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February 6, 2013 12:59:15 AM

Hello all, I am planning on buying a Sager NP9150. If you could look over the specs and just give me your opinion on the design that would be great!

Display: 15.6" LED backlit super glossy (1920 x 1080)
Graphics Card: Nvidia GeForce GTX 675MX with 4GB of gddr5 video memory
Processor: Third gen i7 3630QM (6MB L3 Cache, 2.40GHz
Thermal Compound: IC Diamond CPU + GPU
OS: Windows 7 home premium (I like it more than 8)
Memory: 16 GB dual channel ddr3 (2 x 8GB) (Im not sure if the 2 x 8GB is better or 4 x 4GB. the 4gb option is cheaper. is it worth it to get the 8GB?)
Hard Disk: 1TB 5400 RPM SATA2
mSATA SSD Drive (intel SRT): Crucial 64 GB M4 series (i figure that this will make up for the hard drive being only 5400 rpm)
Optical drive: 6X blu ray reader/8X dvd with DL Super multi drive and software
networking: killer wireless-n 1103
chipset: intel hm77


comments or opinions?

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February 6, 2013 1:10:13 AM

forgot to mention the cost.

$1,759.00
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February 6, 2013 1:14:33 AM

Are you specifically going for a gaming laptop or are you open to making your own rig with that money?
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February 6, 2013 1:19:51 AM

cant you get laptops with 7970m's for that price?
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February 6, 2013 1:28:43 AM

hero1 said:
Are you specifically going for a gaming laptop or are you open to making your own rig with that money?


I'm looking for a laptop that can handle gaming without a problem as well as some schoolwork which mainly consists of word documents. I dont really want to customize anything on my own, as i have no experience and dont want to screw anything up
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February 6, 2013 1:30:25 AM

dudewitbow said:
cant you get laptops with 7970m's for that price?


well sager offers the 7970m but its $100 more expensive and i dont have the money. also its only 2 gb of video memory
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February 6, 2013 1:38:12 AM

nuteguy said:
well sager offers the 7970m but its $100 more expensive and i dont have the money. also its only 2 gb of video memory



unless you are heavily modding skyrim to oblivion, you shouldnt run into the 2gb limit. barely any games even come close to 2gb
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February 6, 2013 1:40:08 AM

dudewitbow said:
unless you are heavily modding skyrim to oblivion, you shouldnt run into the 2gb limit. barely any games even come close to 2gb


well either way i dont have the money. do you know how the 675mx does on most games?
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February 6, 2013 1:42:09 AM

dudewitbow said:
unless you are heavily modding skyrim to oblivion, you shouldnt run into the 2gb limit. barely any games even come close to 2gb


i c ur pun.
I lul'd more then i want to admit.
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February 6, 2013 1:48:10 AM

I'd like to own that (just wish screen was 17").
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February 6, 2013 1:48:35 AM

Making a rig is much easier than you think. We can help you out if you want. But if you're set for gaming laptop then go for that one. It seems pretty good. Or scale back on ram and get the 7970m
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February 6, 2013 1:49:53 AM

J_E_D_70 said:
I'd like to own that (just wish screen was 17").


Im pretty sure they have some 17" models. i prefer 15" because it is slightly more portable
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February 6, 2013 1:50:49 AM

hero1 said:
Making a rig is much easier than you think. We can help you out if you want. But if you're set for gaming laptop then go for that one. It seems pretty good. Or scale back on ram and get the 7970m


Yeah i think ill go with this. any comment on the 4 x 4GB vs the 2 x 8GB on ram? im not really sure what the difference is other than the price.
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February 6, 2013 1:52:50 AM

also, would the crucial 64gb ssd help out the 5400 rpm hard drive?
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February 6, 2013 1:53:38 AM

Last article i saw for dual channel showed 2x8 to be a tiny bit faster than 4x4. Something about splitting between the two banks. Still it was only measuable in benches. Go cheap.
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February 6, 2013 1:54:17 AM

I think 4x4 is usually couple bucks more than 2x8. So check the price when you're configuring it. Also 2x8 leaves more room to add more RAM later. 4x4 maxes out your RAM slots!
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February 6, 2013 1:55:29 AM

hero1 said:
I think 4x4 is usually couple bucks more than 2x8. So check the price when you're configuring it. Also 2x8 leaves more room to add more RAM later. 4x4 maxes out your RAM slots!


actually, the 4x4 is $30 cheaper. would there be any performance changes or is it just the maxed out ram slots?
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February 6, 2013 1:57:17 AM

Just maxed RAM slots.
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February 6, 2013 2:01:09 AM

hero1 said:
Just maxed RAM slots.


sounds good. i think ill go with the 4x4 then. itll give me an extra $30 for accessories. anything on the crucial ssd?
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February 6, 2013 2:01:46 AM

J_E_D_70 said:
Last article i saw for dual channel showed 2x8 to be a tiny bit faster than 4x4. Something about splitting between the two banks. Still it was only measuable in benches. Go cheap.


in that case ill go with the 4x4. thanks! anything on the crucial ssd?
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February 6, 2013 2:14:44 AM

nuteguy I would get the 7970m, drop the blu ray, get 2X4GB of ram. Screw the Intel SRT, get a primary SSD of 12*GB+. "Killer wireless N" also not necessary.
Do you want to be gaming on the move? Save yourself some money on certain items you will never use.

