TNT2 m64 3dmark 2000!

[Marvelii]

I finally got my computer to reach 1297 in 3d mark 2000(1024x768x16) without overclocking anything just tweaking on the motherboard and 3d card! u might think its low but im running on a gigabyte ga-5aa w/k62 500mhz, tnt2 m64 w/voodoo2 and 128pc100. anyone with more or less the same specs as me get better results? i need to know. im getting 25-30fps on unreal tournament(running on glide)! for a low end pc im really impressed. what u guys think?

 

[AMD_Man]

Try removing the Voodoo2 and see if your 3D performance improves or worsens.

AMD technology + Intel technology = Intel/AMD Pentathlon IV; the <b>ULTIMATE</b> PC processor

 

[AEboy128]

Hey dude what det. drivers are you using?? I have the same card in my Athlon 1.1ghz. I get 2500 without o'cin the card. That is pretty good performance outta that old sys.

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[Marvelii]

im usin 1241 whql drivers from nvidia.

 

[rcf84]

I pulled a 1000 with a Savage 4 32mb AGP and a K6-2 300. Not bad played games good at 640x480.

Nice Nvidia and ATi users get a Cookie.... Yummy

 

[phsstpok]

When I was using my K6-2, 400mhz, with Geforce256 SDR as my primary system I was getting about 950 in 3DMark2000. Just, for fun I set the system up again but installed the latest Via drivers (I needed to dig for the 3-in-1 drivers not the infamous 4-in-1's) and newer nVidia drivers(14.10). Now it scores 1914, default benchmark, no video overclocking (not that it would help on my slow system). I haven't had a chance to try the 21.81 Detonators.

I don't know if the newest drivers will do anything for a TNT2 card.

One key to performance, though, is to get AGP really working. Something I wasn't able to do a year ago. Actually, I didn't even have the tools to determine if AGP was working back then. WCPUID, PowerStrip, and GeforceTweak can determine this. I'm not sure about SiSoft Sandra which may just read BIOS settings without determining if AGP is working. By the way, when AGP is not functioning properly your video card operates in PCI mode, slow, slow, slow.

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Would you like a Quarter Pounder?
No, thank you. Just give me the BIG heatsink. It's an Athlon.

 

[Marvelii]

i jus got up to 1336 by setting the sdram aparature size to 256 thats a huge increase from 1297. it jus keeps getting better and better

 

[Marvelii]

so having a geforce256 increased ur 3dmark. wow how does adventure games(max payne if u played it) run in ur pc at high detail? im goin to get a duron 800mhz but i want 2 buy a videocard 4 my k62 also for descent gaming for my bro to play.

 

[AEboy128]

If i get a chance i'll try some older drivers because i heard that in some cases the older drivers are better for different cards. Currently i have the new ones 2190 or something like that.

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[Marvelii]

i upgraded to the new detanator xp drivers and my 3dmark went all the way to 1237!

 

[phsstpok]

so having a geforce256 increased ur 3dmark

No, as I mentioned, I got a score of 950 and a year later I am getting 1914, all with the same Geforce256. My point is, that new drivers and a lot more knowledge got me the signifcantly better score.



In addition to new drivers these are things that made my scores better. PC133 memory. It's still clocked at 100mhz but is much more stable than my pre-PC100 memory. The new memory also allows more aggressive memory timings, CAS2, 4-way interleave, turbo timing, etc. I also used 256mb vs. 96mb. I'm using a beefier 300watt, ATX PSU compared to the origin 235 watt AT unit. This makes the troublesome, power hungry Geforce256 more stable. Mostly though, the new drivers made the biggest speed improvement.

how does adventure games(max payne if u played it) run in ur pc at high detail?

I don't play games on the K6-2. I just threw it back together to see if I could improve on my old benchmarks. The Geforce256 is now back in my Duron system.

As for Max Payne there is no way that my K6-2 system could handle it with high detail. My Duron at 1007mhz just manages 30 frames per second framerates with the Max Payne demo. That with LOD all at high except 16-bit textures (vs 32-bit), no antialiasing, no anisotropy. That's at 1024x768, 32-bit colors. Dropping down to 800x600 raises the framerates to a whopping 35. Both resolution's are playable, barely.

