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Anonymous
August 29, 2005 11:04:47 AM

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Hi everyone
I hope someone can help me, I am fairly new to computers.
I have a 2 month old computer. HP Pavillion running WINXP with DVD burner
and a CD Drive.

I have had it in to the store for repairs (STAPLES) twice now. I will have
to take it in again.
Problem is I will be using it fine and then walk away and when I come back
later the screen goes to black with the words Reboot and select proper boot
media.
So i do that and nothing works I cannot get into windows. I will try this
on and off during the day and then will sometimes get to the screen where it
shows a bunch of messages including Master Boot Record Error. One time it
said backup your files hard drive failure imminent.

The thing is the last time I took it in for repair on this problem (last
week) the tech said it started up fine but he saw spyware on it when he did
a scan. So he sold me Spysweeper and charged for installation ($68.00)
Said the problem was spyware. There was already a spyware program on my
computer preinstalled plus Norton Security with all the bells and whistles.
Like I said this is a brand new computer.

So I get this supposedly fixed computer home yesterday and start it up no
problem. But later in the day it went to that boot screen again. (same
problem)

So now I am using my old WINME computer to talk to you guys.

Question is what is going on and how do I resolve this issue.

Should I take it back for repair. Should I ask for a brand new one?

Also if they exchange my computer, what about all my documents and photos
that are on my computer, I have backups but I don't want to leave them with
my personal info.

Sorry this is so long but I don't know what to do and I am so frustrated.
Thanks in advance.
I will await your replies anxiously.

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Anonymous
August 29, 2005 12:55:58 PM

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Also if they exchange my computer, what about all my documents and photos
> that are on my computer, I have backups but I don't want to leave them
> with
> my personal info.

"Ninip" <gwen6039@home.com> wrote in message
news:#3HEULKrFHA.3788@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Hi everyone
> I hope someone can help me, I am fairly new to computers.
> I have a 2 month old computer. HP Pavillion running WINXP with DVD burner
> and a CD Drive.
>
> I have had it in to the store for repairs (STAPLES) twice now. I will
have
> to take it in again.
> Problem is I will be using it fine and then walk away and when I come back
> later the screen goes to black with the words Reboot and select proper
boot
> media.
> So i do that and nothing works I cannot get into windows. I will try this
> on and off during the day and then will sometimes get to the screen where
it
> shows a bunch of messages including Master Boot Record Error. One time it
> said backup your files hard drive failure imminent.
>
> The thing is the last time I took it in for repair on this problem (last
> week) the tech said it started up fine but he saw spyware on it when he
did
> a scan. So he sold me Spysweeper and charged for installation ($68.00)
> Said the problem was spyware. There was already a spyware program on my
> computer preinstalled plus Norton Security with all the bells and
whistles.
> Like I said this is a brand new computer.
>
> So I get this supposedly fixed computer home yesterday and start it up no
> problem. But later in the day it went to that boot screen again. (same
> problem)
>
> So now I am using my old WINME computer to talk to you guys.
>
> Question is what is going on and how do I resolve this issue.
>
> Should I take it back for repair. Should I ask for a brand new one?
>
> Also if they exchange my computer, what about all my documents and photos
> that are on my computer, I have backups but I don't want to leave them
with
> my personal info.
>
> Sorry this is so long but I don't know what to do and I am so frustrated.
> Thanks in advance.
> I will await your replies anxiously.
>
>
Anonymous
August 29, 2005 2:40:43 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support (More info?)

Ninip

You go to the Staples store with your computer, and you stand in the
computer department and make a fuss in front of any other customers
present.. when approached by management, you make it clear to them that you
will continue to do this until such time as they fix your computer..

This assumes that it is a hardware problem of course.. Staples can't be held
responsible for what a computer user does to the computer after it has left
the store.. Staples is only responsible for defects caused during
manufacture and finishing..

It would help your cause to take it to an independent computer technician
and get a second opinion on whether it is a hardware issue or not.. re.
spyware, it is unfortunate that computer users have to be so guarded about
what they do and where they go..

