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Gf2mx 400 NOT WORKING although it should!

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February 21, 2002 2:46:47 PM

I just today purchased a GF2 MX 400. I went to my system, took out the old voodoo2 and left the display adapter (s3 tri 64v+) I looked at the installation instructions. "put card in agp slot... boot up machine... install drivers by clicking on display props- advanced- change"
I did all of this and it didnt work. After screwing up the drivers a bit. taking the old card out (I realised i was supposed too) etc. and reintalling the old again to repeat the proccess, reinstalling windows etc. I found that the GF2 would not work, i could boot up in safe mode fine, but in normal mode the PC restarted as soon as the windows screen should have appeared. ???

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February 21, 2002 4:09:57 PM

Ummm the guys here are going to need a little more info...like hardware (motherboard, OS, etc...) and what driver you tried to install?
February 21, 2002 4:39:50 PM

Uninstall the old voodoo driver in safe mode (delete everything related to 3dfx).
Restart in safe mode ,install the latest detonator drivers.
Reboot again in normal mode it should work now.

The reason of the restart is the 3dfx driver whit the MX400 are incompatible.

Good luck.


The faster a computer is, the faster it will reach a crashed state :eek: 
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February 21, 2002 8:21:41 PM

Thankyou for the help. The Voodoo2 was pci, I completely removed it before I proceeded. I left the display adapter (also PCI) in at first. that doesnt seem to be the problem unless you mean something else. Laso, the motherboard is a Soyo 6BE (For Pentium 2) with a 1x or 2x (dunno) AGP slot, both of which my card supports. After reintalling the old DA (s3tri64v+) and reinstalling windows, I then just took out the old card, inserted the new one in the AGP and then rebooted, the drivers intalled from disk, my system rebooted and then the problem began. Dont know what version the drivers are, but theyre the ones that came with the board.

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February 21, 2002 8:25:57 PM

Arrrrrrrgggg!!!!! My motherboard is Pentium 2 slot but the CPU is celeron! the board supports the chip (In theory) does the CPU need 2?!!!!!

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February 21, 2002 8:54:06 PM

When you take the PCI one out and put the AGP one in ,do you in the bios to select the AGP slot as video setting?



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February 22, 2002 5:30:51 AM

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Arrrrrrrgggg!!!!! My motherboard is Pentium 2 slot but the CPU is celeron! the board supports the chip (In theory) does the CPU need 2?!!!!!

I'm confused. "My moterboard is Pentium 2" means you currently have a slot 1 motherboard with a PII chip in it?

"but the CPU is Celeron" means you want to put a Celeron in it right?

If the board is Slot 1 and the Celeron is slot 1, then it should be fine.

"does the CPU need 2" Need to what?
February 22, 2002 5:34:41 AM

old DA (s3tri64v+) ? This is the integrated video? I guess it has to be since you were using a Voodoo 2 which is a 3D accelerator only, therefore it needs an integrated video chip for 2D.

Have you looked in the BIOS yet?
When installing your new Ge2 MX400, make sure you disable the integrated video in the BIOS, and that the AGP is selected for the video device in the BIOS.

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Flyboy on 02/22/02 02:35 AM.</EM></FONT></P>
February 22, 2002 5:59:04 PM

Sorry i confused U, I meant to put Graphics card instead of chip (concentration lapse) what I mean is that although my mother board supports the GF2, the chip may not. My question is, Does the minimum spec for the GF2 to work, "pentium 2" mean that you have to have a Pentium 2 or is it a guideline that only Pentium 2 and onwards motherboards have AGP slots?

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February 22, 2002 6:06:43 PM

The Tri 64v+ is not an intrigated chip. Its a PCI display adapter. Ive fiddled with the bios and cant get the GF2 working. Before the drivers are installed, the GF2 works (in 640x480 16 colour) as soon as windows detects the hardware, installs the drivers and reboots the problem begins.

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February 22, 2002 7:50:38 PM

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is it a guideline that only Pentium 2 and onwards motherboards have AGP slots?

Ohhh ok...yeah it should still work! The GeF2 shouldn't have any problems with a Celeron.
a b U Graphics card
February 23, 2002 2:03:57 AM

It could be a lot of things, like your power supply, or worse, if you're using an AT motherboard, the AGP slot not getting enough power from the onboard voltage regulator.
It could also be a driver issue.

It's not an incompatability with your CPU.

I suspect either the power supply or drivers. The easiest way to fix driver problems like this is to do a fresh clean install of Windows with the old 6.31 driver, then after everything is fixed, try later driver revisions for more speed, if you like.

What's the frequency, Kenneth?
February 23, 2002 11:10:56 AM

I think you may be on to something with it being a problem with the power supply. But remember, the board works fine before the drivers are installed, or in safe mode. I have reinstalled windows 98 (upgrade version) twice now, once from dos with the new card (hoping that windows would set it all up for me)and once from windows with the old card in place. I have now tried the latest detanator Drivers and during setup (in safe mode as its the only way to start up) it says that there is no chip detected, but this is probably just because its in safe mode. The other drivers detected the card fine when I installed them. Do I need to reinstall the entire system to be sure its a driver problem?

