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Crashman   10-19-2001 at 07:59:12 AM

Official ruling-XP is harder to use than either 98SE or 2000 and is a little slower at running applications than either. But eventually it will be the only game in town. Microsoft has a habbit of releasing a second edition of everything that puts the original version to shame. So when does this happen with XP?

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zpyrd   10-19-2001 at 11:47:47 AM
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September 23rd 2002

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FatBurger   10-19-2001 at 08:44:49 PM
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It's the NT kernel, so it'll probably have about 23.1 Service Packs :)

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MadCat   10-19-2001 at 10:11:18 PM
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And lots of security issues I'm sure. My NT servers in my office at work was recently infected by the Nimda virus. Bad virus that just seems to hang around.

I believe I may have been attacked through file shares, Microsoft Outlook, and IIS vunerabilities. I take anti-virus measures seriously now. One of my server caught it about two weeks ago, then my other server caught it this week (through insecure file shares). But I was ready this time!

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Crashman   10-20-2001 at 06:41:46 AM
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Didn't Microsoft tell you about the superiority of WMA? One of it's new features is that for some sound files you cannot record them on one computer and play them on another!

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Crashman   10-20-2001 at 11:26:39 AM
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No, I've had this title for a while now.

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Crashman   10-20-2001 at 01:08:12 PM
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Part of Microsoft's initialtive to stop coppywrite fraud.

Back to you Tom...

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ejsmith2   10-20-2001 at 07:58:05 PM
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Hmmmm...

Win98=Win95 service pack 2
Winme=Win98 service pack 2
win2k=Winnt4.0 service pack 8 (9? 10? whatever...)
Winxp=win2k service pack 3
WinWhistler=winxp service pack 3?



14 Months?

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ejsmith2   10-21-2001 at 03:14:49 AM
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"This all concludes that M$ is sh*t right?!"

Just their marketing practices. But, technically speaking, their marketing practices rule because that's what made them as powerful as they are today.

Survival of the Fittest?

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dhlucke   10-21-2001 at 10:47:05 AM
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Crashman, you've been around long enough to see me bash Microsoft a number of times, but now I'm finally thrilled to have XP. If I had some kind of problem with 98 (missed a major tweak...) let me know, or if 2000 was really that big of an improvement over 98 (I have 2000 but have never installed it), let me know. I'm really curious how XP can suck so bad according to you.

Some manufacturers are being sh1t boxes by not releasing drivers until the 25th, but beyond that I'm really pleased with XP.

As far as a second edition, you might be right, but I never care since I get the software for free, but beyond having the drivers on the XP cd I don't see what more they really can do in the immediate future.

If we want to argue Microsoft's right to integrate everything into the OS, then that's a totally different story. I am not thrilled with any of microsoft's methods, but at least it all works this time around.

<font color=red>God</font color=red> <font color=blue>Bless</font color=blue> <font color=red>America!</font color=red>

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Crashman   10-21-2001 at 10:04:05 PM
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I build my systems around 98SE because it's easy to use/modify/tweak. Is there really an improvement in XP over 2000? I haven't seen one. All I saw was up to 20% slower benchmarks than in 98SE, and the absence of support for many of my cards and programs. And a revised GUI that makes it harder to find things.

Back to you Tom...

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dhlucke   10-21-2001 at 10:20:35 PM
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This debate is circular, but I'll just note the obvious: the OS hasn't even been released yet, thus not all drivers have been released. Add to that the fact that only beta testers are complaining about a BETA copy and I think it's only fair to wait until people are using the retail version. People using a pirated version will just have to take what they can get.

Either way, this thread belongs in the XP section.

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Crashman   10-21-2001 at 10:56:11 PM
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As to the first part, many of my cards don't even have 2k drivers, and more don't have XP drivers. I doubt the ones that lack 2k support will get XP support.
As to the second part, your right!

Back to you Tom...

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wapaaga   10-22-2001 at 02:57:11 AM
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yeh the thing i don't like about it is that they tried to make it so dumby proof. this cause the hole thing to become much harder to use. like the fact tha you can't delet teh msn messenger file,( that gets called up every time you start outlok express)< so yuo have to rename it.

i gusses it would be fine for a regualr user but somebody that want to really use it won't like it


also surprised me how much it was like linux. i mean the alot of tneh gui stuff has is like it. like with all the windows convering to one. you can tell that it was bassicaly copied off of other os out there for a good chunk of it

<font color=red>Gasoline + Fire</font color=red><font color=green> Can be a lot of fun</font color=green> :smile: :smile: :smile:

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dhlucke   10-22-2001 at 07:16:04 AM
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In the xp section someone gave this <A HREF="http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=33&threadid=595846&highlight_key=y&keyword1=Windows Messenger" target="_new">link of tips</A> from anand. I haven't played with any of it yet, but a quick look gives me hope that tweaking the OS won't be too bad...



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dhlucke   10-22-2001 at 07:22:20 AM
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run gpedit.msc

Local Computer Policy/Computer Configuration/administrative templates/
windows components/windows messenger

Just enable the option "Do not allow windows messenger to be run"

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Yahiko81   10-23-2001 at 07:02:51 AM
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Linux is free, but if you want it on cd and instruction manuals then you will have to pay for it. You're really paying for the packaging and the book not the software.

Nice <b><font color=green>Lizards</b></font color=green> <b>crunch</b> Trolls cookies....... :smile: Yummy!! :smile:

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wapaaga   10-24-2001 at 01:35:57 AM
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i just went and renamed it and now it dosen't come up any more

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ejsmith2   10-24-2001 at 07:34:02 AM
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Wusy, you've got to be fuming right now. An OS that you *cannot* possibly pirate.

But you can download it, burn it to disk, and <b>tell</b> everyone you pirated it, if it would make you feel better...

Rich is the nation that has many war heroes. Long since forgotten...

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Yahiko81   10-24-2001 at 05:12:48 PM
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Actually you can pirate it. You just have to have the select version. It's the same as the others but you don't have to register it.

Nice <b><font color=green>Lizards</b></font color=green> <b>crunch</b> Trolls cookies....... :smile: Yummy!! :smile:

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FatBurger   10-24-2001 at 05:52:10 PM
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Yeup, I'm getting a copy of that, some friends have been running it for a week or so now.

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dhlucke   10-25-2001 at 07:13:53 AM
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Do you have a computer that will run it?

<font color=red>God</font color=red> <font color=blue>Bless</font color=blue> <font color=red>America!</font color=red>

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camieabz   10-25-2001 at 07:49:35 AM
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If I remember correctly you pay for any tech support too. The beauty of Linux is you can mess with it, submit your messings and maybe they'll be adopted next release.

<b><font color=blue>~scribble~</font color=blue></b> :wink:

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FatBurger   10-25-2001 at 07:36:27 PM
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Right, and since wusy is an assembly programmer, he can do that... :)

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9/11 - RIP</font color=green>

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