I will give you some things to do, none of them being beyond the scope of a
newbie.. but first, a few lines about what to avoid..

Spyware and its associates lurk in all places.. P2P services are among the
biggest spreaders of grief, so avoid programs like Kazaa for instance.. even
if you install the so-called spyware free versions, files downloaded from
these services can be devastating.. there are users of these services that
deliberately make infected files available to the unwary.. others just do
not realise that their systems are infecting those of others in a covert
manner..



Websites offering free programs often have 'sponsor' software that comes
down with them.. it is important when installing free programs to look
carefully at check boxes.. if you are given the option to NOT install
sponsor material, take it..



Something else to be wary about.. replying to e-mails that offer services
that you really don't want.. replying very often leads to floods of other
internet 'waste'.. just delete them.. and one more thing on this topic.. I
have noticed that the Microsoft Cumulative Patch e-mail has surfaced again..
Microsoft do NOT send patches out to 'Dear Friend' EVER.. do not open them..
just delete them..



Run the processes below in order.. none of the processes are beyond the
abilities of a newbie user..



OK.. start by turning OFF the System Restore function.. click on the Start
button.. right click on 'My Computer', then select Properties.. now select
the 'System Restore' tab..

Check the box "Turn off System Restore" or "Turn off System Restore on all
drives".. now click on 'Apply'.. you will be asked if it is ok to lose all
restore points.. answer YES to this.. now click on 'OK'



Now to the removal process..



Run a one shot virus remover.. I have found that McAfee Stinger works for
people.. download and run it..



http://vil.nai.com/vil/stinger/



Another alternative is ..



http://housecall.trendmicro.com/housecall/start_corp.as...



Finish this process first..



You will also need to download Spyware removal software.. Spybot and Adaware
are available at these websites.. both are free.. download and run them..
don't forget to check for updates after you have started them..



http://www.safer-networking.org/en/index.html



http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/



.... and this link is for the latest Microsoft helping..



http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/softwa...



Spybot has the ability to immunize a system, but there is better for this
function, so download and run Spyware Blaster too.. again, check for
updates..



http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/



The above programs all need to be updated after the initial install.. do
this, and then run them..



Time to turn ON System Restore.. this is obviously like turning it OFF, so
just reverse the procedure..



If you have had your Internet browser hijacked, that is to say, you get
redirected through a search engine NOT of your choosing, you will need
different tools.. the best website for tools to rid yourself of home page
hijackers is.............



http://www.pchell.com



Mark Hasting has put much work into this site.. it is an invaluable site,
both for reference and fix-its..



You must also run a firewall and anti-virus program.. here are some links
for you..

http://www.mcafee.com

http://www.zonealarm.com

http://www.kerio.com

http://www.sygate.com

http://www.avast.com

http://www.grisoft.com



If you do not run a firewall and anti-virus solution, you are leaving
yourself open to attacks of all kinds.. these two types of program are your
first line of defence..



So by now, your system should be in reasonable shape.. you will have tools
'locked and loaded', ready for weekly use against those who seek to destroy
your pleasure.. incorporate these into a housekeeping policy that includes
running Defragmenter and Disk Cleanup, and you will be able to easily
maintain your system..



Please return to this thread and provide feedback.. it is the only way that
helpers here can determine how effective the advice given has been..



Good luck..


