New MBP 2011

What do you personally think about the revised new MBP that is shipping with the new LION OS?

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Reply to musical marv

I think the new MBP hardware is second to none, but I'm not overly enjoying lion os, I think that with the first SP it will be better to use.

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psychokineticnz wrote :

I think the new MBP hardware is second to none, but I'm not overly enjoying lion os, I think that with the first SP it will be better to use.

What is wrong with LION OS you are not content with?I am using the newest Snow Leopard 10.6.8 and it is good.Truthfully I am afraid to delve into the LION OS as I am not that perfect with Apple to begin with it.When you reach 67 years you forget things.

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I loved Snow leopard, and I've been warned before that you should always wait until the first service pack is released before moving over to a new OS (particularly true for MS stuff)
I'm finding that my laptop doesn't come out of "sleep" mode by moving my mouse anymore (it takes pushing keys on the keyboard.) also, it comes out of sleep slower than when I ran Leopard.
Plus, when using safari (I use an attached MS USB mouse), I've randomly had both mouse buttons change to a "right click" - so no left click and only rebooting my mac fixes it.
You know what they say, it's the little things.

Roll on SP1

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psychokineticnz wrote :

I loved Snow leopard, and I've been warned before that you should always wait until the first service pack is released before moving over to a new OS (particularly true for MS stuff)
I'm finding that my laptop doesn't come out of "sleep" mode by moving my mouse anymore (it takes pushing keys on the keyboard.) also, it comes out of sleep slower than when I ran Leopard.
Plus, when using safari (I use an attached MS USB mouse), I've randomly had both mouse buttons change to a "right click" - so no left click and only rebooting my mac fixes it.
You know what they say, it's the little things.you are right I am waiting till the bugs are eliminated from the first btach of LION OS.There are problems with this as I spoke with people and heard their problems.

Roll on SP1

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psychokineticnz wrote :

I loved Snow leopard, and I've been warned before that you should always wait until the first service pack is released before moving over to a new OS (particularly true for MS stuff)
I'm finding that my laptop doesn't come out of "sleep" mode by moving my mouse anymore (it takes pushing keys on the keyboard.) also, it comes out of sleep slower than when I ran Leopard.
Plus, when using safari (I use an attached MS USB mouse), I've randomly had both mouse buttons change to a "right click" - so no left click and only rebooting my mac fixes it.
You know what they say, it's the little things.

Roll on SP1

:-)

The problem is there are still flaws in the first batch of LION.I will wait till this is completely done right and than pursue it.

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I dont like Mission Copntrol, and I like having F3 and F4 as Dashboard and Expose keys. Therefore, Im staying with Snow Leopard as long as possible.

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leandrodafontoura wrote :

I dont like Mission Copntrol, and I like having F3 and F4 as Dashboard and Expose keys. Therefore, Im staying with Snow Leopard as long as possible.

What is wrong with Mission Control you do not favor?

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psychokineticnz wrote :

I loved Snow leopard, and I've been warned before that you should always wait until the first service pack is released before moving over to a new OS (particularly true for MS stuff)
I'm finding that my laptop doesn't come out of "sleep" mode by moving my mouse anymore (it takes pushing keys on the keyboard.) also, it comes out of sleep slower than when I ran Leopard.
Plus, when using safari (I use an attached MS USB mouse), I've randomly had both mouse buttons change to a "right click" - so no left click and only rebooting my mac fixes it.
You know what they say, it's the little things.Personally what do you think about the new MBA without an Ethernet connection?

Roll on SP1

:-)

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Reply to musical marv

I upgraded my 2011 MacBook Pro to Lion and immediately noticed some performance issues. ...it took seemingly a minute for my SSD to boot the OS (in 10.6.8 the OS loaded in under 15 seconds). Fortunately, I had a SuperDuper image of my SL 10.6.8 install. I tried upgrading several times and still had the same issues.

Finally, I reformatted my drive and installed Lion (and all my applications again) from scratch and haven't had any problems whatsoever and my machine is as fast as expected.

I say that to say that if you're having trouble with Lion it could be the result of the upgrade whereas a clean install may perform significantly better.

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halcyon wrote :

I upgraded my 2011 MacBook Pro to Lion and immediately noticed some performance issues. ...it took seemingly a minute for my SSD to boot the OS (in 10.6.8 the OS loaded in under 15 seconds). Fortunately, I had a SuperDuper image of my SL 10.6.8 install. I tried upgrading several times and still had the same issues.

Finally, I reformatted my drive and installed Lion (and all my applications again) from scratch and haven't had any problems whatsoever and my machine is as fast as expected.

I say that to say that if you're having trouble with Lion it could be the result of the upgrade whereas a clean install may perform significantly better.

Thanks I will wait until all of the bugs are out.Incidentally what MBP do you own?

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musical marv wrote :

Thanks I will wait until all of the bugs are out.Incidentally what MBP do you own?

