New Dell 8400 - I thought there was a 1394 Firewire port?

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It is an option at the time of purchase. If you bought a SoundBlaster
Audigy card you have firewire.


cpy@straw.com wrote:
> Am I missing a port?
> I was sure I was supposed to be getting a Firewire port!
>
> I'd planned to plug my digital video into it! Manual mentions it, but
> I've inspected the back closely and no sign of it.
>
> It's 2:20 am and I've been tracking down disks to re-load my programs
> from my lost hard drive of 2 weeks ago on old Inspiron - I think I'll
> just quit and go to bed!
>
> SusanD
>

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cpy@straw.com wrote:

>
>Am I missing a port?
>I was sure I was supposed to be getting a Firewire port!

If this is like the olden days, Dimension 8400, being the top of the
line, most likely would have one. But this is today and Dell is
cutting corners at the expense of quality. Audigy sound card has it.

>
>I'd planned to plug my digital video into it! Manual mentions it, but
>I've inspected the back closely and no sign of it.
>
>It's 2:20 am and I've been tracking down disks to re-load my programs
>from my lost hard drive of 2 weeks ago on old Inspiron - I think I'll
>just quit and go to bed!
>
>SusanD

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"David" <davids1165@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Tom Scales wrote:
>>>Firewire just isn't that popular. USB2 has become the 'favorite'.
> USB does not work with digital camcorders!!
> I do think it is quite odd that Dell does not include a firewire
> port or ports on any of their computers by default.
> Dave
>


The 9100 has 1394 by default.

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Mine has a usb interface AND firewire. The usb is for
the still camera function of the camcorder. Still need
a firewire for the video...all of them are this way that I know
of..Did you read the link you posted...make multiple reference
to firewire for video transfer.
This is a quote from the particular camera in your link.
"With great picture quality, large LCD, USB and i.Link and rich set of
features, the TRV17 is a joy and a good value"
The i.link is firewire.

Dave

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"David" <davids1165@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Tom Scales wrote:
>>>Firewire just isn't that popular. USB2 has become the 'favorite'.
> USB does not work with digital camcorders!!
> I do think it is quite odd that Dell does not include a firewire
> port or ports on any of their computers by default.
> Dave
>

Of course it does not. I didn't say it did. My point was that USB2 is more
popular as a general purpose port and a very small percentage of buyers
would ever use Firewire. Not that many people use a digital camcorder and
edit it on their PC and those that do would likely be careful about ensuring
their machine has such a port, particularly since it is available in TWO
ways during the order process -- either on the Audigy 2 card or as a
stand-alone care.

Tom

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"Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
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> "S.Lewis" <stew1960@cover.bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>> "David" <davids1165@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1120482363.182286.13280@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>> Tom Scales wrote:
>>>>>Firewire just isn't that popular. USB2 has become the 'favorite'.
>>> USB does not work with digital camcorders!!
>>> I do think it is quite odd that Dell does not include a firewire
>>> port or ports on any of their computers by default.
>>> Dave
>>>
>>
>>
>> The 9100 has 1394 by default.
>>
>
> Are you sure? I just looked at the specs and it talks about 7 USB2 ports
> but NO mention of Firewire.
>
> Tom
>


I'll be damned. I saw it, but didn't view the (optional) - so it's still an
upgrade. Mea culpa:

http://support.dell.com/support/ed [...] #wp1053609


Stew

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I have the 8400 with the Audigy card (with Firewire). At this point, I
don't need Firewire and all I know about it is that it's faster, right?
Does the Audigy USE this Firewire connection or is the premise here that I
have access to a firewire port via the soundcard?
Thanks,
Monica

"Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
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> "David" <davids1165@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Tom Scales wrote:
>>>>Firewire just isn't that popular. USB2 has become the 'favorite'.
>> USB does not work with digital camcorders!!
>> I do think it is quite odd that Dell does not include a firewire
>> port or ports on any of their computers by default.
>> Dave
>>
>
> Of course it does not. I didn't say it did. My point was that USB2 is
> more popular as a general purpose port and a very small percentage of
> buyers would ever use Firewire. Not that many people use a digital
> camcorder and edit it on their PC and those that do would likely be
> careful about ensuring their machine has such a port, particularly since
> it is available in TWO ways during the order process -- either on the
> Audigy 2 card or as a stand-alone care.
>
> Tom
>

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The Audigy doesn't use it, it just provides it on an odd assumption that if
you have a high-end sound card, you might be into video