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February 23, 2002 11:13:50 AM

BTW the board is a soyo 6BE. Whatever AT means (if its not just a mobo make) hopefully youll know from this.

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a b U Graphics card
February 23, 2002 2:00:10 PM

ok a couple of things to try.
Go to start,programs,controll panel, add/remove programs. Now remove everything related to video driversNow go to start, programs, windows explorer. Drive c ,windows, INFfolder. Remove all S3 and 3dfxinf files.
Now remove the video cards except for the mx. Some cards do not support dual display under windows in there drivers. The S3 trio 64 i believe does not. So this will cause windows to crash with any card except the voodoo2 3D only cards.you do not need this card any more the MX does 2d&3d.
Try this along with the above suggestions.

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February 23, 2002 2:48:39 PM

sorry but already tried all of that. the problem is not a driver conflict. It could be faulty drivers themself tho.

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a b U Graphics card
February 23, 2002 4:32:14 PM

You don't have that problem then, which leaves you with the possibilities that either your power supply is not adequate, or that you DO have a driver problem. I would try this-delete all files from the 3DFX driver manually, then go to guru3d.com, download detonator destroyer, and an older driver revision 6.31. Then run detonator destroyer, reboot, and install the 6.31 driver. If this solves your problem, you can try newer drivers (also avialable at guru3d.com) to increase performance, and use detonator destroyer to remove any that don't work.

What's the frequency, Kenneth?
a b U Graphics card
February 23, 2002 10:27:32 PM

Oh, you can have a power problem that only shows itself when you install the drivers, because the card draws more power once its features are enabled.

What's the frequency, Kenneth?
February 24, 2002 8:37:02 AM

Ok this post maybe getting a bit to long, so heres a summary:
*Remove old voodoo card from PCI and deleted drivers
*Installed the Geforce 2 in the AGP slot
*Messed it up because had left the display adapter in (S3 TRIO 64v+) note: This is the 1st Graphics card I have intalled, and I thought that I would need to intall the drivers before I hooked the VGA up to the GF2 or I wouldnt be able to see anything to intall the drivers.
*Completely reinstalled the old setup when I learnt that I had to take the old card out, put the new 1 in and boot up.
*Installed the new card correctly, rebooted, the system restarted itself every time windows tried to load. (dos appears normal and the computer works in safe mode)
*Tweaked the bios settings (AGP arpeture...)no result
*Reinstalled windows in dos, hoping it would set the card up automatically.
*The problem has been narowed down to either a driver problem(I have tried to install the latest detanator in safe mode but it can not detect the card), or a power supply problem.
*The card IS compatible (1x,2x,4x)

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a b U Graphics card
February 24, 2002 1:29:15 PM

Uninstall all old drivers.
Turn comp off. Remove BOTH old cards. INstall new card.
Start comp. when windows detects new hardware. Install STANDARD PCI GRAPHICS ADAPTOR. This should clear out all registry entries for the old cards. REstart computer.
After windows has loaded. Right click my comuter,click properties. Click device manager tab. Click "plus sign next to display adaptors.
click on pci graphics adaptor. click properties,click driver tab. Now click update driver.click next. Click display a list of drivers in a spicific location . Click have disk. Point to the folder which has the driver you want to install. Click ok. click next. click finish and restart your computer.
IF you follow these steps exactly and you still have problems, Make sure you have Fast writes and Side band adressing DISSABLED in bios.
If this fails then you have a hardware problem, Your motherboard does not supply enough power to run this card.

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a b U Graphics card
February 24, 2002 1:47:07 PM

It's amazing how many people never read the install manual that came with their hardware.

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February 24, 2002 1:52:30 PM

grrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!! Thats exactly what I did. Read the install manual. It told me to put the new card in, not take the other cards out, just to put the new one in (Of course I planned to take out the old ones lateron, when the new card worked). I have already unintalled every trace of the other cards! I dont have any special AGP features like fast write.

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a b U Graphics card
February 24, 2002 2:03:13 PM

one other thing I just thought of.
Click start ,run, type in MSCONFIG ,click OK.
click startup. LOOK for any entries pertaining to your old cards. Such as overclocking utilities etc.... Remove the checkmark beside any that may appear.

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a b U Graphics card
February 24, 2002 5:33:05 PM

His motherboard is a Slot 1 ATX, made by a reputable manufacturer. His card is a low wattage unit. The chance of it being a problem with the board is nill.

What's the frequency, Kenneth?
a b U Graphics card
February 24, 2002 9:52:58 PM

Yes i looked up his board. He should not have any problems running this card.So it has to be software somewhere. Unless he has a bad agp slot or something weird like that.

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February 25, 2002 12:38:14 PM

Hi, I just had a thought: Maybe the IRQ of the new card clashes with one of the other components. Worth checking out.
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