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February 17, 2002 1:40:57 AM

.... with some retart that worked at a PC shop. It was worth posting...

...I went to a computer shop yesterday. I asked him what was better a Radeon 8500LE or a GF4 MX440.

Me: Hello im looking for a new video card
Him: Oh yes, Geforce 4 is new and fastest

Me: What about the Radeon 8500LE i heard it was fast and cheap
Him : Oh no, they try to trick you with big number 8500 doesnt mean its fast.

Me: Oh what would should i get then
Him: Geforce4 MX 440 its new and its a 4th generation GeForce. See the Radeon 8500LE stands for Radeon 8500 <font color=red>Lowest Edition</font color=red>, they disable features to cripple it.

Me: Actually i heard they disabled vertex and pixel shaders in the GeForce4 MX is this true.
Him: No, its a GeForce 4, the Radeon 8500LE cant beat a TNT2 M64

*I start to relieze its a nvidia zealot*

Me: So what about games like Doom 3 and Quake 4 ?
Him: The both the Radeon 8500 and the Radeon 8500 LE cant run it there both slow and you'll need a GeForce 4 to run it.

*Notice how he changes a GeForce4 MX to a Geforce4*

Me: I'll be leaving now your pretty nvidia baised ill goto another store
Him: ATi is crap, Anything with GeForce can beat anything ATi right now

Me: Dont worry when you start posting at forums like THG then you'll understand why your baised.
Him: I used to post at THG and i was one of the most beloved posters

Me: What was your name ?
Him: Hobbit

*i walk out of the door laughing my ass off and bought myself some lunch*

I Love playing on my GameCube or PC cuz there both ATi powered... :smile:

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February 17, 2002 1:50:21 AM

lol, I love this! :lol:  This is the funniest story I've heard in a while! :lol:  lol! :lol:  I wasn't around when Hobbit was on Tom's Hardware so I did a search on his posts, and boy, the guy mindlessly bashes ATI! lol! :lol:  I didn't realize nVidia trolls actually existed in this community. We seem so neutral now...

Edit: I just realized things were very bad on the Graphics Forum a year back. I'm glad I wasn't on THGC back then.

AMD technology + Intel technology = Intel/AMD Pentathlon IV; the <b>ULTIMATE</b> PC processor
February 17, 2002 2:04:13 AM

It was a year back. I learned so much, ppl would search info to use it against them.

I Love playing on my GameCube or PC cuz there both ATi powered... :smile:
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February 17, 2002 5:36:49 AM

this seems to fit into the topic too..I am also an AMD and ATI fan and there's this "shopnbc.com" show that sells computers and all of em are biased 'self-proclaimed experts'. there's this cheif promoter of the PCs they ahve at shopnbc.com show and he says ppl should by their products coz he himself sees to it that they get a good deal for he has been in the computer industry for 10+ years. The he compares AMD and Intel. He was selling a P4 1.7Ghz system and he said "be aware of other processor products for they deceive you just like the Athlon XP where they named it as 1800+ but it's real speed is only 1.5Ghz and ours is a 1.7Ghz"...YOU IDIOT HOW MUCH OF AN EXPERT ARE YOU IF YOU DO NOT KNOW ABOUT INSTRUCTIONS PER CYCLE AND WHO WOULD BELIEVE YOU ARE A PC EXPERT IF YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT HALF OF THE INDUSTRY!

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February 17, 2002 6:40:12 PM

yup

I Love playing on my GameCube or PC cuz there both ATi powered... :smile:
February 17, 2002 6:57:50 PM

Well since the guy was a THGie you coulda gone into some conversation or something to prove to him... but at least you know who he is, and that you won't need his help...
I like this idea! Go to a store and ask dumb questions at first, to see how dumb the PC guy is, and if he indeed IS, then start moving up towards harder Qs, like Pixel and Vertex, then they'll know you won't be tricked. Then YOU CONTROL THEM!!
I like to ask also about processors too! See how the PC guy's gonna tell you that the P4 1.7GHZ with SDRAM is the pummerhouse against an AthlonXP 1700!!