Tom
"Monica" <monicakm@cox-internet.com> wrote in message
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>I have the 8400 with the Audigy card (with Firewire). At this point, I
>don't need Firewire and all I know about it is that it's faster, right?
>Does the Audigy USE this Firewire connection or is the premise here that I
>have access to a firewire port via the soundcard?
> Thanks,
> Monica
>
> "Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
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>>
>> "David" <davids1165@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1120482363.182286.13280@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>> Tom Scales wrote:
>>>>>Firewire just isn't that popular. USB2 has become the 'favorite'.
>>> USB does not work with digital camcorders!!
>>> I do think it is quite odd that Dell does not include a firewire
>>> port or ports on any of their computers by default.
>>> Dave
>>>
>>
>> Of course it does not. I didn't say it did. My point was that USB2 is
>> more popular as a general purpose port and a very small percentage of
>> buyers would ever use Firewire. Not that many people use a digital
>> camcorder and edit it on their PC and those that do would likely be
>> careful about ensuring their machine has such a port, particularly since
>> it is available in TWO ways during the order process -- either on the
>> Audigy 2 card or as a stand-alone care.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>
>

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Monica wrote:
>
> I guess faster than USB2 (transfer rate)?? I told you I didn't know
> anything about it LOL Thanks for answering my question about the
> availability of it

Even though the raw data makes USB 2.0 look faster than Firewire
(480 Mbps vs 400 Mbps), Firewire *is* faster.

Have a look at http://www.cwol.com/firewire/firewire-vs-usb.htm.

Notan

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Yes, there is a larger size connector. You need the one that goes from the
small size (camcorder) to fullsize (PC). If you find the sound card, it is
the port that looks a little like USB on the same card, except one end looks
like half of a diamond.

Tom
<cpy@straw.com> wrote in message
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> Yes, I did order the SB Card with the firewire port - got to get down
> on the floor again.
>
> the Firewire cable I have has a teeny end on it that fit the Firewire
> in my Dell Inspiron 8100 - are there larger size female 1394s too?
>
> Maybe the port I see that I don't recognize IS the 1394, but larger
> than the end on the cable I have?
>
> susanD

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Tom Scales wrote:
> The Audigy doesn't use it, it just provides it on an odd assumption that if
> you have a high-end sound card, you might be into video

The Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro External has an I/O Hub with
Front/Rear Panel Connectors. The card actually has 2 IEEE1394
connectors, one of which is used by the card to communicate with the
external hub, leaving one for the user. I went for this model to avoid
using a 2nd PCI slot & to put the connectors on my desktop (where
they're very convenient).

Specs from the Creative site:

* Headphone Out (1/4" Stereo Jack)
* Line In 1 (1/4" Stereo Jack , shared with Microphone In with Gain Control)
* Line In 2 (1/4" Stereo Jack)
* Line In 3 (2x RCA Jack)
* Optical SPDIF In/Out
* Coaxial SPDIF In/Out
* Digital Out for 5.1 support (6-channel SPDIF Output to Creative
digital speakers)
* 2x FireWire® (IEEE®1394) ports
* MIDI In / Out
* Infra-red Receiver
* AD_LINK 1 and AD_LINK 2 connectors

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"S.Lewis" <stew1960@cover.bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:BAaye.41448$Xv.34027@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
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| "David" <davids1165@gmail.com> wrote in message
| news:1120482363.182286.13280@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| > Tom Scales wrote:
| >>>Firewire just isn't that popular. USB2 has become the 'favorite'.
| > USB does not work with digital camcorders!!
| > I do think it is quite odd that Dell does not include a firewire
| > port or ports on any of their computers by default.
| > Dave
| >
|
|
| The 9100 has 1394 by default.
|
|
As does my Dimension 2400!

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| "Helen" <@abuse.roman.gov> wrote in message
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| "S.Lewis" <stew1960@cover.bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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| | "David" <davids1165@gmail.com> wrote in message
| | news:1120482363.182286.13280@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| | > Tom Scales wrote:
| | >>>Firewire just isn't that popular. USB2 has become the 'favorite'.
| | > USB does not work with digital camcorders!!
| | > I do think it is quite odd that Dell does not include a firewire
| | > port or ports on any of their computers by default.
| | > Dave
| | >
| |
| |
| | The 9100 has 1394 by default.
| |
| |
| As does my Dimension 2400!
|
| No, it doesn't. The 2400 does not come with a standard firewire port. Did
| you, by chance, order the Soundblaster Audigy 2 card? That adds the port.
|
| Tom
|

Nothing line knowledge by one who has never seen your system, yet in effect calls
you a liar because he has superior knowledge!

Pray tell o wise one, what is this: (it came with my original computer! you may dislike
that, but it doesn't change the facts!).

Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller

Helen

|

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"Helen" <@abuse.roman.gov> wrote in message
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"Helen" <@abuse.roman.gov> wrote in message
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"Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
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| "Helen" <@abuse.roman.gov> wrote in message
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| | "David" <davids1165@gmail.com> wrote in message
| | news:1120482363.182286.13280@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| | > Tom Scales wrote:
| | >>>Firewire just isn't that popular. USB2 has become the 'favorite'.
| | > USB does not work with digital camcorders!!
| | > I do think it is quite odd that Dell does not include a firewire
| | > port or ports on any of their computers by default.
| | > Dave
| | >
| |
| |
| | The 9100 has 1394 by default.
| |
| |
| As does my Dimension 2400!
|
| No, it doesn't. The 2400 does not come with a standard firewire port.
Did
| you, by chance, order the Soundblaster Audigy 2 card? That adds the
port.
|
| Tom
|

Nothing like knowledge by one who has never seen your system, yet in
effect calls
you a liar because he has superior knowledge!

Pray tell o wise one, what is this: (it came with my original computer!
you may dislike
that, but your disbelief doesn't change the facts! Poison will kill
even though you
believe it will not! Your belief doesn't change the fact!).

Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller

Helen

|
For a pictoral representation, go here:
http://www.ramelectronics.net/html [...] _card.html

So your point is? That you bought an add in card?
The 2400 still doesn't come stock with a 1394 port.

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"Helen" <@abuse.roman.gov> wrote in message
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"Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
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| "Helen" <@abuse.roman.gov> wrote in message
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| | "David" <davids1165@gmail.com> wrote in message
| | news:1120482363.182286.13280@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| | > Tom Scales wrote:
| | >>>Firewire just isn't that popular. USB2 has become the 'favorite'.
| | > USB does not work with digital camcorders!!
| | > I do think it is quite odd that Dell does not include a firewire
| | > port or ports on any of their computers by default.
| | > Dave
| | >
| |
| |
| | The 9100 has 1394 by default.
| |
| |
| As does my Dimension 2400!
|
| No, it doesn't. The 2400 does not come with a standard firewire port.
Did
| you, by chance, order the Soundblaster Audigy 2 card? That adds the port.
|
| Tom
|

Nothing line knowledge by one who has never seen your system, yet in effect
calls
you a liar because he has superior knowledge!

Pray tell o wise one, what is this: (it came with my original computer! you
may dislike
that, but it doesn't change the facts!).

Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller

Helen

Helen,

I know the specs of the 2400 inside out. I own one. I have no doubt that
this machine has a 1394 point. However, it is NOT a standard item on a
2400.

Ironically, Stew was wrong and the 9100 doesn't either.

I am not calling anyone a liar -- just misinformed on the specs that are
standard on a 2400.

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> | | "David" <davids1165@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> | | > Tom Scales wrote:
> | | >>>Firewire just isn't that popular. USB2 has become the 'favorite'.
> | | > USB does not work with digital camcorders!!
> | | > I do think it is quite odd that Dell does not include a firewire
> | | > port or ports on any of their computers by default.
> | | > Dave
> | | >
> | |
> | |
> | | The 9100 has 1394 by default.
> | |
> | |
> | As does my Dimension 2400!
> |
> | No, it doesn't. The 2400 does not come with a standard firewire port.
> Did
> | you, by chance, order the Soundblaster Audigy 2 card? That adds the
> port.
> |
> | Tom
> |
>
> Nothing line knowledge by one who has never seen your system, yet in
> effect calls
> you a liar because he has superior knowledge!
>
> Pray tell o wise one, what is this: (it came with my original computer!
> you may dislike
> that, but it doesn't change the facts!).
>
> Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
>
> Helen
>
> Helen,
>
> I know the specs of the 2400 inside out. I own one. I have no doubt that
> this machine has a 1394 point. However, it is NOT a standard item on a
> 2400.
>
> Ironically, Stew was wrong and the 9100 doesn't either.
>
> I am not calling anyone a liar -- just misinformed on the specs that are
> standard on a 2400.
>


Yep, Tom caught me when I incorrectly thought and posted that the new 9100
had firewire by default - it doesn't, and is still an option. (The few I've
seen were loaded up, apparently).

It's pretty apparent that Helen has an added PCI card of some sort on her
2400.


Stew

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Why not just use a USB2-to-Firewire conversion cable?
You can pick one for for $1 on ebay.
($2 if you go buy-it-now).

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d [...] 51054&rd=1

Dennis

> Am I missing a port?
> I was sure I was supposed to be getting a Firewire port!
>
> I'd planned to plug my digital video into it! Manual mentions it, but
> I've inspected the back closely and no sign of it.