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Anonymous
June 23, 2005 11:14:35 PM

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I'm sure everyone has seen these by now, they've replaced the 'wonder
joys' at our local mall, and are all over e-bay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=...

(just a sample pulled at random)

Has anyone tried these? Obviously, the ability to play NES games in a
top loading system WITH a/v cables is what i'm aiming for. I recently
took my original NES apart, cleaned the hell out of it and even
plugging carts directly into it with the 'push down' system removed,
it's stll blue screen madness most of the time.

I actually own a top loader (bought it new for $50 back in the day) but
that only has R/F outs which just about kills the usefullness of a
'plug n' play' setup for me.

Anyway, are these worth the $30 or so? They guy at the mall SWORE it
wouldn't play NES or Famicom games, saying 'oh if it did nintendo would
sue!' I guess the 110 multicart he sells with the with 20 variants of
SMB is totally OK though.. whatever.

= numsix
= http://www.villagebbs.com
June 24, 2005 1:46:06 AM

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> Has anyone tried these?

I have one and use it often. It's a Yobo. It rocks. It's small and sexy...
it has original NES controller ports so you can use real NES controllers
(light guns, peripherals, etc) on it. Well worth $30.

The other guy who replied to your post said he needed an adapter to play NES
games... mine says "USA Version" on the box and plays NES carts natively -
meaning I don't need an adapter to play my NES games. I *would* need an
adapter to play famicom games on it. So it sounds like he has the asian
version.

I paid $30 at a local game store in Los Angeles.

> They guy at the mall SWORE it
> wouldn't play NES or Famicom games, saying 'oh if it did nintendo would
> sue!'

He's smoking plastic. It plays NES games if it says "USA Version" on the
box.
June 24, 2005 6:33:07 AM

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Jack (www.villagebbs.com) wrote:
> I'm sure everyone has seen these by now, they've replaced the 'wonder
> joys' at our local mall, and are all over e-bay:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=...
>
> (just a sample pulled at random)
>
> Has anyone tried these? Obviously, the ability to play NES games in a
> top loading system WITH a/v cables is what i'm aiming for. I recently
> took my original NES apart, cleaned the hell out of it and even
> plugging carts directly into it with the 'push down' system removed,
> it's stll blue screen madness most of the time.
>
> I actually own a top loader (bought it new for $50 back in the day) but
> that only has R/F outs which just about kills the usefullness of a
> 'plug n' play' setup for me.
>
> Anyway, are these worth the $30 or so? They guy at the mall SWORE it
> wouldn't play NES or Famicom games, saying 'oh if it did nintendo would
> sue!' I guess the 110 multicart he sells with the with 20 variants of
> SMB is totally OK though.. whatever.
>
> = numsix
> = http://www.villagebbs.com
>
I have two old-style NES consoles in my closet since they
tend to give me the old blue screen 99% of the time. I finally
knuckled down and got one of those top-loaders by Yobo
at a game store. It comes with an adapter that enables it to
play American NES games. It does use A/V cables (which I liked
for the original NES), and has played every game I have thrown
at it (including Death Race, which I could never get running on
the NES) with no problems at all.
The only caveat I have is that the cart, with the adapter
attached, isn't very snug in the slot, but since mine
sits on a shelf, I haven't had it shake out or anything.
Also the controllers are built pretty cheap, though
again, I haven't had any break. It cost me 39.95 when I
bought it back in February.
So by my own personal experience, I'd go for it. Others'
personal experiences may vary ^_^.

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Anonymous
June 24, 2005 10:52:14 AM

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In article <1119579275.697654.124080@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
"Jack (www.villagebbs.com)" <lupin3@planetjurai.com> wrote:

> I'm sure everyone has seen these by now, they've replaced the 'wonder
> joys' at our local mall, and are all over e-bay:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=...
> d=1
>
> (just a sample pulled at random)
>
> Has anyone tried these? Obviously, the ability to play NES games in a
> top loading system WITH a/v cables is what i'm aiming for. I recently
> took my original NES apart, cleaned the hell out of it and even
> plugging carts directly into it with the 'push down' system removed,
> it's stll blue screen madness most of the time.
>
> I actually own a top loader (bought it new for $50 back in the day) but
> that only has R/F outs which just about kills the usefullness of a
> 'plug n' play' setup for me.
>
> Anyway, are these worth the $30 or so? They guy at the mall SWORE it
> wouldn't play NES or Famicom games, saying 'oh if it did nintendo would
> sue!' I guess the 110 multicart he sells with the with 20 variants of
> SMB is totally OK though.. whatever.