A new video card is not going to do much for you K6-2. It won't be signifcantly faster at the resolution you are using (maybe a little faster). The rest of the system is the limiting factor. More tweaking may help there.

As for a new system, you are obviously on a budget (like me). If you can, go for a 900mhz Athlon instead of the 800mhz Duron. Even overclocked to 1000mz, a Duron is only equal to an 800-850mhz Athlon in performance. The 900mhz Athlon is definitely worth the $15-20 increase. Better still, get a 1ghz Athlon if you can. I realize that they are about $50 more than a 800mhz Duron but they are a great value because they are very overclockable.

Good luck.

Would you like a Quarter Pounder?
No, thank you. Just give me the BIG heatsink. It's an Athlon.

 

[Marvelii]

thanx alot for the info. ill take ur advice on the athlon. i understand a little bit better now.

 

[AEboy128]

How do i make sure my agp is working?? Under the Tinted2's properties it said "PCI mode" for the bus it's on... But it's an AGP card.

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[phsstpok]

You need to load the AGP drivers for your motherboard to use AGP. What chipset do you have? Your rig information just says, "Compaq (FIC)". You probably need to check in at the Compaq website.

Would you like a Quarter Pounder?
No, thank you. Just give me the BIG heatsink. It's an Athlon.

 

[AEboy128]

It's the compaq version of the fic AZ-11. I have the drivers for my AGP installed. Maybe the m64 is too crappy to know that it's an AGP card. lol

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[phsstpok]

OK, The AZ11 has the KT-133 chipset, just like my Abit KT7. I recommend downloading and installing the latest Via 4-in-1 drivers, now at version 4.33v. When you install them make sure you enable Turbo mode for AGP which will allow AGP 2X and 4X modes. Without Turbo mode your video card is limited to AGP 1X.

Get the driver from the link below. You'll find the driver at Step 2. (Sorry, a direct link didn't seem to work).

<A HREF="http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=2" target="_new">http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=2</A>

<b>UPDATE: To all thinking of installing the 4.33v driver, At least two systems with the KT133 chipset, mine included, have had problems. Please read my other post before installing.</b>

Would you like a Quarter Pounder?
No, thank you. Just give me the BIG heatsink. It's an Athlon.<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by phsstpok on 09/24/01 10:36 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[AEboy128]

ahh!! It won't install! I'm running win2k. It said it'd work. When i ran 3dmark 2000 it just exited the program instead of giving me a score bringing me to my desktop. Why did it do that??

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[phsstpok]

Whoa! My bad!!!

I installed 4.33v two days ago and wasn't aware of any problems. After reading your message I tried 3DMark2000 and I got a Visual C++ runtime error followed by a corrupted display and a hard crash!

I didn't understand this because my system had been working and I played games during the last two days. When I realized that it was DirectX titles that weren't working I tried reinstalling DirectX. No go! Next, I reloaded the nVidia 21.81 detonators. <b>That did it!!!!</b> Everything is working fine.

I'm not sure I trust the 4.33v 4-in-1 drivers but I'll continue using them for a while.

Try reloading your video drivers before doing anything else.

By the way, I use Win98SE.

This is what I get recommending something before fully testing. I just assumed that since the drivers are official I wouldn't have any problems. Sorry, for the trouble.


Would you like a Quarter Pounder?
No, thank you. Just give me the BIG heatsink. It's an Athlon.<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by phsstpok on 09/24/01 10:38 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[AEboy128]

You might wanna try the 5.33 det. drivers. I reached 1698 with a slower system than yours. I ran the 5.33 det. drivers on a:

k6-3 400 @ 420 (105fsb)
ASUS p5a
Riva TNT2m64 16mb AGP
128mb pc133 @100 @ cas-2
15gb 7200rpm ata66 @ ata33-it's all the P5-A supports
Netgear fa-311 pci nic
SB AW64 ISA sound card

It's running winME and i installed the 5.33 det. drivers after the AGP drivers. Give it a shot.


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