XP machines cant access 2k machines!?!?!?!

[tdean]

heres my little network problem...
2 xp pro machines
1 win2k pro machine with printer attached
all set up for dynamic ip
all attached to linksys router
all in workgroup

xp machines can access each other but not 2k machine although they can see it in network places. The 2k machine can access each xp machine.


anyone know how i can get the xp machines to be able to access the 2k machines?

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[Toejam31]

I ran into something similar recently. Two WinXP machines, and one Win2K, all attached to a router, within the same workgroup. Both WinXP systems could see and access each other, and the Win2K system could access both WinXP computers. But neither WinXP system could access the Win2K computer. (Which was partially due to the permission level of the default shares assigned to each hard drive partition.)

First, I added a new administrative account to the Win2K system. Then I deleted the current network shares for each hard drive partition I wished to access ... created new shares, and added new permissions. Under comments for each new share, I typed "default share." The permissions for each share included the regular administrative account, the normal user account used to log into the system, and the newly created administrative account. Otherwise, I'd have been locked out of the Win2k system's network shares from within the Win2K GUI! Just adding Administrator(s) wasn't enough; each account that must have permission has to be added one by one.

Then I added the NetBEUI protocol to the LAN connection for each system, and after rebooting each computer, was able to type in a user name and password from each WinXP machine to access the Win2K system.

WinXP doesn't come with a MS supported version of NetBEUI already installed, so you have to get the files off the WinXP CD, and add them manually, so the protocol is available.

<A HREF="http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=301041" target="_new">HOW TO: Install NetBEUI on Windows XP</A>

Note that a user name must be the machine name + the user name, as in Billscomputer\username.

That's all there was to it.

Toey

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[tdean]

thanks tj!!! looks like its gonna work. now that i have your attention, can i ask you about two things i havent been able to figure out?

1)my xp system at home loses connection with my mapped drives and i get an error saying the drive could not be restore b/c the name is in use (or something similar) any ideas how to resolve that?

2)my network is very very slow. i have a linksys router, a 2k server and 2 xp clients. the clients are using the dns ip of the server. the internet is fast, but the internal lan is very slow.

any suggestions are appreciated.

thanks again!!

Too much agreement is like too many fat guys in a hottub; it's still relaxing, but you end up with some nasty broth.

 

[blah]

hehehe, and everybody says WinXP is the best networking system there is. jeez, it can't even connect to Win2k box (or visa versa in my case).

..this is very useful and helpful place for information...

 

[Toejam31]

It doesn't work worth a darn to get into computers hosting older operating systems if the TCP/IP WINS is set to pick up NetBIOS settings from a router running as a DHCP server. Which is why adding NetBEUI is necessary in situations like this. We should all thank good 'old Bill for removing support for the protocol.

And Simple File Sharing is definitely not the cat's meow if you like having control over the security settings.

But hey, otherwise, it does alright.

Toey

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[Toejam31]

These questions are not easily answered, as you might guess.

For the first, I'd suggest that you make a change, and don't allow the mapped drives to automatically reconnect when you log in. I'm not getting the error over here, and that's might be a possible solution, as I don't connect to the mapped drives until I actually need to access them.

As for the slow network, there are a couple of things you might try. One would be to delete the Registry key that allows WinXP to search for remote computers for scheduled tasks:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/Current Version/Explorer/RemoteComputer/NameSpace.
Find a key named {D6277990-4C6A-11CF-8D87-00AA0060F5BF}.
Right click on it and delete it.
Restart

Another would be to reset the TCP/IP protocol:

<A HREF="http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;299357" target="_new">How to Reset Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) in Windows XP</A>

And a possible third solution:

<A HREF="http://www.ss64.com/nt/slow_browsing.html" target="_new">Slow network browsing in Windows XP</A>

See if these things help improve the speed.

Toey

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[Toejam31]

By the way, with the last tweak, you may have to manually create the DWORD value of NoRecentDocsNetHood, and set it with a data value of 1, both in:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]

And ...

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\policies\explorer]

As the value may not already exist.

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[tdean]

wow, tj... thats awesome!!! you are a wealth of knowledge, thank you for taking the time to help!!!!

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[tdean]

well, now im trying the ip reset command from the first link you sent me, and i keep getting a network command shell debug window. its not working for me. basically, not only is my network unbelievably slow, i cant use network neighborhood or any mapped drives on this machine 5 minutes after i reboot. if i immediately open the drives and leave them open, i dont have a problem. thats not the way to do it of course....

heres all i could get from the error. it wouldnt let me copy the full report.

AppName: netsh.exe AppVer: 5.1.2600.1240 ModName: winsmon.dll
ModVer: 5.0.2143.1 Offset: 00003cd4


Too much agreement is like too many fat guys in a hottub; it's still relaxing, but you end up with some nasty broth.<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by tdean on 12/14/03 00:25 AM.</EM></FONT></P>