The options I would pick:
Display 15.6" Full HD LED-Backlit Display with Super Glossy Surface (1920 x 1080)
Video & Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD 7970M GPU with 2GB GDDR5 Video Memory [$200.00]
CPU Processor 3rd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-3630QM Processor ( 6MB L3 Cache, 2.40GHz)
Thermal Compound Stock Standard Thermal Compound
Operating System Genuine MS Windows® 8 64-Bit Edition
Memory 8GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz - 2 X 4GB
Primary Hard Disk Drive 256GB Crucial M4 Series SATA3 Solid State Disk Drive [$165.00]
mSATA SSD Drive — For Intel Smart Response Technology None
Optical Drive Bay — Optical Drive or Hard Disk Drive in Optical Drive Bay with Caddy case 8X DVD±R/RW/4X +DL Super-Multi Drive & Software
Wireless Network Card Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6235 - 802.11A/B/G/N Wireless LAN + Bluetooth Combo Module [$30.00]
Primary Battery Smart Li-ION Battery Pack
Integrated Security Device Fingerprint Reader
Microsoft Office Microsoft Office Starter 2010 / Office 2010 Trial - Included in Price
Warranty Sager 1 Year Limited Parts and Labor Warranty

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Now for my 2 cents, I would build a desktop that was $1200 and buy a $400-$500 laptop. The laptop would be thinner and more portable. The desktop would be pretty powerful with a larger screensize. If you are commuting to school or a desktop will not work, ignore this. Good Luck!
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February 6, 2013 2:16:16 AM

^ $1694
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February 6, 2013 2:16:26 AM

That's good enough for gaming laptop. You can get one with more space if you want but you have to cut cost somewhere.
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February 6, 2013 2:20:53 AM

skidawgz said:
nuteguy I would get the 7970m, drop the blu ray, get 2X4GB of ram. Screw the Intel SRT, get a primary SSD of 12*GB+. "Killer wireless N" also not necessary.
Do you want to be gaming on the move? Save yourself some money on certain items you will never use.

The options I would pick:
Display 15.6" Full HD LED-Backlit Display with Super Glossy Surface (1920 x 1080)
Video & Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD 7970M GPU with 2GB GDDR5 Video Memory [$200.00]
CPU Processor 3rd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-3630QM Processor ( 6MB L3 Cache, 2.40GHz)
Thermal Compound Stock Standard Thermal Compound
Operating System Genuine MS Windows® 8 64-Bit Edition
Memory 8GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz - 2 X 4GB
Primary Hard Disk Drive 256GB Crucial M4 Series SATA3 Solid State Disk Drive [$165.00]
mSATA SSD Drive — For Intel Smart Response Technology None
Optical Drive Bay — Optical Drive or Hard Disk Drive in Optical Drive Bay with Caddy case 8X DVD±R/RW/4X +DL Super-Multi Drive & Software
Wireless Network Card Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6235 - 802.11A/B/G/N Wireless LAN + Bluetooth Combo Module [$30.00]
Primary Battery Smart Li-ION Battery Pack
Integrated Security Device Fingerprint Reader
Microsoft Office Microsoft Office Starter 2010 / Office 2010 Trial - Included in Price
Warranty Sager 1 Year Limited Parts and Labor Warranty

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Now for my 2 cents, I would build a desktop that was $1200 and buy a $400-$500 laptop. The laptop would be thinner and more portable. The desktop would be pretty powerful with a larger screensize. If you are commuting to school or a desktop will not work, ignore this. Good Luck!


Thank you for the reply but i dont have the room for a desktop. I need this laptop to handle everything i throw at is. also, the blu ray is needed for me incase i want to watch any movies. i see a need for the killer N, as most of the time i will be on a wireless connection. speed is everything so i think that will help. once again, thank you :) 
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February 6, 2013 2:25:46 AM

hero1 said:
That's good enough for gaming laptop. You can get one with more space if you want but you have to cut cost somewhere.


awesome. Thank you so much for all the help! :D 
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February 6, 2013 2:26:04 AM

hero1 said:
That's good enough for gaming laptop. You can get one with more space if you want but you have to cut cost somewhere.


awesome. Thank you so much for all the help! :D 
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February 6, 2013 2:26:33 AM

OK, no problem, well certainly add the Blu Ray back in, and "Killer N" is just a different brand. What type of environment will this laptop be gaming at? I go to Drexel University, no campus wireless (with all those shared connections) will ever utilize your wireless card fully. Now if it is your home connection that is a different story, but your router must also be up to task.

the 5400 RPM hard drive is the big mistake. Windows 8 is rather impressive when installed on an SSD primary. My desktop is an i5-3570k w/ an Intel 520 and its unbelievably peppy.
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February 6, 2013 2:29:47 AM

skidawgz said:
OK, no problem, well certainly add the Blu Ray back in, and "Killer N" is just a different brand. What type of environment will this laptop be gaming at? I go to Drexel University, no campus wireless (with all those shared connections) will ever utilize your wireless card fully. Now if it is your home connection that is a different story, but your router must also be up to task.

