Radeon 8500 beats the GF3 Ti500 in 3dmark2k1

[rcf84]

<A HREF="http://www.chip.de/news_stories/news_stories_8595824.html" target="_new">http://www.chip.de/news_stories/news_stories_8595824.html</A>

Well it seem the Radeon 8500 is the 3dmark 2k1 champ. Also the other benches show its can keep up to the GF3 Ti500. I told you all the Radeon 8500 is a fast card.

Better yet it has Smoothvision, Truform and a load of DirectX 8.1 features that aren't on the GF3 Ti500. Also the Radeon 8500 Image is top notch. I was right from the beginning. I was only telling the truth whiched you bashed me for.

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3DMark 2001
Auflösung, Farbtiefe: 640 x 480, 16 Bit:
Radeon 8500: 8573 3DMarks
GeForce3 Ti/500: 7578 3DMarks
GeForce3: 7200 3DMarks
Radeon 7500: 4693 3DMarks

Auflösung, Farbtiefe: 1.024 x 768, 32 Bit
Radeon 8500: 7426 3DMarks
GeForce3 Ti/500: 6820 3DMarks
GeForce3: 6391 3DMarks
Radeon 7500: 4141 3DMarks

Auflösung, Farbtiefe: 1.600 x 1.200, 32 Bit
Radeon 8500: 5146 3DMarks
GeForce3 Ti/500: 4905 3DMarks
GeForce3: 4332 3DMarks
Radeon 7500: 2937 3DMarks
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[rcf84]

hmmm... Well ????

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[Teknoman]

im gonna wait for one more bench then im gonna buy it because its about $250 thats almost $150 bucks cheaper then the ti500 and original geforce 3

 

[flamethrower205]

Sorry RCF, that doesn't prove to me it's better. Need more benches, and quite frankly, I don't care about 3D Mark score, as that isn't realy life. Plus, my GF3 is turned into Quadro DCC, and with Elsa Maxtreme, radeon 8500 won't be able to outperform it.

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[somerandomguy]

Is that the release version? Does this mean that ATI have finished on their drivers?

"Ignorance is bliss, but I tend to get screwed over."

 

[rcf84]

Well alot of German sites are going to start soon. I dont know about THG or Anand's reviews there is always something. I look at smaller sites too. Well Tomshardware.de Radeon 7500 benches look alot different to Rivastation.com Benches. Well Chips.de is a big German hardware site where i got it from. Clearly shows both chips in a free for all.

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[rcf84]

yeah, i think there getting drivers a small tweak or there still making them. Seems @ $300 for newly released card compared to the GF3 Ti500 could get pretty deaming.

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[rcf84]

You never know if the Radeon 8500 can turn into the FireGL 8800. You gotta think about HyperZ II, its 8.8gb's without it enabled. Also Overclocking 3.6ns Ram to 300(600) DDR could be a factor too.

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[Teknoman]

i dont really know that much about really life benchs but i do know i play Max payne and one of the benchs is that engine and 3dmark2k1 are real benchs(thats why they ussually come out with one every year to keep up). well i agree with u im gonna wait for a couple more benchs, but its starting to look like the cpu wars (is $200 extra worth 5-10 frames better). things are gonna get very interesting though. i sure hope ati woops the crap out of nvidia i want some damn price wars.

 

[rcf84]

Well i hope see some imported Gigabyte 7500 cards soon. Well when ATi wins some OEM's over its low low low pricing. Well if ATi wins more market lower it is for us. Well at $300 is a F'n steal.

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[phsstpok]

Hey, 7426 3Dmarks!!! That's with an Athlon 1.2 and the 8500 is stock clocked!!!!!!

<b>101 FPS</b> in Quake III Arena, Demo001 <b>at 1600x1200x32-bits</b>!

<b>I WANT ONE!!!!!</b>

Would you like a Quarter Pounder?
No, thank you. Just give me the BIG heatsink. It's an Athlon.

 

[Matisaro]

Nice link, now we have one set which show the radeon losing, and one which show the radeon winning, we need more.

RCF, this is to you.

I did not bash you, I merely posted benchmark links, I made no comment. If you have a problem with me private message me and we will work it out.

I am planning on buying a radeon8500 myself! Giving my gf3 to my wife. Why do you take my benchmark postings so personal, and invade the cpu forum and call me a zealot and attack me?