--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User


"Ninip" <gwen6039@home.com> wrote in message
news:%233HEULKrFHA.3788@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Hi everyone
> I hope someone can help me, I am fairly new to computers.
> I have a 2 month old computer. HP Pavillion running WINXP with DVD burner
> and a CD Drive.
>
> I have had it in to the store for repairs (STAPLES) twice now. I will
> have
> to take it in again.
> Problem is I will be using it fine and then walk away and when I come back
> later the screen goes to black with the words Reboot and select proper
> boot
> media.
> So i do that and nothing works I cannot get into windows. I will try this
> on and off during the day and then will sometimes get to the screen where
> it
> shows a bunch of messages including Master Boot Record Error. One time it
> said backup your files hard drive failure imminent.
>
> The thing is the last time I took it in for repair on this problem (last
> week) the tech said it started up fine but he saw spyware on it when he
> did
> a scan. So he sold me Spysweeper and charged for installation ($68.00)
> Said the problem was spyware. There was already a spyware program on my
> computer preinstalled plus Norton Security with all the bells and
> whistles.
> Like I said this is a brand new computer.
>
> So I get this supposedly fixed computer home yesterday and start it up no
> problem. But later in the day it went to that boot screen again. (same
> problem)
>
> So now I am using my old WINME computer to talk to you guys.
>
> Question is what is going on and how do I resolve this issue.
>
> Should I take it back for repair. Should I ask for a brand new one?
>
> Also if they exchange my computer, what about all my documents and photos
> that are on my computer, I have backups but I don't want to leave them
> with
> my personal info.
>
> Sorry this is so long but I don't know what to do and I am so frustrated.
> Thanks in advance.
> I will await your replies anxiously.
>
>
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Anonymous
August 29, 2005 2:40:44 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support (More info?)

Thanks for all the goodwebsites and info.

But I cannot get to my desktop to use any of these.
My computer will not go beyond the HP screen and then it goes to a black
screen with the words Reboot and select proper boot media.
Thanks

"Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:uAPgZeKrFHA.716@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Ninip
>
> You go to the Staples store with your computer, and you stand in the
> computer department and make a fuss in front of any other customers
> present.. when approached by management, you make it clear to them that
you
> will continue to do this until such time as they fix your computer..
>
> This assumes that it is a hardware problem of course.. Staples can't be
held
> responsible for what a computer user does to the computer after it has
left
> the store.. Staples is only responsible for defects caused during
> manufacture and finishing..
>
> It would help your cause to take it to an independent computer technician
> and get a second opinion on whether it is a hardware issue or not.. re.
> spyware, it is unfortunate that computer users have to be so guarded about
> what they do and where they go..
>
> I will give you some things to do, none of them being beyond the scope of
a
> newbie.. but first, a few lines about what to avoid..
>
> Spyware and its associates lurk in all places.. P2P services are among the
> biggest spreaders of grief, so avoid programs like Kazaa for instance..
even
> if you install the so-called spyware free versions, files downloaded from
> these services can be devastating.. there are users of these services that
> deliberately make infected files available to the unwary.. others just do
> not realise that their systems are infecting those of others in a covert
> manner..
>
>
>
> Websites offering free programs often have 'sponsor' software that comes
> down with them.. it is important when installing free programs to look
> carefully at check boxes.. if you are given the option to NOT install
> sponsor material, take it..
>
>
>
> Something else to be wary about.. replying to e-mails that offer services
> that you really don't want.. replying very often leads to floods of other
> internet 'waste'.. just delete them.. and one more thing on this topic.. I
> have noticed that the Microsoft Cumulative Patch e-mail has surfaced
again..
> Microsoft do NOT send patches out to 'Dear Friend' EVER.. do not open
them..
> just delete them..
>
>
>
> Run the processes below in order.. none of the processes are beyond the
> abilities of a newbie user..
>
>
>
> OK.. start by turning OFF the System Restore function.. click on the Start
> button.. right click on 'My Computer', then select Properties.. now select
> the 'System Restore' tab..
>
> Check the box "Turn off System Restore" or "Turn off System Restore on all
> drives".. now click on 'Apply'.. you will be asked if it is ok to lose all
> restore points.. answer YES to this.. now click on 'OK'
>
>
>
> Now to the removal process..
>
>
>
> Run a one shot virus remover.. I have found that McAfee Stinger works for
> people.. download and run it..
>
>
>
> http://vil.nai.com/vil/stinger/
>
>
>
> Another alternative is ..
>
>
>
> http://housecall.trendmicro.com/housecall/start_corp.as...
>
>
>
> Finish this process first..
>
>
>
> You will also need to download Spyware removal software.. Spybot and
Adaware
> are available at these websites.. both are free.. download and run them..
> don't forget to check for updates after you have started them..
>
>
>
> http://www.safer-networking.org/en/index.html
>
>
>
> http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/
>
>
>
> ... and this link is for the latest Microsoft helping..
>
>
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/softwa...
>
>
>
> Spybot has the ability to immunize a system, but there is better for this
> function, so download and run Spyware Blaster too.. again, check for
> updates..
>
>
>
> http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/
>
>
>
> The above programs all need to be updated after the initial install.. do
> this, and then run them..
>
>
>
> Time to turn ON System Restore.. this is obviously like turning it OFF, so
> just reverse the procedure..
>
>
>
> If you have had your Internet browser hijacked, that is to say, you get
> redirected through a search engine NOT of your choosing, you will need
> different tools.. the best website for tools to rid yourself of home page
> hijackers is.............
>
>
>
> http://www.pchell.com
>
>
>
> Mark Hasting has put much work into this site.. it is an invaluable site,
> both for reference and fix-its..
>
>
>
> You must also run a firewall and anti-virus program.. here are some links
> for you..
>
> http://www.mcafee.com
>
> http://www.zonealarm.com
>
> http://www.kerio.com
>
> http://www.sygate.com
>
> http://www.avast.com
>
> http://www.grisoft.com
>
>
>
> If you do not run a firewall and anti-virus solution, you are leaving
> yourself open to attacks of all kinds.. these two types of program are
your
> first line of defence..
>
>
>
> So by now, your system should be in reasonable shape.. you will have tools
> 'locked and loaded', ready for weekly use against those who seek to
destroy
> your pleasure.. incorporate these into a housekeeping policy that includes
> running Defragmenter and Disk Cleanup, and you will be able to easily
> maintain your system..
>
>
>
> Please return to this thread and provide feedback.. it is the only way
that
> helpers here can determine how effective the advice given has been..
>
>
>
> Good luck..
>
>
> --
> Mike Hall
> MVP - Windows Shell/User
>
>
> "Ninip" <gwen6039@home.com> wrote in message
> news:%233HEULKrFHA.3788@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > Hi everyone
> > I hope someone can help me, I am fairly new to computers.
> > I have a 2 month old computer. HP Pavillion running WINXP with DVD
burner
> > and a CD Drive.
> >
> > I have had it in to the store for repairs (STAPLES) twice now. I will
> > have
> > to take it in again.
> > Problem is I will be using it fine and then walk away and when I come
back
> > later the screen goes to black with the words Reboot and select proper
> > boot
> > media.
> > So i do that and nothing works I cannot get into windows. I will try
this
> > on and off during the day and then will sometimes get to the screen
where
> > it
> > shows a bunch of messages including Master Boot Record Error. One time
it
> > said backup your files hard drive failure imminent.
> >
> > The thing is the last time I took it in for repair on this problem (last
> > week) the tech said it started up fine but he saw spyware on it when he
> > did
> > a scan. So he sold me Spysweeper and charged for installation ($68.00)
> > Said the problem was spyware. There was already a spyware program on my
> > computer preinstalled plus Norton Security with all the bells and
> > whistles.
> > Like I said this is a brand new computer.
> >
> > So I get this supposedly fixed computer home yesterday and start it up
no
> > problem. But later in the day it went to that boot screen again. (same
> > problem)
> >
> > So now I am using my old WINME computer to talk to you guys.
> >
> > Question is what is going on and how do I resolve this issue.
> >
> > Should I take it back for repair. Should I ask for a brand new one?
> >
> > Also if they exchange my computer, what about all my documents and
photos
> > that are on my computer, I have backups but I don't want to leave them
> > with
> > my personal info.
> >
> > Sorry this is so long but I don't know what to do and I am so
frustrated.
> > Thanks in advance.
> > I will await your replies anxiously.
> >
> >
>
>
Anonymous
August 29, 2005 5:30:35 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support (More info?)

