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And after Solndra, there is now Light Squared

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September 16, 2011 3:04:14 PM

Nothing has been set in stone yet JSC, but it is a bit troublesome that this could interfere with GPS.

This ones at Oldman:

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The company filed for bankruptcy last month, saying it could not compete with its Chinese competitors, which receive "considerable government and financial support."


So they couldn't compete with Chinese manufacturing? Isn't the free market doing exactly what its designed to do? They couldn't compete and got closed. So we should either stop investing in solar or invest more heavily in it?
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September 16, 2011 3:14:56 PM

You find a way to compete or you become extinct. If you can't compete when you are handed half a billion dollars you have no business being in business.
September 16, 2011 3:24:34 PM

wanamingo said:
Nothing has been set in stone yet JSC, but it is a bit troublesome that this could interfere with GPS.

That's not the real problem. The GPS interference question can be solved by studies. The real problem is White House pressure on Gen. Shelton.
September 21, 2011 4:27:03 AM

wanamingo said:
Nothing has been set in stone yet JSC, but it is a bit troublesome that this could interfere with GPS.

This ones at Oldman:

Quote:
The company filed for bankruptcy last month, saying it could not compete with its Chinese competitors, which receive "considerable government and financial support."


So they couldn't compete with Chinese manufacturing? Isn't the free market doing exactly what its designed to do? They couldn't compete and got closed. So we should either stop investing in solar or invest more heavily in it?

the chinese have cheaper labor too.
that would mean we would have to throw a lot of money into it.
Solar is still not worth it for average consumers at that cost.
September 21, 2011 4:53:57 AM

they couldn't compete with the product that they were developing. It was a more complicated, more expensive solar panel.

The Chinese and many American manufactures typically are producing the older versions of the solar panels. They are trying to cut production cost (which they are) so the product will actually be a viable product for consumers to purchase. Attempting to develop, produce, and sell a more expensive solar panel when the older versions are still fairly expensive was a bad business model.

The Chinese also invest heavily into solar panel manufacturing and innovation, something the US government typically doesn't do, or at least in the Solyndra case, they don't do it very well.

here is an article that summarizes the effect that china has on the solar market
http://www.electroiq.com/articles/pvw/2011/09/solar-pri...

It is only one article so you wont get the whole picture.
September 21, 2011 12:48:22 PM

thesnappyfingers said:
they couldn't compete with the product that they were developing. It was a more complicated, more expensive solar panel.

The Chinese and many American manufactures typically are producing the older versions of the solar panels. They are trying to cut production cost (which they are) so the product will actually be a viable product for consumers to purchase. Attempting to develop, produce, and sell a more expensive solar panel when the older versions are still fairly expensive was a bad business model.

The Chinese also invest heavily into solar panel manufacturing and innovation, something the US government typically doesn't do, or at least in the Solyndra case, they don't do it very well.

here is an article that summarizes the effect that china has on the solar market
http://www.electroiq.com/articles/pvw/2011/09/solar-pri...

It is only one article so you wont get the whole picture.



You laid out the perfect case for why government shouldn't be investing in anything. If the private sector can't make it work no amount of tax payer "investment" dollars will work.

I think these so called "investments" are nothing more than a slush fund and millions of it are going to find their way back into democrat campaign coffers this election cycle.
September 21, 2011 2:43:56 PM

Oldmangamer_73 said:
You laid out the perfect case for why government shouldn't be investing in anything. If the private sector can't make it work no amount of tax payer "investment" dollars will work.

I think these so called "investments" are nothing more than a slush fund and millions of it are going to find their way back into democrat campaign coffers this election cycle.




The private sector has a way of making it work. It is called outsourcing......

Have it done overseas and import it with no tariffs and distribute it here and make a good margin.

What is the big deal anyway.... the company is making money .... right?
(loss of American jobs and $$$$)

And new Rome is Falling……
September 21, 2011 8:36:47 PM

No, the empire rusts first at its edges :see Greece
December 11, 2011 11:05:11 AM

Insider trading at its worst, connections/collaboators at its highest (president), OWS pointing in the wrong direction, the media sleeping (or cheering) on such matters, offenders becoming accusers for the purpose of deflection, anyone pointing out such actions recieving the racist code, and soon the people will revolt, in votes.
I predict actions such as these will cause a severe problem for certain political groups, as well as our media, as theres no excuse, everywhere we look we find smoke, yet many are just cauticiouly stepping around it, holding their noses with one hand, and pointing their fingers with the other.

