The R8500 Speed Boost is HERE (sort of)!

AMD_Man

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Well, for Win9X at least. There are new leaked R8500 drivers for Win2k/XP but they don't seem to contain the OpenGL fix. <A HREF="http://www.maxreboot.com/newspro/viewnews.cgi?newsid1015064005,81602," target="_new">Here</A>, however, you can download the 9017 beta drivers which reportedly improve the R8500's performance by up to 40% in OpenGL on average (It may raise the minimum FPS in games by up to 400%, from the graphs I've seen).

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nVidia is still the king of graphics cards, even an OLD geforce 3 ti500, or a OC'd ti200 beat out the R8500, and now theres a geforce 4 ti4600 thats WAY faster! Sigh, if only i had an extra four hundred bucks.

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nVidia is still the king of graphics cards, even an OLD geforce 3 ti500, or a OC'd ti200 beat out the R8500, and now theres a geforce 4 ti4600 thats WAY faster! Sigh, if only i had an extra four hundred bucks.
That's not quite true anymore. I'd like to see a review with the new drivers. I'm guessing the R8500 is significantly faster than the GF3Ti500. All for a good $160USD or $289 CDN! Plus, you can always overclock the R8500.

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AMD_Man im sorry but i must disagree with you on this. Maybe new drivers have put distance between it and the Ti200, but i cannot believe that it is faster than a Ti500, especially when OC'd. Cause the Ti's im sure can be OC'd more.

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eden

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Don't listen to this troll, he's been acting that way since he came here.
Personally I am glad to see ATI finally standing up as the Canadian supplier of graphics. They've truly shown value and performance in one package just like AMD!
Although Nvidia still leads in graphical edges, ATI has done a lot by itself and has advanced. Perhaps it will dominate them, all I know is they both are awesome!

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Screw you both, what i have said is fact, and the only place where Ati currently dominates is in the laptop graphics market.

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eden

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I agree partially on that sentence. TRUE they currently have a jaw-dropping mobile card for sure, FALSE they are not market leading or not as good as Nvidia.

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When i say dominate, i mean in performance, and the mobile radeon 7500 is the leader. The best nVidias got is the geforce2 go which is not as good.

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Actually, you're wrong, ATI had 42% of the U.S. retail market in 2001. ATI may currently not have the fastest GPU but they have the best bang for the buck right now. For $289CDN or $160 USD, you can get an R8500 that will outperform anything nVidia has for the same price.

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I wish it would be that cheap in Canada, the cheapest I can find it here is 431.00$ plus taxes (here 15% taxes, it bites). Can't believe something Canadian get priced up that high, might worth driving down to the US and buy one there. For real.

So far the best priced <A HREF="http://www.microbytes.com/vid.htm" target="_new">place</A> where I live.

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It is that cheap in Canada. Go <A HREF="http://www.canadacomputers.com" target="_new">here</A>. They have the retail Radeon 8500 for $289 and the OEM Hercules Radeon 8500 for $229.

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can anyone give a tough estimate of how the radeon 7000 or 8000 series would rank in fps under opengl(in a game like counterstrike) compared to the other nvidias?

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Counterstrike wouldn't be a very good example because if you could disable the FPS cap in Counterstrike (I believe you can but I don't know how), then the R7500, R8500, GF3, GF4 would all be scoring from 200-400fps. Counterstrike is a very old game and you really don't need more FPS in that game.

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check it out!!!
they have new leaked/beta drivers out for win 2k/xp.
driver version: 6037
<A HREF="http://www.maxreboot.com/newspro/viewnews.cgi?newsid1015036396,63290," target="_new">here</A>

<b><A HREF="http://gamershq.madonion.com/compare2k1.shtml?2649487" target="_new">P4 + DDR333</A>=<font color=blue>OK</font color=blue></b>
 

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Get out of my Graphics Section... Now you, Troll !!!! Before i send a request to Fredi...

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oh sorry, at first glance i thought you were referring to AMD Man, and i like that guy and was about to defend him!

"dude your getting a dell", is that kid trying to say he wants to stick his 'dell' in you?
 

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son of a biatch! I feel so ripped off now! When I need something again I'll look it up and might just drive, I'm in Montreal Que, they're in Ont.

Now I'm debating over getting a Noblesse case and an Antec 400W PS, or just getting the PS. Might get both if I sell my case

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Well correction the best nvidia has is the geforce 4 to go and the radeon 7500 still beats it in price and performance and most importantly in power management. Its starting to become obvious your knowledge of the graphics card world is not much. The the TI 500 is way overpriced compared to the performance the r8500 produces, and imagine ATI still haven't released their performance 9048 drivers yet.