What is the bottelneck in my system?

[trusnoop]

My system is:
P III 600/133
192ram
radeon 64 SDR @170/170 AGP @ 4x

I get a score of 1650 in 3d mark 2001. Is the score low cause of the CPU or the Radeon?

my seocnd question is:
What bells and whisles does a radeon VE 32 DDR miss
compared to this radeon 64 sdr that i have? cause i can still exchange to a radeon ve 32 ddr if both are pretty much the same.

thanks


<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by trusnoop on 08/10/01 10:08 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[Guest]

The bottleneck is the graphic card's memory. As long as SDRAM has been used on videocards, it has always caused a memory bandwidth problem. Even DDR still bottlenecks on today's faster cards, such as the GeForce series, Voodoo5, etc..
I can't tell you weather a Raedon VE 32DDR would be any better though, as I have had very little experience with either card.

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[AMD_Man]

I disagree, your bottleneck is the processor not the graphics card. The Radeon 64MB SDR can score much higher than that on a faster processor. Don't trade your card for a Radeon VE! Trade it in for a Radeon LE! The Radeon LE is faster than the SDR and cheaper too!

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[rcf84]

Well is the Ram PC133 also you running Win2k if so get atleast 256mb of PC133

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[Crashman]

I get about twice that with a Radeon LE overclocked to 183/183 with Hyper Z enabled on a PIII 700@933.
You could try the LE, it should give you better performance. It is even available with TVO (tv-out, both composite and S-Video simultaniously). The basic version goes for under $70, the TVO for under $100.
Too bad you don't have the 100MHz fsb version of the 600. The 600E will go to 800 at at 133. You could always get a PIII 700 and overclock it to 933 at 133FSB.
BTW, your 600, is it the 600EB or the older 600B?

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[trusnoop]

crashman, in bios it says 600/133, it is a socket 370, and i am pretty sure its .18 micron.

I tried to oc the cpu but was unsuccessful. I have another thread under cpu section in which i ask how to oc this potato chip.

 

[Crashman]

OK, you have the FC-PGA version of the Coppermine 600/133, properly the 600EB, which can be overclocked to the ability of the motherboard/memory to support higher bus speeds. Herein lies the problem-with most motherboards, you will run your memory at the same speed at the FSB. So to overclock the FSB to 150 means the memory on most motherboards will also run at 150. Most memory won't do this. Crucial will, but may need the Cas Latency set from 2 to 3. Of course, PC150 also will.
Second, you will likely need to raise the core voltage. if your motherboard does not support this, it can be done by modifying the voltage detection pins.
My suggestion is to not even try for 150FSB, but instead to get a PIII 700 and set it to 133FSB, thereby keeping the rest of the system stock while overclocking the 700 to 933.

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[xxsk8er101xx]

the memory big time.

the 200 you see on DDR boards is actually 400mhz because it's ddr, double data rate. your sdr board memory at 170mhz the memory is well 170mhz. big difference.

to lose the memory bottleneck why don't they just use QDR? heh...

Have fun!

 

[trusnoop]

AMD_man, crashman, and everybody thanks a lot.
I overclocked my cpu from 600 to 661 and got a mark of 2050.
Wow! The bottelneck was the cpu.