The people are getting restless, not a good omen for some
December 13, 2011 10:48:09 PM

"Harbinger, headed by big Democratic donor Philip Falcone. Grassley and others suspect that the waiver grant and oddly uncurious attitude of the FCC might have to do with the firm’s political connections, which is why Grassley wants to see the FCC’s correspondence between the FCC and the company itself, and between the FCC and the White House as well. FCC chair Julius Genachowski has refused to cooperate to three separate requests over the last seven months, saying that agencies do not have to honor “compulsory” oversight except from committees with jurisdiction over their operations. "
If this admin claims for an open admin like never seen before, and we keep seeing all these close ties to donors, fed monies and special treatment, followed up by delays and ommissions of fact, where is this so called openess?
If every nook and cranny of the Fed, which either has been reselected by the current admin, or has been under criticism in the past, such as Feddie and Fanny etc,hides, and or delays such infos, theres simply no need for this admin to press towards such openess.
Its time for a major house cleaning, the likes weve never seen before.
Put these peoples out on the OWS lines, looking from the outside in, and that, only after removing their money from them, or if found to be bad enough, from jail
December 13, 2011 11:20:10 PM

When AT&T and T-Mobile requested to withdraw their application for FCC review of their proposed merger, preferring to concentrate for now on winning the unfair suit brought against them by the Justice Department, the initial response from progressives was furious. They demanded instead that the FCC dismiss the application with prejudice, effectively killing the merger despite the plain language of the commission’s own rules. And they further demanded that the FCC release its “staff report” on the merger, rumored to be highly negative thanks to the input of those same anti-merger groups.
Unfortunately, both of these things are against the rules and precedent. One might think that would be the end of the story, but no. Yesterday, the commission agreed to follow its own rules and dismiss the application without prejudice. However, it disgraced itself, landed a punch on AT&T, and pleased the Left by releasing the staff report. Notice that a staff report by definition does not reflect the judgment or even the consideration of the commission. The FCC action is unprecedented given that the applicants had won approval to withdraw their application without prejudice earlier that day from the full commission.

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/324292.php
It appears, all these sub groups prefer to save face, attack business, and then deny their owns words and deeds to the American people, than do what theyve been created for.

I will say this once again, whether its OWS or the TEA party, we need to rid ourselves of these people, quit listening to them, come together with our differences, or hire (vote in) those that will.

PS
First, the FCC granted LightSquared a waiver and has refused to release any information regarding how they came to that decision. Then, the FCC blocked the AT&T acquisition of T-Moble. This clearly helped LightSquared because of their partnership with Sprint. Finally in an entirely different decision, the FCC gave AT&T a "consolation prize", which just happens to benefit LightSquared again. LightSquared, the company owned by a major Democratic donor.

The Law Firm

In May, the FCC announced that they would be bringing in a former Justice Department official to run the review of the AT&T / T-Mobile merger. Who is she?

A former Justice Department Antitrust Division official will spearhead the Federal Communications Commission review of the proposed AT&T and T-Mobile merger, the FCC announced Tuesday.
Renata Hesse, who led the DOJ Antitrust Division Networks and Technology Enforcement Section, will be the FCC’s senior counsel to the chairman for transactions, looking over the proposed $39 billion merger of the telecommunications companies as part of her responsibilities. The FCC will determine whether the proposed deal is good for the public, while the Justice Department will examine it for antitrust pitfalls.

Hesse is currently a partner at the law firm of Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati in D.C.


Recognize that law firm? Yes, it's the same firm that represented Solyndra during the Department of Energy's government-backed loans to renewable energy projects, netting over $2.4 million in the process.

The same firm whose employees donated more than $130,000 to Obama's 2008 campaign.

The same firm that has Allison Spinner as a partner, wife of Obama super-bundler Steve Spinner (who also "helped monitor" the DoE's loan program).

The same firm that had John Roos as CEO up until 2009, who was a major Obama fundraiser and has since left to become Ambassador to Japan.
Same link

PSS
With all this relationship/same people, youd think this was small town Iowa, with all apologies to Iowa and Iowans
December 14, 2011 12:23:39 AM

Yet, Boeing wants to open a plant in South Carolina, creating hundreds of jobs but are sued in court to prevent it because SC is a right to work state.

What's wrong with this picture? The world is upside down.
December 14, 2011 12:27:24 AM

No, the wrong people have somehow been given credence by those who would corrupt for power and or money.
We need to get rid of them all, the mouth pieces, and those behind the curtain, and those elected, who hide behind that curtain
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