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PCI to AGP converter

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December 5, 2001 5:06:51 PM

Please tell me there is no such thing so that I can pee on my friend who says there is.
Thanks.

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December 5, 2001 5:21:11 PM

I've never heard of one but that doesn't mean much. There are any number of things I've never heard of.

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December 5, 2001 5:29:56 PM

I just can't figure where you'd put your agp card. except if it's like lying outside the case.

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December 5, 2001 6:28:36 PM

You mean to put a PCI card in an AGP slot, or the other way around?

If the other way around, it would be completely pointless. If the former, it'd help but might not even be possible.

I've never heard of something like that.

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December 5, 2001 11:42:27 PM

Either way it'd be pointless, performance-wise. Because you have a PCI card that isn't capable of transfers faster than the PCI bus, and the other way around an AGP card would be slowed down by the PCI bus.
EDIT: there is NO PCI-AGP adapter, you can prove your friend wrong...
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December 6, 2001 12:11:52 AM

It would be impossible. AGP is a PORT, PCI is a BUS, they are connected differently.

What's the frequency, Kenneth?
December 6, 2001 8:48:25 AM

It is supposed to let people without agp slots buy an agp card because agp cards are more common.

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December 6, 2001 3:13:46 PM

I don't see why a AGP interface could not be modified to accept a PCI device. One has a bus to the northbridge and one to the southbridge. SIS basically has both in one chip.

Why couldn't you modify it?

Now I agree that going from AGP into a PCI would not yield any benefit let alone the castration of the bandwith that AGP requires from the main system memory. But for a PCI to go into AGP, could work with the right hardware changeover and drivers. Easier to buy a new video card and most likely cheaper. Hey, dumber things have been created and were able to hit the streets. (Pet Rocks, New Kids on the Block, etc.) Look at the Linux / Windows cross over software that is available. Together the regular user probably wouldn't have need of this but someone does, this could be one of those situations here.

Now like I said, it probably isn't practical but it is probable to create. No?

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a b U Graphics card
December 6, 2001 4:52:43 PM

I suppose it would be possible to "port" a secondary PCI controller through an AGP slot, but that would be expensive and nearly pointless.

What's the frequency, Kenneth?
a b U Graphics card
December 6, 2001 4:53:26 PM

How would you mount it if it could be done?

What's the frequency, Kenneth?
December 6, 2001 5:36:12 PM

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How would you mount it if it could be done?

My point exactly. Except if this gadget converter tells you in the manual to chop the agp card to fit it inside the case.
And this (imaginary) solution has nothing to do with performance, it has to do with having an agp port on old pc's.

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December 6, 2001 6:28:18 PM

That is the most stupid and ridiculous thing I have heard in a long time. I've been sitting here for five minutes trying to decide where to even begin to tell you what is wrong with that.

You would have to integrate a PCI bridge..
The bus speed is..
The south bridge..
The data protocol..
The actuall number of pins on an..
How would you get the slot to line up with an adapt..

Fuxit. That's retarded and besides your "burden of proof" in this little disagreement is backwards. Tell your tard that he should show you one to prove it. Make a bet on it. I'll cover half your losses if you lose. I'm willing to shell out the cash just to remove a small drop of stupidity from this world in order to benifit all mankind.
December 6, 2001 7:26:54 PM

I know it seems like an asinine idea or solution to allow AGP to take a PCI device; but it could be used where there is a new motherboard and an old video card.

As for bus speeds, AGP is a multiple of 33MHz so it could use a reciprocal multiplier like ½ AGP or something along those lines.

Southbridge would not be a factor here because it would go through the AGP bus into the Northbridge.

Protocol could be reworked. I am not a software guy but software is built for hardware.

Pins and such other details can be fixed.

Now for, “How would you get the cards to line up?” You could set up a stagger from the AGP backwards away from the back of the case. You would need to use some form of cabling to get the outputs/inputs to get to a case spacer like is used for additional USB connections. (Cord from MB to the additional USB port spacer. Screwed into the PCI hole in the back of the case.) Cord plugs into the video out, then to the plate that is screwed into where the APG card would come out.

It could work but like I said it would most likely be expensive.

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December 6, 2001 8:53:13 PM

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your "burden of proof" in this little disagreement is backwards.


That's true, actually. I hadn't thought of that. It should be his job to prove that one exists (and that's easier to do).

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