A local game reseller here in StL (The Game Trader in St. Charles,
specifically) carries these. They seem to work well. Initially, they
did not have NES controller ports, but that seems to have been fixed.

They do work well, and the composite a/v is nice.

jt
June 24, 2005 11:14:51 AM

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Jojo wrote:
>>Has anyone tried these?
>
>
> I have one and use it often. It's a Yobo. It rocks. It's small and sexy...
> it has original NES controller ports so you can use real NES controllers
> (light guns, peripherals, etc) on it. Well worth $30.
>
> The other guy who replied to your post said he needed an adapter to play NES
> games... mine says "USA Version" on the box and plays NES carts natively -
> meaning I don't need an adapter to play my NES games. I *would* need an
> adapter to play famicom games on it. So it sounds like he has the asian
> version.

I do. After replying I followed his link and I saw the differences to
mine (most notably the cart label facing the front of the unit; mine
has to go in the opposite way) and the controller ports that resemble
the old Atari/Sega ports (already tried Sega Master System and
Genny controllers in 'em; they don't work properly). Still, even given
those differences, I still can play my NES games, so I don't regret
getting it.

>
> I paid $30 at a local game store in Los Angeles.
>
>
>>They guy at the mall SWORE it
>>wouldn't play NES or Famicom games, saying 'oh if it did nintendo would
>>sue!'
>
>
> He's smoking plastic. It plays NES games if it says "USA Version" on the
> box.
>
>


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Anonymous
June 25, 2005 11:43:18 AM

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"Jack (www.villagebbs.com)" <lupin3@planetjurai.com> wrote in message
news:1119579275.697654.124080@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> I'm sure everyone has seen these by now, they've replaced the 'wonder
> joys' at our local mall, and are all over e-bay:
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=...
>
> (just a sample pulled at random)
>
> Has anyone tried these? Obviously, the ability to play NES games in a
> top loading system WITH a/v cables is what i'm aiming for. I recently
> took my original NES apart, cleaned the hell out of it and even
> plugging carts directly into it with the 'push down' system removed,
> it's stll blue screen madness most of the time.
[SNIP]

I broke down and purchased one of the Yobo "FC Game Consoles" because the
sole front-loading NES I own has problems reading the cartridges. It came
in three colors--white with red, blue with white, and a more "modern" silver
with black.

Despite what some of the other replies have said, mine does NOT work with
original NES controllers even though the ports look the same. While you can
plug two NES controllers into it, the Yobo controllers are actually more
like the SNES controllers in that they have 4 (not 2) action buttons (and an
LED and "slow" button which they have added). When I tried using original
NES controllers, some of the games read the input incorrectly, so I'm
guessing that the pins are different. The other problem I have with it is
that there is no eject button/switch. The cartridges fit very snugly into
the system, so you have to yank them out manually and it is sometimes
difficult to do so. I have no idea if pulling cartridges out with force
will cause problems with the unit in the future.

On the plus side, the unit is compact (maybe 1/8th the side of the original,
and barely bigger than the cartridge itself). It is very lightweight, and
has an A/V output like the original front-loading NES. I paid just over $30
for it.
Anonymous
June 27, 2005 5:57:25 PM

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Check this one out:

http://www.playmessiah.com/onlinestore/index.htm

I'd venture to say that this one should pretty well own the Yobo
Famiclone. A sleek looking NES clone with both a NES cart and Famicom
cart slot and wireless controller connectivity.
Anonymous
June 28, 2005 2:53:51 AM

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Carey85 wrote:
> Check this one out:
>
> http://www.playmessiah.com/onlinestore/index.htm
>
> I'd venture to say that this one should pretty well own the Yobo
> Famiclone. A sleek looking NES clone with both a NES cart and Famicom
> cart slot and wireless controller connectivity.
>

Ok, THAT is pretty slick. If the wireless controllers were included (or
a bit cheaper), I would pick one of these up.


