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Anonymous
July 31, 2005 10:07:02 AM

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i am the administrater on my families comp and ive forgotten my new password
please help i cannot access my user account
Anonymous
July 31, 2005 11:30:54 AM

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Windows XP is very very stupid.
The windows login screen is misleading.
There is an administrative acconut with a blank password and it has its
own picture to click on to log in. But when you create your own
administrative user account, that default administrative account with
the blank password is hidden. Rather, the picture for it is hidden.

So CTRL-ALT-DELETE twice and then you can log in as Administrator with
a blank password.

It's a bit silly not to have realised there was this default
administrative account. But I guess as it's a family computer you
can't play aroudn and learn on it.

Suppose you did change the password of the default administrative
account (a very silly thing to do), but at least it'd mean that what
you say is correct.

Well, then download for free the
OFFLINE NT PASSWORD AND RECOVERY EDITOR BY Petter Nordahl-Hagen

more possibilities are here
http://www.petri.co.il/forgot_administrator_password.ht...
July 31, 2005 2:54:58 PM

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"james hanley" <jameshanley39@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Windows XP is very very stupid.
> The windows login screen is misleading.
> There is an administrative acconut with a blank password

Only if the user is very very stupid by leaving the password blank
instead of specifying one during the install or afterward by changing
it. It may be blank. It may not. If it is blank, the user is one that
is very very stupid. If they leave it blank, they might as well as get
TweakUI for Windows XP and use the option to always login in
automatically as the Administrator since anyone else accessing that
computer could login under the Administrator account.

> and it has its
> own picture to click on to log in. But when you create your own
> administrative user account, that default administrative account
> with
> the blank password is hidden. Rather, the picture for it is hidden.

Ah, the joys of using the dumb-down Fisher Price user interface rather
than reverting to the classic interface which didn't lead you astray.

> So CTRL-ALT-DELETE twice and then you can log in as Administrator
> with
> a blank password.

*IF* the OP is using Windows XP Professional. If they are using Windows
XP Home Edition, they have to reboot into Safe Mode. Ah, the joys of
going cheap to get the home version.

> It's a bit silly not to have realised there was this default
> administrative account. But I guess as it's a family computer you
> can't play aroudn and learn on it.

Why not? Create drive images, play, and restore. Or get Virtual PC
(cheaper than VMware), create a virtual host, play with it, and delete
it when done. In fact, you might want to do this when installing
unknown software; i.e., use the virtual PC as a sandbox or as a test
host. So far, drive images (saved before a software install) along with
InstallWatch and restore points are sufficient for me, but a virtual PC
to play on sounds useful. Definitely cheaper at $120 than buying a
whole other computer. If you go the drive image approach, always enable
its verify option (which doubles the time to create the backup).
Backups, whether drive images or logical file backups, are worthless if
you can't read from them later.

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Anonymous
July 31, 2005 6:20:49 PM

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Hi

Please try the following link:

http://www3.telus.net/dandemar­/lostpass.htm

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"muzmarie" <muzmarie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>i am the administrater on my families comp and ive forgotten my new
>password
> please help i cannot access my user account
August 3, 2005 8:59:23 PM

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> and am the administrater on my families comp and ive forgotten my new
password
> please help and cannot access my user account
Hello "muzmarie"
To decide your problem I would advise you to look in BIOS there must be an
inset and on her all that touches passwords.You can delete password, and
then again reset it. But I do not know whether your BIOS allows it.
Otto
Anonymous
August 6, 2005 9:23:52 PM

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> Windows XP is very very stupid.
> The windows login screen is misleading.
> There is an administrative acconut with a blank password


>>Only if the user is very very stupid by leaving the password blank
>>instead of specifying one during the install or afterward by changing
>>it. It may be blank. It may not. If it is blank, the user is one that
>>is very very stupid. If they leave it blank, they might as well as get
>>TweakUI for Windows XP and use the option to always login in
>>automatically as the Administrator since anyone else accessing that
>>computer could login under the Administrator account.

The question of what level of security. Or a question of how much you
lock yourself out or inconvenience yourself.

In this case, I changed my mind and agree with you though - regarding
not having a blank administrator password. But in this case since the
system is used by a family and you already have each member with
his/her password, and you want the administrative accoutn in order to
limit everybody else so they can't mess up the computer.

However. If he's going to have a password on the default administrator.
account, then he needs to take the precautions to deal with getting
around that level of security. He needs something like Petter
Nordahl's offline NT password recovery program. Just incase he even
locked himself out of his default administrative accoutn by forgetting
the password for that.

Regarding loggin in as administrator automatically with TweakXP. You
can log in automatically as anybody, using built in win xp features.
start run control userpasswords2 then uncheck "users must enter
a username or password to use.." Then click apply, and it asks for teh
username and password which it will enter automatically for you every
time you go in.


> and it has its
> own picture to click on to log in. But when you create your own
> administrative user account, that default administrative account
> with
> the blank password is hidden. Rather, the picture for it is hidden.


>>Ah, the joys of using the dumb-down Fisher Price user interface rather
>>than reverting to the classic interface which didn't lead you astray.

Fisher Price has a huge advantage. You don't need to remember your
username. and if you don't have a password, then you don't need to
remember anything.


Regarding VPC,VMWARE,InstallWatch,Images

note: Ghost images - norton ghost, is the standard prog now

Great ideas.
I tried VPC and VMWARE. I found that VMWARE has better NWing support.
VPC has a nicer GUI since there's little or no NWing things to
configure. Both were smooth and stable with 1 virtual machine ! Great
for testing software that's crashing(it rules out a hell of a lot). Or
testing new software. I had some crashes with more than 1 VM. VMWARE
seemed more stable with >1 VM , than VPC though. VPC had this weird
keyboard crash(not a focus issue).
!