the 5400 RPM hard drive is the big mistake. Windows 8 is rather impressive when installed on an SSD primary. My desktop is an i5-3570k w/ an Intel 520 and its unbelievably peppy.


well ill be at home so ill pretty much only be using wireless. i may invest in a router later on. i would rather avoid windows 8. my mom has it on her desktop and i tried it out and i just dont like it that much. i do need 1TB of hard drive disk space though. This laptop will need to last me for quite a while and ill need a lot of space. i could go down to 750gb but i really dont see why i would need to
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February 6, 2013 2:40:24 AM

Sorry, on fast read I didn't see you dont like Win 8. 5400RPM is a huge bottleneck for gaming, everything..... You should do a primary SSD and a secondary 5400 or get an external. Or an external BD writer/reader? Not sure if you have the space for that. Again, just my opinion but I think the HDD can really cripple a nice build.

yeah, the price of a killer N vs a centrino isn't large enough for me to be concerned, but remember your router has to be on par with your wirless card.
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February 6, 2013 2:44:09 AM

masterman467 said:
i c ur pun.
I lul'd more then i want to admit.



to be honest, that pun was 100% unintential and you pointed out something i accidentally made.
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February 6, 2013 2:54:52 AM

skidawgz said:
Sorry, on fast read I didn't see you dont like Win 8. 5400RPM is a huge bottleneck for gaming, everything..... You should do a primary SSD and a secondary 5400 or get an external. Or an external BD writer/reader? Not sure if you have the space for that. Again, just my opinion but I think the HDD can really cripple a nice build.

yeah, the price of a killer N vs a centrino isn't large enough for me to be concerned, but remember your router has to be on par with your wirless card.


so would it be better to go with a 750GB hdd and then get an external hard drive if i need it later on? that would bump the rpm up to 7200 and then the intel srt would only help. i read reviews that said boot times dropped and all of the processes were much faster.
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February 6, 2013 3:05:39 AM

I would wait for some other users to ring in on this, but anything is better than a 5400RPM. My main concern is your games being bottlenecked, not so much boot times. So yes, the 750GB would be better, and an SSD is best. A 2TB external USB 3.0 HDD is probably a lot cheaper, if the type of data you store are just media files (music, movies).

An SSD will use less power, less heat, less noise, faster. No moving parts are less sensitive to physical shock. Just throwing more ideas out there.
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February 6, 2013 3:09:58 AM

skidawgz said:
I would wait for some other users to ring in on this, but anything is better than a 5400RPM. My main concern is your games being bottlenecked, not so much boot times. So yes, the 750GB would be better, and an SSD is best. A 2TB external USB 3.0 HDD is probably a lot cheaper, if the type of data you store are just media files (music, movies).

An SSD will use less power, less heat, less noise, faster. No moving parts are less sensitive to physical shock. Just throwing more ideas out there.


I think ill go with the 750 gb. the ssd would be better with the less power, heat.... all the stuff you said but they get pricy quickly. and i dont really want to take an external hard drive with me everywhere i go. with the 750 gb i can get an external hdd if i need it whereas with the ssd, i would definitely need it.
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February 6, 2013 3:12:04 AM

so now i could technically spend another $50 or so on components but i dont really see anything i would need
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February 6, 2013 3:12:40 AM

i might just save it for a new router or laptop accessory
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February 7, 2013 12:13:30 AM

So here is my revised decision:

Display: 15.6" LED backlit super glossy (1920 x 1080)
Graphics Card: Nvidia GeForce GTX 675MX with 4GB of gddr5 video memory
Processor: Third gen i7 3630QM (6MB L3 Cache, 2.40GHz)
Thermal Compound: IC Diamond CPU + GPU
OS: Windows 7 home premium (I like it more than 8)
Memory: 16 GB dual channel ddr3 (4 x 4GB)
Hard Disk: 750GB 7200 RPM SATA2
mSATA SSD Drive (intel SRT): Crucial 64 GB M4 series
Optical drive: 6X blu ray reader/8X dvd with DL Super multi drive and software
networking: killer wireless-n 1103
chipset: intel hm77

price: $1,700
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February 7, 2013 1:53:27 AM

this is a customized sager np9150. feel free to comment your opinion
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February 7, 2013 11:49:12 PM

Dont buy that one, they have the np9150 Special edition on sale right now for $1670. the Special edition has the 680m GPU. WAAAYYYYYY superior to the 675mx. It aslo includes all the upgrades such as the thermal compound, killer 1103 network card, blue ray drive, etc.

However, it comes with the 750GB 7200 rpm hard drive, which is what I'd rather have anyways compared to 5400rpm + ssd cache. If you want pure performance, drop the regular HDD and add the 256 GB crucial m4 for $165. Total then becomes $1830.

Do you really need more than 256gb storage on a laptop? I have a 250 GB SSD in my laptop and it still has 180GB free... But even if you do need more space, use the mSata port for additional HDD or carry along an external drive.

http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np9150-clevo-p150em-specia...
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