Download the Tom's Hardware App from the App Store
The reference for current tech news
Yes No
Ads
Tom's Hardware > Forum > News & Leisure > The Arts > Brain Teaser - Aviators and Aviation Experts please read only

Brain Teaser - Aviators and Aviation Experts please read only

Forum News & Leisure : The Arts Brain Teaser - Aviators and Aviation Experts please read only

Word :    Username :           
 

An aircraft is ready for take off and sits at the end of the runway. The runway however is a conveyor belt and is programmed to run backwards at twice the rate of the aircraft's ground speed.

Will the aircraft take off and fly?


Message edited by oldmangamer_73 on 09-21-2011 at 08:21:11 PM
Reply to oldmangamer_73
Register or log in to remove.
- 0 +
------------------------------ "To better understand why you need a personal computer, let's take a look at the pathetic mess you call your life."
Reply to badge

yes--because the thrust of the engines is against the air not the ground

Reply to mcnumpty23
- 0 +

Depends on what the air is doing. So if it's a perfectly still day, the net effect is that the aircraft will be experiencing a tail-wind equal to its ground-speed:

Forward Speed = GS (GS=Ground Speed)
Conveyor Speed / Tail Wind = -2GS

Air Speed = Forward Speed + Tail Wind = -GS

In this case, the aircraft won't take-off.

Reply to diellur

If I get this one wrong, my physics teacher will slaughter me, lol... No, because there's no lift force acting on the aircraft due to the lack of incoming air - lift is generated by the motion of the aircraft through the air and since the aircraft is not moving forward thanks to the conveyor belt... :)

Message quoted 1 times
Message edited by amk-aka-phantom on 09-21-2011 at 09:51:46 PM
Reply to amk-aka-phantom
- 0 +

amk-aka-phantom wrote :

lift is generated by the motion of the aircraft through the air



Not quite. Lift is generated by the relative motion of air over a wing. It's perfectly possible (and happens sometimes with light aircraft parked on the apron) for a strong wind to cause a stationary aircraft to lift. It's also how they do wind tunnel testing...the aerofoil section is stationary and they blow air over it.

Reply to diellur

haven't you guys ever watched Myth Busters ?

Reply to swifty_morgan

The wheels of a plane are free spinning so the force exerted by the conveyor belt on the plane itself is minimal since there is little friction in the wheels to transfer the force back to the plane, thus the force from the engines is the dominate force and the plane will fly like normal.


And now i feel the need to go rewatch that mythbusters.

------------------------------ A man who knows how little he knows is well, a man who knows how much he knows is sick.
Single 12V rail or multiple 12V rails?
Reply to hunter315

It depends on how high the conveyor belt is
If its high enough, the plane will certainly fly off the end of the conveyor belt and for an instant, be in the air, backwards

------------------------------ If we lose this freedom of ours, history will record with the greatest astonishment, those who had the most to lose, did the least to prevent its happening
Reply to JAYDEEJOHN
- 0 +

If the jet engines are not going then it is going nowhere despite what conveyor belt speed as the wheels of the plane are freewheeling (with only brakes) so it will just site there ... unless you put the brakes on in which cas it will shoot backward pushing the plane backwards to the beginning of the runway (or nunway) where it will crash off the start of the conveyor belts.

------------------------------ http://www.reverbnation.com/ofhoovesandhorn

Reply to REYNOD

mcnumpty was the first but hunter315 explained it pretty well.

A plane flys through the air, even when on the ground. It doesn't matter how fast the wheels spin backwards, it will still accelerate until enough lift is generated to take off.

Crap, I should have made this a question so I could award forum whore points with the best answer.


Message edited by oldmangamer_73 on 09-22-2011 at 02:58:32 PM
Reply to oldmangamer_73
- 0 +

I think you screwed the question up.

Next time be more specific so there are less variables.

------------------------------ http://www.reverbnation.com/ofhoovesandhorn

Reply to REYNOD
Register or log in to remove.
Tom's Hardware > Forum > News & Leisure > The Arts > Brain Teaser - Aviators and Aviation Experts please read only
Go to:

There are 2376 identified and unidentified users. To see the list of identified users, Click here.

Please mind

You are about to answer a thread that has been inactive for more than 6 months.
If you still wish to proceed, please ensure that your posting is original and does not duplicate or overlap any prior responses to this thread.

Add a reply Cancel
  • Ask the community now
  • Publish
Ad
Ads
Latest best answer
Red Hat: SOPA Threatens Innovation, Economic Growth
By COLGeek, 127 days ago:

I am anti-PIPA and anti-SOPA. These misguided pieces of legislation will do irreparable...

Best offers
They won a badge
Join us in greeting them