Ninip

Before doing anything else to the computer, take it back and get the
technician to fire it up..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User


"Ninip" <gwen6039@home.com> wrote in message
news:eiGse7KrFHA.3720@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Thanks for all the goodwebsites and info.
>
> But I cannot get to my desktop to use any of these.
> My computer will not go beyond the HP screen and then it goes to a black
> screen with the words Reboot and select proper boot media.
> Thanks
>
> "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:uAPgZeKrFHA.716@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> Ninip
>>
>> You go to the Staples store with your computer, and you stand in the
>> computer department and make a fuss in front of any other customers
>> present.. when approached by management, you make it clear to them that
> you
>> will continue to do this until such time as they fix your computer..
>>
>> This assumes that it is a hardware problem of course.. Staples can't be
> held
>> responsible for what a computer user does to the computer after it has
> left
>> the store.. Staples is only responsible for defects caused during
>> manufacture and finishing..
>>
>> It would help your cause to take it to an independent computer technician
>> and get a second opinion on whether it is a hardware issue or not.. re.
>> spyware, it is unfortunate that computer users have to be so guarded
>> about
>> what they do and where they go..
>>
>> I will give you some things to do, none of them being beyond the scope of
> a
>> newbie.. but first, a few lines about what to avoid..
>>
>> Spyware and its associates lurk in all places.. P2P services are among
>> the
>> biggest spreaders of grief, so avoid programs like Kazaa for instance..
> even
>> if you install the so-called spyware free versions, files downloaded
>> from
>> these services can be devastating.. there are users of these services
>> that
>> deliberately make infected files available to the unwary.. others just do
>> not realise that their systems are infecting those of others in a covert
>> manner..
>>
>>
>>
>> Websites offering free programs often have 'sponsor' software that comes
>> down with them.. it is important when installing free programs to look
>> carefully at check boxes.. if you are given the option to NOT install
>> sponsor material, take it..
>>
>>
>>
>> Something else to be wary about.. replying to e-mails that offer services
>> that you really don't want.. replying very often leads to floods of other
>> internet 'waste'.. just delete them.. and one more thing on this topic..
>> I
>> have noticed that the Microsoft Cumulative Patch e-mail has surfaced
> again..
>> Microsoft do NOT send patches out to 'Dear Friend' EVER.. do not open
> them..
>> just delete them..
>>
>>
>>
>> Run the processes below in order.. none of the processes are beyond the
>> abilities of a newbie user..
>>
>>
>>
>> OK.. start by turning OFF the System Restore function.. click on the
>> Start
>> button.. right click on 'My Computer', then select Properties.. now
>> select
>> the 'System Restore' tab..
>>
>> Check the box "Turn off System Restore" or "Turn off System Restore on
>> all
>> drives".. now click on 'Apply'.. you will be asked if it is ok to lose
>> all
>> restore points.. answer YES to this.. now click on 'OK'
>>
>>
>>
>> Now to the removal process..
>>
>>
>>
>> Run a one shot virus remover.. I have found that McAfee Stinger works for
>> people.. download and run it..
>>
>>
>>
>> http://vil.nai.com/vil/stinger/
>>
>>
>>
>> Another alternative is ..
>>
>>
>>
>> http://housecall.trendmicro.com/housecall/start_corp.as...
>>
>>
>>
>> Finish this process first..
>>
>>
>>
>> You will also need to download Spyware removal software.. Spybot and
> Adaware
>> are available at these websites.. both are free.. download and run them..
>> don't forget to check for updates after you have started them..
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.safer-networking.org/en/index.html
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/
>>
>>
>>
>> ... and this link is for the latest Microsoft helping..
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/softwa...
>>
>>
>>