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February 17, 2002 8:48:44 PM

im going to another place tommorrow. Should i get a PC or MAC to use PhotoShop ???

Also i didnt knew it was hobbit till the end.

I Love playing on my GameCube or PC cuz there both ATi powered... :smile:
February 17, 2002 10:00:54 PM

And you assumed that the state of the forums now are bad and you thought about leaving! Think about here a year ago compared to now with 3 trolls!

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February 18, 2002 3:22:40 AM

1 year ago, this was the place. We had players and haters. Now its like whatever your right, instead of getting on google and finding stuff out.

I Love playing on my GameCube or PC cuz there both ATi powered... :smile:
February 18, 2002 7:14:52 PM

ey Eden, is a P4 1.7 with DDR RAM (or was it standard SDRAM)
better than XP 1700+ ??? I need to research but do you know how much more juice the P4 2.2 has over XP 2000+ .
Well I guess P4 is really for those into multimedia and uadio video stuff....thanks
February 18, 2002 8:04:49 PM

i'm an AMD man myself, so my recommendation of the athlon xp 1700+ might be a little biased;)
February 18, 2002 8:28:17 PM

forget the 1.7GHz P4. Either get the P4 1.6A or the P4 1.8A. Those two are excellent processors and excellent overclockers from what I'm hearing.

AMD technology + Intel technology = Intel/AMD Pentathlon IV; the <b>ULTIMATE</b> PC processor
February 18, 2002 8:47:01 PM

Quad P3 900mhz Xeons 2mb :*D, that would do the job.

wasnt being biased ;*p

I Love playing on my GameCube or PC cuz there both ATi powered... :smile:
February 19, 2002 12:00:55 AM

I'm hoping for your sake you knew this was sarcasm.

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February 19, 2002 12:02:26 AM

AMD_Man you prove yet again your unbiased opinions which remain top notch and I like that! You said the two P4s are good OCers, but you clearly added "From what I've been hearing". This shows there are still some who don't take info and spice it up before seeing proof. This'll do you good in the future.

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February 19, 2002 8:17:35 AM

I'd like to know what store this was that you met this subordinant fool! We could have a 'hobbit bashing meet' at the best buy lol!

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February 19, 2002 4:36:39 PM

sarcasm eh...well I only want to buy the best stuff for my buck. At first I was really geared up on P4 1.8 coz of it's MM capabilities and application optimizations but when I found out that XP1800+ is better and el cheapo, then that's the one I bought and at that time DDR RAM for P4 wasn't in it's madness yet...we'll next step for me is prolly something of P4 2.2 and up vs XP 2000+ and up.
February 20, 2002 3:45:26 PM

FYI, I think Eden was making a crack at the pre-fab machines proprietary makers try to hawk to the masses. Ever hear the expressions "sell the sizzle, not the steak?" Thats what they do.

Ibm/Compaq/Dell etc Salesrep: Its got 1.21 jigawatz!! its blinding fast!!
You: Um... did you get the word "jigawatz" from "Back to the Future?" Cuz I think you meant-
Salesrep: <interrrupts> Its SUPER fast!!
You: Umm... but its got cas3 SDRAM. And 2mb onboard graphics (shared mem, no less LOL!). My god, it doesn't even have an agp slot so I can't even upgrade to a decent card.

and so on... I might be exaggerating a little (me!? never ;)  ) but you get the point.


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February 20, 2002 4:18:04 PM

The only thing i'll buy from Dell is that 8100 notebook w/ R7500 and thats it.

THGC, saving 1 pc user from buying a GeForce4 MX at a time.
February 20, 2002 7:27:00 PM

Yeah, the Rad 7500 is somewhat sometimes showing even more hidden potential than the R200!! I mean did you see some tests where it actually went over the GF3 Ti200??
ATI really hides too much strengh before exploiting it...
But yeah that is one sweet notebook gameplay, although the 3dMark scores are still sucky...

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