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TI200 Vs. TI500 Vs. Wait

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December 29, 2001 6:55:41 AM

Welp, I'm about to upgrade to an Athlon 1900+ and I want to pair it up with an excellant video card. I play a lot of Everquest and other 1st person games, and video performance means a lot. I especially enjoy using FSAA 4X and I know that DRAINS the card a bunch. So I figured that I'd need to get a TI500.

HOWEVER, Tom's article made it seem that, in general, a TI200 could overclock to very similar performance as a TI500, even surpassing the TI500 not overclocked. Even when overclocked, the TI500 was not that much faster than a TI200 overclocked.

And now people are talking about new cards being released in February. Is this true? Is it worth waiting?

So, what to do? Is the extra money really worth it to get a TI500, or is an overclocked TI200 the way to go? OR should I wait?

Ron

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December 29, 2001 2:36:15 PM

Many people are stating a GF4 coming in Feb, but I don't beleive it much. The GF3 has not been given time to mature and now a new one comes out? Why not announce a GF5 for the end quarter 2002 while you're at it!

Back to the topic, the GF3 serie boast Quincunx AA, and that is better than 4x and gives you much better performance than 4X. But you'll need Anisotropic to alleviate the tad lower image quality.
I'd say go for the Ti200, and OC it. I am getting one soon, the Asus one, because from Tom's tests, it has reached the farthest, even more than Gainward! It was then performing on par with a Ti500 from PNY, which I consider is an excellent deal for a lower card in the serie! Save money and get the solution that allows high performance!
Asus also gives a special Turbo option for the Ti200, which boosts it without any overclocking setting and safely.

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December 29, 2001 2:39:33 PM

or you can get a Radeon 8500 and watch it improve in perforamance in the next couple of months, hehe.

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December 29, 2001 3:22:01 PM

September 1999 - Geforce 256 (SDR) introduction (<A HREF="http://www.reactorcritical.com/archive.shtml" target="_new">www.reactorcritical.com archive</A>)

April 26, 2000 - Geforce2 GTS introduction (<A HREF="http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?PAGE=pr_archive" target="_new">nVidia Press archive</A>)

February 27, 2001 - Geforce3 for the PC (<A HREF="http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?PAGE=pr_archive" target="_new">nVidia Press release</A>)

To me it looks like a 9 to 10 month, major, product cycle at nVidia. It's been 10 months since the introduction of the Geforce3.

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December 29, 2001 3:28:19 PM

Agh! That's crazy! The GeForce3 is a can-do-everything card right now and nVidia is releasing a new one? That is absolutely crazy. What's the point. I have yet to see any games that makes use of all of the features and performance of the GeForce3 so what's the point of getting a GeForce4??

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December 29, 2001 4:05:38 PM

Wow, I could understand a new and improved GeForce 3, say with 128 megs of memory or something, but why a whole new GPU? Oh well. I'm leaning towards a nice inexpensivish OCed TI200 which would allow me to upgrade sooner if some new earth-rattling GPU comes out.

Ron
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December 29, 2001 7:12:11 PM

I'm slowly moving towards the 8500 do to slowly gaining suport for trueform in the gaming industry.

What's the frequency, Kenneth?
December 29, 2001 7:52:20 PM

Has it been enabled yet? This thing is impressive from what I read, but so far I haven't seen anyone talking about it in real-time experience. But yes new chips always come with some cool feature that works with our current games, and that is a plus! Quincunx, Smooth Vision and Truform may be indeed good additions, if only that was the case for the other new features.

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December 29, 2001 8:03:36 PM

The search engine came up with too many hits but I'm pretty sure the TNT2 pre-dated the Geforce256 by only about 9 months and the original TNT was about a year before that.

I have no idea if nVidia will keep to this schedule but it has been the trend. I'm sure marketing is the real driving force. These days nVidia has fewer competitors but nVidia probably wants to stay in the lead.

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December 29, 2001 8:36:33 PM

To be honest I am wishing that many new competitors come. It feels so empty now that there is only 2 major video card manufacturers. Before it was an all-out battle that was quite good. Who knows? Maybe SiS has something hiding, or others...

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a b U Graphics card
December 29, 2001 10:54:53 PM

Trueform was always enabled to my knowledge, but support for it is just starting to show up in games. Smoothvision was enabled with the second driver release.

What's the frequency, Kenneth?
December 29, 2001 11:03:46 PM

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Smoothvision was enabled with the second driver release.

Third, I believe. Truforms works with the bundled version of Half-life but isn't too impressive in that game. It is now being used in Serious Sam. Also I don't think it's fair to compare the fps of Truform enabled games on the Radeon 8500 with the GF3 because it's obvious it will lose a few fps. Yes, ATI said there would be no performance hit but 0% performance hit is impossible no matter what they say or do!

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December 30, 2001 12:11:10 PM

apparantly square things aren't square anymore with trueform. hoardocp has some truform pictures in Serious sam where the crates are apparantly kind of round and shotguns look like pillows. I think thats with truform set to max (doesn't have to stay that way).

I don't like trueform because it is a quick fix and may hinder development of NURBS in dx9 games. NURBS will be cool especially if the cards have collision detection and inverse kinematics engines. If they have built in Quaternion support that would be just too cool.


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December 30, 2001 1:18:40 PM

lol, it's a bug in the game. But that image looks amusingly nasty however, hehe.

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December 30, 2001 1:35:12 PM

They didnt say if it was a bug in the game, so we dont know.

It was very humerous tho, thats a biiig shotgun.

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a b U Graphics card
December 30, 2001 4:08:01 PM

I guess you don't use it at max level in that game?

What's the frequency, Kenneth?
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