>> Spybot has the ability to immunize a system, but there is better for this
>> function, so download and run Spyware Blaster too.. again, check for
>> updates..
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> The above programs all need to be updated after the initial install.. do
>> this, and then run them..
>>
>>
>>
>> Time to turn ON System Restore.. this is obviously like turning it OFF,
>> so
>> just reverse the procedure..
>>
>>
>>
>> If you have had your Internet browser hijacked, that is to say, you get
>> redirected through a search engine NOT of your choosing, you will need
>> different tools.. the best website for tools to rid yourself of home page
>> hijackers is.............
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.pchell.com
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark Hasting has put much work into this site.. it is an invaluable site,
>> both for reference and fix-its..
>>
>>
>>
>> You must also run a firewall and anti-virus program.. here are some links
>> for you..
>>
>> http://www.mcafee.com
>>
>> http://www.zonealarm.com
>>
>> http://www.kerio.com
>>
>> http://www.sygate.com
>>
>> http://www.avast.com
>>
>> http://www.grisoft.com
>>
>>
>>
>> If you do not run a firewall and anti-virus solution, you are leaving
>> yourself open to attacks of all kinds.. these two types of program are
> your
>> first line of defence..
>>
>>
>>
>> So by now, your system should be in reasonable shape.. you will have
>> tools
>> 'locked and loaded', ready for weekly use against those who seek to
> destroy
>> your pleasure.. incorporate these into a housekeeping policy that
>> includes
>> running Defragmenter and Disk Cleanup, and you will be able to easily
>> maintain your system..
>>
>>
>>
>> Please return to this thread and provide feedback.. it is the only way
> that
>> helpers here can determine how effective the advice given has been..
>>
>>
>>
>> Good luck..
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mike Hall
>> MVP - Windows Shell/User
>>
>>
>> "Ninip" <gwen6039@home.com> wrote in message
>> news:%233HEULKrFHA.3788@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> > Hi everyone
>> > I hope someone can help me, I am fairly new to computers.
>> > I have a 2 month old computer. HP Pavillion running WINXP with DVD
> burner
>> > and a CD Drive.
>> >
>> > I have had it in to the store for repairs (STAPLES) twice now. I will
>> > have
>> > to take it in again.
>> > Problem is I will be using it fine and then walk away and when I come
> back
>> > later the screen goes to black with the words Reboot and select proper
>> > boot
>> > media.
>> > So i do that and nothing works I cannot get into windows. I will try
> this
>> > on and off during the day and then will sometimes get to the screen
> where
>> > it
>> > shows a bunch of messages including Master Boot Record Error. One time
> it
>> > said backup your files hard drive failure imminent.
>> >
>> > The thing is the last time I took it in for repair on this problem
>> > (last
>> > week) the tech said it started up fine but he saw spyware on it when he
>> > did
>> > a scan. So he sold me Spysweeper and charged for installation ($68.00)
>> > Said the problem was spyware. There was already a spyware program on
>> > my
>> > computer preinstalled plus Norton Security with all the bells and
>> > whistles.
>> > Like I said this is a brand new computer.
>> >
>> > So I get this supposedly fixed computer home yesterday and start it up
> no
>> > problem. But later in the day it went to that boot screen again.
>> > (same
>> > problem)
>> >
>> > So now I am using my old WINME computer to talk to you guys.
>> >
>> > Question is what is going on and how do I resolve this issue.
>> >
>> > Should I take it back for repair. Should I ask for a brand new one?
>> >
>> > Also if they exchange my computer, what about all my documents and
> photos
>> > that are on my computer, I have backups but I don't want to leave them
>> > with
>> > my personal info.
>> >
>> > Sorry this is so long but I don't know what to do and I am so
> frustrated.
>> > Thanks in advance.
>> > I will await your replies anxiously.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
Anonymous
August 29, 2005 6:27:38 PM