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Anonymous
June 28, 2005 6:35:16 PM

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It looks to be quality equipment, hopefully made with quality in mind.
Anonymous
June 29, 2005 1:46:26 PM

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Carey85 wrote:
> Check this one out:
>
> http://www.playmessiah.com/onlinestore/index.htm
>
> I'd venture to say that this one should pretty well own the Yobo
> Famiclone. A sleek looking NES clone with both a NES cart and Famicom
> cart slot and wireless controller connectivity.
>

Notice it has wireless capability. The unit itself comes with one wired
controller. You must buy the wireless controllers seperately for
$59.99!!!!! That's the same cost as the unit itself!!!! What a crock.
Anonymous
July 3, 2005 2:36:59 AM

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Chuck Whitby <intvsama@verizon.net> wrote in
news:Xns9684DEF341AE8intvsamaverizonnet@199.45.49.11:
>>>
>>> http://www.playmessiah.com/onlinestore/index.htm
>
> Just because the system's old doesn't mean all the technology being
> implemented in it is.
>

That's a pretty slick little unit, I have to admit. Although,
I can't imagine ever using a knockoff system to play my beloved
games.


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Anonymous
July 3, 2005 8:32:16 AM

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"Aaron J. Bossig" <linkvb06@SpammersWillBeExecuted.ptd.net> wrote in
news:Xns9687F039DEE22linkvb06SpammersWill@204.186.200.105:

> Chuck Whitby <intvsama@verizon.net> wrote in
> news:Xns9684DEF341AE8intvsamaverizonnet@199.45.49.11:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.playmessiah.com/onlinestore/index.htm
>>
>> Just because the system's old doesn't mean all the technology being
>> implemented in it is.
>>
>
> That's a pretty slick little unit, I have to admit. Although,
> I can't imagine ever using a knockoff system to play my beloved
> games.
>
>

Not exactly knock-off. The story, as it's been told to me, is that
Messiah approached Nintendo to make it an official sanctioned Nintendo
unit. Nintendo didn't want to be bothered with it, but gave them their
blessings on the production of the Generation NEX.

This may not be 100% true, but it's the story I got.

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Anonymous
July 3, 2005 5:15:13 PM

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BTW, I don't know if everyone's noticed the dual cart ports on the
Generation NEX. Cart port on the front is for NES carts. There's a second
cart port on the top towards the back for Famicom carts. No need for
adaptors or a seperate Famicom system, the NEX plays both.

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Anonymous
July 3, 2005 9:20:47 PM

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Chuck Whitby <intvsama@verizon.net> wrote in
news:Xns96885799882Dintvsamaverizonnet@199.45.49.11:

>>
>> That's a pretty slick little unit, I have to admit. Although,
>> I can't imagine ever using a knockoff system to play my beloved
>> games.
>>
>>
>
> Not exactly knock-off. The story, as it's been told to me, is that
> Messiah approached Nintendo to make it an official sanctioned Nintendo
> unit. Nintendo didn't want to be bothered with it, but gave them their
> blessings on the production of the Generation NEX.
>
> This may not be 100% true, but it's the story I got.

Very interesting, I admit it warms me up to the NEX a *little*. Kinda
strange, Nintendo is not known for giving their blessing on anything
they don't get a cut out of.



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http://www.dvdverdict.com
Anonymous
July 9, 2005 6:36:58 PM

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>
>> D: Priced a good wireless controller for a current gen system? (ala
>> Wavebird for Gamecube, also $30+ each)
>
>
>I guess you have a point there. How about a single controller for $30???
>At least it would be more affordable to some.
>

I don't know if they are responding to your complaint or if you simply
overlooked it, but when I checked their page today I saw they DO offer
the wireless controllers in a single unit package, for $29.99. Even
includes the dog tag! ;) 
!