, some wars are worth fighting.

As far as the Afghans? Hopefully they'll be spared. But their gov't won't. You never know though. What if the Taliban turn Bin-Laden over to the USA?

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link <A HREF="http://asia.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/asiapcf/east/09/16/china.threat/index.html" target="_new">here</A> for the article on the Macau incident and the 5 Pakistani 'terrorists'

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While we're at it, why did Portugal give Macua back to China?

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<b>12 Islamic extremists entered Japan before terrorist attacks</b>
2001-09-16 18:11 (New York)

TOKYO, Sept. 17 Kyodo
The Japanese government has received information about the possibility that some 12 foreign Islamic extremists came to Japan in early September shortly before the terrorist attacks on the United States, according to sources close to the case.
After the government got the information from a foreign intelligence agency, the National Police Agency and others directed police forces across the country to look into the matter and Japanese police beefed up security around U.S. military bases and other U.S. facilities.
Japanese immigration authorities are also looking into the arrivals and departures of the 12 suspected Islamic extremists at Narita, Kansai and other airports that handle international flights,the sources said.
-0- Sep/16/2001 22:11 GMT




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Wow, that's a really interesting article. I don't know if all of his conclusions and predictions would come true. I hope not, but who knows...

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<A HREF="http://portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/09/17/nmus17.xml" target="_new">This pisses me off</A>

There's just so much wrong about this.

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Reports are coming forth that Pakistani efforts have failed, but I can't find any details.

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read the same - the telegraph was carrying a story but it seems to be down right now.

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just getting a run on bomb threats and evacuations in Tokyo right now. Seem to be centered on Citigroup/bank, but nothing concrete yet. Nothing against my buildings yet.

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To satisfy the anger felt amongst all of us, there will be an air strike of major proportions without a doubt for all to see with full coverage from the media.

But this war against terrorist will be a long and drawn out secret affair. This man sought after is highly trained and very intelligent to the ways of US defense, have a guess which country he was in when the attack on America was taking place. Where would he be now? Certainly would be well out of Afghanistan that's for sure.

We need co-operation from every nation on earth and then some, not entirely likely is it, I'm suggesting he is back in Nth Africa or has just been through there.

Now every nation has sent their condolences and sympathies to the American people and to the other nations who lost their own citizens in the catastrophic event.

What about other terrorism actions in the world that has never affected the USA in adversity?
How about these obvious ones like:
IRA and Britain?
Tamil tigers and Sri Lanka?
Indonesian gorillas v' East Timor?
Many many more, this is why just about every Government in the world loves USA right now.
The USA is calling on the world for assistance, once they achieve what they want, will they continue with the war against terrorism to fight that crime against civilization for all the rest of the world as well?
This is the question on the world’s lips?

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ok ok. sorry Mr Fatburger teacherman, been to close to home here for us .

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That's why I was wondering. That would be really cool...but scary.

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Trust you guys to trash a post. brothers in arms ....Two of a kind!

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The interesting thing is, Would the UK ever even dream of airstriking Ireland?

Not a chance!

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They're working on counter-terrorist operations as well, but they first have to decide how far they are willing to go. Are American's willing to have their gov't assasinate world leaders, torture for information, and worst of all how do we infiltrate terrorist cells? We really can't so military options will be neccessary to destroy the camps and infrastructure. It's not just about Afghanistan.

I too doubt the UK would bomb Ireland. Everyone has to decide how far they are willing to go. Right now American's are about to go really far, but our allies will have to decide for themselves about their internal terrorism since we aren't about to be allowed, let alone want to bomb, in allied countries. Nato members specifically.

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Yeah, the difference would be that we would need to have a draft to get enough soldiers.

An attack is an attack.

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The navy wasn't crippled at all, The Japs missed the aircraft carriers which was the primary objective. What they did sink or disable was a small portion of the fleet.
With America's ability to build ships quickly it was not a big problem to replace what they lost.

The Germans did more damage to the US merchant shipping actually.

<font color=orange>Beam</font color=orange><font color=red> me</font color=red><font color=green> up</font color=green><font color=blue> Scotty</font color=blue>.

True, it was a turkey shoot in the end, but the US had plenty of other fleets around and had allied backing from Australia and NZ.
The Japanese considered sinking merchant supply ships not honorable and eventually that’s what sunk them, they also thought submarines were not honorable either and although they used the mini sub to little effect, in the main didn't capitalize with them.
Bad part was they built ships and planes from scrap metal bought from the USA up until that fateful day. Ironic that is what happened recently having your own materials used against you. Unfortunately..


<font color=orange>Beam</font color=orange><font color=red> me</font color=red><font color=green> up</font color=green><font color=blue> Scotty</font color=blue>.

True - the Afghan people are not what they were 10 or 15 years ago, but do not overlook the fact that the Soviets were at the time a pretty well armed force. Sure they didn't have today's toys in the battlefield - but the issue for any force against the Afghans is the they are used to wars of attrition, they are relatively at one with their land and need little food or support to significantly disrupt ground operations against any force.

Sure, the Afghan people are fleeing right now - what choice do they have, but bear in mind 99% of them do not know or understand what has happened in the US. The Taliban by our standards, and I believe that of any other, is a cruel and manipulative entity, however they control the information and rigt now the Afghan people fear that the US and its 'Allies' are mounting a jihad of their own against Muslim nations, specifically Afghanistan, with no or little provocation. Sure, you and I get CNN and saw what happened, know about the Embassy bombings, the first WTC bomb, the USS Cole etc. - but they do not, and they do not understand it.

Right now they are fleeing, and they are a tired and hungry people, but they are proud and have a legendary history of resilience and success at wearing down and defeating invading forces of massively higher technology levels. Sure we can churn the rubble of their cities, we can flatten whatever remains of their economy - but at the ene it makes no difference to 95% of the Afghan people because they have little or nothing anyway. Start killing 'innocent' Afghans, who do not understand what or why this is happening and you will turn them, and most likely every neutral and possible friendly muslim nation against us.

Look at Pakistan next door. Sure the West and the US have pressured and greased enough palms to have them fall in line and agree to help us politcally and even militarily, however they have a very shaky internal balance of power and a high muslim poulation, with a very vocal and dominant fundamentalist layer at the top. If Pakistan help US attacks on the Afghan people, their dictatorship topples, the fundamentalists have an opportunity to seize power <b><i> and they are a confirmed nuclear capable nation</b></i>.

Anyone want to bet the world goes to hell in a handcart if fundamentalists get hold of nukes (advanced or otherwise) in that region? It doesn't bear thinking about. Anyway, I'm off topic from your question/response - but what I'm saying is that this is not the walk over or brute force exercise that many seem to be expecting.

Personally I hope for the least innocent casualties possible whilst the US and her allies neutralise as many pockets of terrorism throughout the globe. I fear, however that this is a very tall wish.

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