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"Ninip" <gwen6039@home.com> wrote in message
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> Also if they exchange my computer, what about all my documents and photos
>> that are on my computer, I have backups but I don't want to leave them
>> with
>> my personal info.

I would settle for nothing short of a replacement at this stage. Staples
can easily do it and just send the defective one back to HP, no skin of
their back. The tech said he could start it up last time you brought it in.
Have him/her start it up again and then copy your data to a CD-Rs. Make the
sure the CD-Rs are readable before accepting them.
Anonymous
August 29, 2005 6:27:39 PM

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I have backup cd's of my personal files and pics at home.
My question is Everything is still on the faulty computer which I cannot
delete because I cannot get into windows.
so when I give them back their faulty computer for an exchange, they will
also have all my personal info.
What do people do in a case like this?
Thanks

"Peter A. Stavrakoglou" <ntotrr@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> "Ninip" <gwen6039@home.com> wrote in message
> news:ex%23icJLrFHA.2624@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> > Also if they exchange my computer, what about all my documents and
photos
> >> that are on my computer, I have backups but I don't want to leave them
> >> with
> >> my personal info.
>
> I would settle for nothing short of a replacement at this stage. Staples
> can easily do it and just send the defective one back to HP, no skin of
> their back. The tech said he could start it up last time you brought it
in.
> Have him/her start it up again and then copy your data to a CD-Rs. Make
the
> sure the CD-Rs are readable before accepting them.
>
>
Anonymous
August 29, 2005 6:51:13 PM

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"Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote:



>
>OK.. start by turning OFF the System Restore function.. click on the Start
>button.. right click on 'My Computer', then select Properties.. now select
>the 'System Restore' tab..
>
>Check the box "Turn off System Restore" or "Turn off System Restore on all
>drives".. now click on 'Apply'.. you will be asked if it is ok to lose all
>restore points.. answer YES to this.. now click on 'OK'
>
>

No. Nay. Never.

Never repeat never disable System Restore on an infected computer
until *after* the infection has been cleaned up. Restoring back to an
infected state is still preferable to having a computer left unusable
because of a botched cleanup.

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

In memory of a dear friend Alex Nichol MVP
http://aumha.org/alex.htm
Anonymous
August 29, 2005 10:36:06 PM

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Ron

In more than a few cases, System Restore is paralysed anyway.. I don't even
have it enabled on mine..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User


"Ron Martell" <ron.martell@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
>>
>>OK.. start by turning OFF the System Restore function.. click on the Start
>>button.. right click on 'My Computer', then select Properties.. now select
>>the 'System Restore' tab..
>>
>>Check the box "Turn off System Restore" or "Turn off System Restore on all
>>drives".. now click on 'Apply'.. you will be asked if it is ok to lose all
>>restore points.. answer YES to this.. now click on 'OK'
>>
>>
>
> No. Nay. Never.
>
> Never repeat never disable System Restore on an infected computer
> until *after* the infection has been cleaned up. Restoring back to an
> infected state is still preferable to having a computer left unusable
> because of a botched cleanup.
>
> Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
> --
> Microsoft MVP
> On-Line Help Computer Service
> http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
>
> In memory of a dear friend Alex Nichol MVP
> http://aumha.org/alex.htm
Anonymous
August 29, 2005 10:39:51 PM

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Ninip

Erase your stuff off.. come to some arrangement with Staples/HP, but don't
rely on them clearing the drive.. if it is as broken as others are
suggesting, it will be impossible to get anything meaningful from it unless
taken to a professional and very expensive recovery service..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User


"Ninip" <gwen6039@home.com> wrote in message
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>I have backup cd's of my personal files and pics at home.
> My question is Everything is still on the faulty computer which I cannot
> delete because I cannot get into windows.
> so when I give them back their faulty computer for an exchange, they will
> also have all my personal info.
> What do people do in a case like this?
> Thanks
>
> "Peter A. Stavrakoglou" <ntotrr@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:#dsTXdMrFHA.2212@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> "Ninip" <gwen6039@home.com> wrote in message
>> news:ex%23icJLrFHA.2624@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> > Also if they exchange my computer, what about all my documents and
> photos
>> >> that are on my computer, I have backups but I don't want to leave them
>> >> with
>> >> my personal info.
>>
>> I would settle for nothing short of a replacement at this stage. Staples
>> can easily do it and just send the defective one back to HP, no skin of
>> their back. The tech said he could start it up last time you brought it
> in.
>> Have him/her start it up again and then copy your data to a CD-Rs. Make
> the
>> sure the CD-Rs are readable before accepting them.
>>
>>
>
>
Anonymous
August 30, 2005 4:18:08 AM

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"Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>Ron
>
>In more than a few cases, System Restore is paralysed anyway.. I don't even
>have it enabled on mine..


The general consensus amongst those who specialize in virus and
spyware cleanups is that System Restore should not be intentionally
disabled until after the malware has been cleaned up.

See. for example, MVP Bert Kinney's System Restore web pages:
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/spyware.html

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

In memory of a dear friend Alex Nichol MVP
http://aumha.org/alex.htm
!