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jollygrinch   10-30-2001 at 05:54:27 AM
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Read the story. It's terrible. I'm not saying that you have to contribute to his defense fund (i didn't, i'm a student and have no money), but at least sign the petition.
<A HREF="http://www.tacube.com/pages/mcowen.html" target="_new">15 years in PRISON for running RC5</A>

HELP THIS MAN!!

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Rick_Criswell   10-30-2001 at 06:05:46 AM
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I signed it and hope others will also.

I aint signing nothing!!!

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jollygrinch   10-30-2001 at 07:11:57 AM
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thanks for replying and signing...so this may seem mean, but i really love seeing that message and then reading your sig...i almost split something laughing so hard...

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FatBurger   10-30-2001 at 08:32:40 PM
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Yeah, me too. It's great when people's sigs go along with what they say.

I really dislike Intel's slogan and color scheme.

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flamethrower205   10-30-2001 at 10:13:01 PM
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What is RC5?

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Yahiko81   10-30-2001 at 10:20:09 PM
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I saw tom smart on there. I wonder if it's the one from here.

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FatBurger   10-30-2001 at 11:07:12 PM
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RC5 is a distributed computing client. In other words, it will download portions of a problem that needs to be solved, and work through a small part of it. Then it'll upload the results and get the next part. This way, thousands of computers worldwide can work as a single supercomputer.
There are lots of different ones for curing cancer, solving complex math problems, etc. I don't know which this was.

It runs as a screensaver, taking up CPU usage only when nothing else is going on.

Yahiko, I hope you know that the Tom of Tom's Hardware is named Thomas Pabst.

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flamethrower205   10-30-2001 at 11:42:53 PM
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So what's so bad about what he did? I don't see anything wrong with it, since if you aren't using your comp, it might as well be curing cancer or something. Hell, if I knew I had such a program on my comp, and it was doing useful things to help humanity, I would purposely leave my comp on all night doing nothing. This guy basically helps people, and then gets screwed over. Unfair.

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jollygrinch   10-30-2001 at 11:57:15 PM
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legaly he didn't have a right to put anything on the computers he didn't tell them too. i'm sure there's no chance he will get the full sentance (or anything close to it) but people have been let off for much less than this. and simply dragging him to court and getting him fired is ruining the poor guy's life. the right/wrong issue has been kicked to death...see the forum link at the bottom of the article, and over at hardforum...

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jollygrinch   10-30-2001 at 11:57:21 PM
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legaly he didn't have a right to put anything on the computers they didn't tell them too. i'm sure there's no chance he will get the full sentance (or anything close to it) but people have been let off for much less than this. and simply dragging him to court and getting him fired is ruining the poor guy's life. the right/wrong issue has been kicked to death...see the forum link at the bottom of the article, and over at hardforum...

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flamethrower205   10-31-2001 at 12:04:18 AM
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What I don't understand is so what that he put it? I mean, it's not like it affects your comp. If someone were to install something on a clients computer that made it run faster and more reliably, would that be bad?

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FatBurger   10-31-2001 at 12:14:02 AM
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That's the entire point. It's not doing anything, so why are they suing? Because he did it without them knowing.

Let me put it this way. You own a limosuine service. One of your employees decides to take one of the limosuines out for a joy ride when there was nobody scheduled. He didn't tell you about it. Are you mad? Probably not, he's an employee, it's not hurting anything.

Now, while he's out, a paying customer wants to use the limo, but can't, because it's out on a joy ride. Suddenly you're mad because he took it without saying anything, and you lost a customer because of it. He did the same thing, but his right/wrongness is suddenly changed.

Not the perfect analogy, but do you get my point?

I think that he should have lost his job (he should've gotten permission). But he shouldn't be expected to pay for the use of the computers (unless it infringed on other people who were paying to use them, or messed up the computers somehow...causing downtime, or whatever).

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WiseGuy1   10-31-2001 at 12:26:34 AM
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I think one of the points their trying to bust him on is the fact that he can win a prize (forget what it is) if one of his computers solves the the code breaker or whatever it is the program is trying to solve (think it deals with hacking encryption). Any way it would probably be like my computer finding the cure for cancer with the UD agent. Very unlikely to happen on mine, even if it is found.

Now that I think about it, I guess I better take that off my school computer :)

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FatBurger   10-31-2001 at 12:29:26 AM
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Now that I think about it, I guess I better take that off my school computer :)



At least they couldn't fine you if they found it on your school computer. They might kill your access to the computer lab, though.

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flamethrower205   10-31-2001 at 12:33:02 AM
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hehe, you put [-peep-] on your school comps too? Mine is running 2 game servers:)

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WiseGuy1   10-31-2001 at 12:56:17 AM
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Actually I'm a teacher. It's running on my classroom computer. Oops!!

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FatBurger   10-31-2001 at 01:20:02 AM
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You're probably ok then. That's easy to explain off. "I was running it overnight to make sure the computers are stable", or some similar BS.

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dhlucke   10-31-2001 at 01:48:51 AM
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I'm trying to figure this out. He installed the software and they claim they lost money. How? Were they doing numerical analysis or something that was using 100% of the CPU that this guy tapped into? Why is this a felony also? We're talking about setting something like Seti@home on the computers in a school system and getting sued for it. At my university we spend hours and hours setting it up on every computer we can so that the cpu is used. This doesn't even say what mode he had it in. If it was in the screensaver mode then it wasn't even using the cpu when others were. I doubt this is real. It's too stupid.

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jollygrinch   10-31-2001 at 03:25:47 AM
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well, anything is possible, but if it is a hoax they've got the la times, salon magazine, zdnet, cnet, the register, the boston globe, and sladshot.com all fooled....but anything is possible.

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flamethrower205   10-31-2001 at 03:40:50 AM
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Probably not a hoax, and I'm sure his sentence will just be a slap on the wrists.

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Yahiko81   10-31-2001 at 05:35:05 AM
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I think there is a THG Member named tom smart

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Anonymous   10-31-2001 at 11:06:45 AM
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tomsmart to be exact.

I wanna be a hippie and I wanna get stoned yeah.

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ejsmith2   10-31-2001 at 03:17:03 PM
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The one time I started looking around at several distributed clients, I was reading the terms of use.

About 3 of them were 'for-profit' groups, which 'from time, to time' would send packets that would be consequently sold to their clients. Only when they did not have an impending, profitable packet would they send something from one of the 'non-profit research centers'. The only thing that I thought, and consequently said, was WTF? (in my best marine drill instructor voice)

That's when I stuck to Seti, and the protein folder.

"Can I use your computer, having let you pay for the electricity, so I can sell the information to my clients which you were so nice to have computed for me, allowing me to bribe several Securities & Exchange officials into overlooking my illegal selling of company stocks?"

"Sure, man. Glad to hook you up."

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FatBurger   10-31-2001 at 07:12:07 PM
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Ah, you're right. Forgot about good old tomsmart.

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