~Matisaro~
"The Cash Left In My Pocket,The BEST Benchmark"
~Tbird1.3@1.5~

 

[Matisaro]

By the way, those benchmarks show the radeon losing EVERY ONE, except 3dmark2001, it takes a tad more than one benchmark to call a card superior. However, the price is deffinatly in ati's corner, lets see what happens when the 8500 is released.

~Matisaro~
"The Cash Left In My Pocket,The BEST Benchmark"
~Tbird1.3@1.5~

 

[Crashman]

Yes, it looks like the Radeon 8500 <b>ASSRAPES</b> the GeForce 3 and the TI500 in 3DMark 2001, and falls between the GF3 and TI500 in older benchmarks (those that don't use DX8 features). Very nice. I bet it wins a buch more DX8 enabled benchmarks. 3DMark 2001 is a good indication of DX8 performance.

Back to you Tom...

 

[Matisaro]

I would hardly call those results assraping crash, but the radeon looks like a very nice card.

~Matisaro~
"The Cash Left In My Pocket,The BEST Benchmark"
~Tbird1.3@1.5~

 

[Crashman]

The GeForce 3 is cobbled together and unrefined like a $2000 hotrod. And like the $2000 hot rod, it wins a lot of races, but it don't look pretty doing it! But here's the fun part-this is the FIRST version of this card. nVidia is already on their SECOND version. Now nVidia has to rush something out to counter the attack. And then ATI will release THEIR second version. Heck, by the time I upgrade my computer, these things will be powerfull enough to animate and entire "toy story" like film in real time!

Back to you Tom...

 

[Matisaro]

Ahhh the nature of this industry, I love it.

~Matisaro~
"The Cash Left In My Pocket,The BEST Benchmark"
~Tbird1.3@1.5~

 

[killall]

you call that proof?

if in doubt blame microsoft...

 

[Matisaro]

I just thought of another thing about rcf's post and my post(both with benchmarks). The title of my post says merely, radeon 8500 vs gf3 ti 500 benchmarks, and yet he calls me a zealot when his very own post title screams prejudgement.(even when his own link has some 7 benchmarks with 6 losses to radeon8500.)

Rcf has posted in other threads attacking me for my "zealotry" I was highly offended by his attack on me in an unrelated cpu thread, and I demand an applolgy from him. I have never attacked him and have always let it be known I respect his oppinions. Apparently because I post links to benchmarks and ask him for his comments specifically(because he is the biggest ati fan on the boards) I am a zealot. I find the truth and I think many agree, to be that his rabid defence of ati clearly marks him as the zealot.

~Matisaro~
"The Cash Left In My Pocket,The BEST Benchmark"
~Tbird1.3@1.5~

 

[killall]

agreed

if in doubt blame microsoft...

 

[Guest]

Ok, at the risk of utter political incorrectness:

(please understand this post is not directed at </b>ANY</b> individual......)

Do you guyz sell these things and need the commission to feed your kids? Are you at risk of loosing a highly paid position in sales & marketing?

************* <b>OR</b> *****************


Are your egos so totally out of control and your insecurities so deep that posts like this are necessary to let you feel good about where you have placed your hard earned $$

<b>FOR GOD'S SAKE, DAZZLE US WITH BRILLIANCE, CAUZ THE BULLPOOPIE ISN'T BAFFLING ANYONE!</b>

 

[killall]

moo

if in doubt blame microsoft...

 

[Oni]

rcf = the fanatic.
Matisaro simply wants be better price/performance ration as SHOULD any smart consumer. No one should want to buy a similar product rediculously priced. Now its looking like Nvidia is going to be expensive and ATi will be the under dog taking the cake.
I'm the same way, if Pentium 4 did what I needed, and had a better price/performance ratio I'd buy it, but thats not the case.

 

[flamethrower205]

RCF, 3D S Max, doesn't care about RAM speed. It cares about processing power, and when max gets optimized for Quadro DCC, which is more powerful than GF3 in teh first place, it really goes fast. Good thing Gf3 can be turned into Quadro, making it faster, but what really plays a role in max is teh Maxtreme drivers.

U got a problem?! Then dial 1800-328-7448!

 

[rcf84]

Yeah nice and hacked up. Well one thing i want to now. Why the hell do they hold back 3d textures well the Current GF3 users can use it. Easily Say its a new feature in the GF3 Ti series making it seem like a new core. Its simply a over clocked and lower clocked GF3. Well now yeah thats good. Well i guess you like companys that force 3rd partys make are cards or we cut you off totally *example: PowerColor*. Well i hope the Gigabyte Radeon 7500 will sell alot cuz nvidia is rumored to cutt there supply.

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