I have the 15" 2.3Ghz i7

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halcyon wrote :

I have the 15" 2.3Ghz i7

Very nice unit.Did you ever have a problem with your OD when playing movies? Mine started making loud noses a few days.Thanks Marv

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musical marv wrote :

Very nice unit.Did you ever have a problem with your OD when playing movies? Mine started making loud noses a few days.Thanks Marv

I immediately removed my OD and replaced it with an OD hard drive mount with a Western Digital Scorpio Black 750GB

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halcyon wrote :

I immediately removed my OD and replaced it with an OD hard drive mount with a Western Digital Scorpio Black 750GB

If you do this procedure do you lose your warranty from Apple? thanks

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musical marv wrote :

If you do this procedure do you lose your warranty from Apple? thanks

If I sent it into service with the drive removed I'm sure I would...but if I ever had to have service I would put the optical drive back in.

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halcyon wrote :

If I sent it into service with the drive removed I'm sure I would...but if I ever had to have service I would put the optical drive back in.

Thanks I will think about it.

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musical marv wrote :

Thanks I will think about it.

Having a separate large capacity drive has been very valuable...especially since my SSD isn't that large.

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halcyon wrote :

Having a separate large capacity drive has been very valuable...especially since my SSD isn't that large.

I wish I had a small portion of your Mac knowledge.I would be contented.

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halcyon wrote :

Having a separate large capacity drive has been very valuable...especially since my SSD isn't that large.

oooo, that sounds like a fantastic idea!, I will have to hit the google monster and figure out how to do just that for my MBP.

Thanks for the great idea!

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psychokineticnz wrote :

oooo, that sounds like a fantastic idea!, I will have to hit the google monster and figure out how to do just that for my MBP.

Thanks for the great idea!You really only need that for large files you store.

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musical marv wrote :

Well, I've already got 7 TB of external storage, so a little more internal storage wouldn't hurt.

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It made sense to me since I rarely use the optical drive.

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halcyon wrote :

It made sense to me since I rarely use the optical drive.

I played some movies which are copies and it did not make any nose at all.Some movies it does.What gives? Thanks

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musical marv wrote :

I played some movies which are copies and it did not make any nose at all.Some movies it does.What gives? Thanks

That's a good question. I don't know much about how the encoding is done but I thought all DVDs were pretty much encoded the same which means they should be requiring the same power to decode. I guess I'm ignorant. Maybe your copies have variances in their encoding that's requiring different amounts of power to decode?

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Reply to halcyon

Just got my Mac Book Pro 17" with a intel Core i7 2.3 Ghz. a week ago and loving it.

I just upgraded the RAM my self to 8GB from the stock 4 GB( did not want to pay a $200 premium for what I could do for $60)
and I upgraded my Hard Drive from the stock 500GB 7200RMP to a 750GB 7200RPM.

it boots a little slower with the upgraded Hard Drive but once I get windows installed for my work apps through boot camp I will be all set.

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madtech01 wrote :

Just got my Mac Book Pro 17" with a intel Core i7 2.3 Ghz. a week ago and loving it.

I just upgraded the RAM my self to 8GB from the stock 4 GB( did not want to pay a $200 premium for what I could do for $60)
and I upgraded my Hard Drive from the stock 500GB 7200RMP to a 750GB 7200RPM.

it boots a little slower with the upgraded Hard Drive but once I get windows installed for my work apps through boot camp I will be all set.

One day you may want to consider the OWC drive doubler, unless you really use your optical drive a lot. ...put an SSD in your new puppy and place the 750 in the OWC Drive Doubler...its a sweet setup, I love it. The OS X boots in ~15 seconds if not less.

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unfortunatly I do use my optical drive a lot so far so a second drive will just have to wait.

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madtech01 wrote :

unfortunatly I do use my optical drive a lot so far so a second drive will just have to wait.

FireWire 800 does pretty well

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Reply to halcyon

halcyon wrote :

That's a good question. I don't know much about how the encoding is done but I thought all DVDs were pretty much encoded the same which means they should be requiring the same power to decode. I guess I'm ignorant. Maybe your copies have variances in their encoding that's requiring different amounts of power to decode?

Anyway apple called me today and they are going to replace the OD tomorrow.Thanks

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musical marv wrote :

Anyway apple called me today and they are going to replace the OD tomorrow.Thanks

Very cool. ...hope that fixes it.

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halcyon wrote :

Very cool. ...hope that fixes it.

Thanks I appreciate all your help

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I think the new MBP hardware is second to none

LOL! Sorry, I know I'm not the right person to post in the Mac forums... but YOU need to refresh your knowledge. Couldn't refrain from posting... the ignorance is amazing.

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I think the new MBP hardware is second to none

LOL! Sorry, I know I'm not the right person to post in the Mac forums... but YOU need to refresh your knowledge. Couldn't refrain from posting... the ignorance is amazing.

LOL. Maybe he meant to say he thinks its second to none compared with other typical off-the-shelf laptops like Dell, HP, Acer, etc.

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