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March 5, 2002 4:40:04 AM

I've been wondering what would be better, getting a new cpu (athlon xp, P4) and getting a cheap card card wich will not last too long (maybe a geforce 2 mx?), or getting a geforce 4 4600 and keeping my p3 600 128mb pc100 sdram?
how much processing power do games nowadays require when u have a really good video card?

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March 5, 2002 4:48:43 AM

the PIII will be a huge bottleneck for the ti4600...but then again...the gf2mx will be the bottleneck for the AXP or P4....lemme think...
well...it depends on what you're going to do with your computer...id suggest getting the AXP or P4 and get the cheap card....but dont get the gf2 mx....try to get at least the gf2 ti or even a gf3 ti200...that'll lower the bottleneck a tad...but i wouldnt recommend getting the ti4600 w/ your PIII...

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March 5, 2002 4:58:52 AM

What video card do you currently have?

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March 5, 2002 5:02:11 AM

ye that's rite. it would be wise for you to get a Ti200 or GF2 Ti.. actaully i think you'll be better off getting a GF2 Ti since it's really cheap at the moment and it's a reasonably strong card, i'm using a Xp 1.6 Gainward GF2 Ti (4ns memory )and i can still run most of the new games quite well eg: reso at 1024x768x16 with 60+fps.as pr497 have said, your 600 mhz CPU would be pulling your gaming performance down .. i recommand you to upgrading your memory to 256mb or more maybe pc133s if your mobo supports them. and probaably get a faster cpu pIII 800 maybe? then just use the comp for another 2 yr and get a new computer with gf5 or something.
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March 5, 2002 1:52:10 PM

Hi. I have a PIII 866 (133 FSB) w/512 PC133 RAM...the video card I bought is the RADEON 8500. I have no problems with slowness...I play Wolfenstein at 800x600 32-bit @ 90+ FPS...just thought you would like to hear a comparable system.
March 5, 2002 2:06:37 PM

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I play Wolfenstein at 800x600 32-bit @ 90+ FPS...just thought you would like to hear a comparable system.

You should be able to run it at 1024*768*32 and not lose any performance.

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March 5, 2002 11:20:40 PM

I currently have an ati all in wonder 128 pro and a voodoo2, so i do have to upgrade both cpu and video card
March 5, 2002 11:27:30 PM

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I currently have an ati all in wonder 128 pro and a voodoo2, so i do have to upgrade both cpu and video card


I would have to say yes. The Voodoo2 can't handle any modern game. Get yourself a modest mid-range GF2 and a 1GHz+ AMD or Intel processor and you'll be fine.

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March 6, 2002 12:52:59 AM

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Hi. I have a PIII 866 (133 FSB) w/512 PC133 RAM...the video card I bought is the RADEON 8500. I have no problems with slowness...I play Wolfenstein at 800x600 32-bit @ 90+ FPS...just thought you would like to hear a comparable system.

Just for comparings sake my friend with a Radeon 8500 and a 1.4 GHz Tbird can get over 100 FPS in 1280x1024 full quality. And I got similar results with an Athlon XP 1800+ and a regular Geforce 3.

For the price of a Retail Geforce 4 you can build the core of a computer. I'd recomend going to www.newegg.com because their prices are almost always good (or the vendor of your choice) and for maybe $435 shipped (estimation) you can get an Abit KR7A mobo, Gainward Ti200 Geforce 3 Golden Sample, Athlon XP 1600+, and 128 megs of Crucial memory. All components are very high quality and would probably allow some nice overclocking if you were willing. Some people have excelent results with the Gainward Ti200 and are able to get Ti500 speeds.
Or you could get all those other parts and instead of the nice video card get the visiontek Geforce 2 GTS-V which will flawlessly clock to Geforce 2 GTS speeds without a hitch (maybe faster) not to mention save you $100. I would have recomended the Epox 8KHA+ but in light of the recent problems with it and the Visiontek Ti4600 I don't think it'd be a good choice when you consider upgrading. Really there are countless options you could go with. Instead of an Athlon XP you could get a new Pentium 4 1.6a and overclock it to around 2-2.2 GHz but it all depends where you want to spend your money.

Basically Hayama for the price of a Geforce 4 you could build a very nice mid range setup allowing you to get much better results than just upgrading one part of components or the other.

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March 6, 2002 10:36:20 PM

I say go with happy mediums for both. That's what I recently did. Tired of waiting for the next big thing, eager for DX9 to arrive, I went with an Athlon XP1700 on an ECS K7S5A board ($155 online from Accubyte, pricewatch.com) and a retail ATI Radeon8500 for $150.

For current and soon-to-be-released games, IMO, you want a DX8.x compatble card (GF3/4, Radeon8500), and at least a P4 1.6/ XP1500+. You could get away with a slower CPU than that, perhaps a Duron 1.2 or PIII 1.2, but seeing as both the P4 1.6 and XP1500+ are nearly the same prices as their slower relatives, you may as well go with one of the faster chips.

Just my opinion. Spend a little less and you'll be more comfortable upgrading in a year or so. Personally, I prefer upgrading every year (sometimes more often than that) because irregardless of what I buy, even if it's top of the line, I always want somethng faster 6-12 months down the line.

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March 6, 2002 10:38:55 PM

How about an Athlon XP 1700+ and a GF3Ti200? You'd be able to enjoy new games and could put the system together for less than $400.

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March 7, 2002 1:54:24 PM

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How about an Athlon XP 1700+ and a GF3Ti200? You'd be able to enjoy new games and could put the system together for less than $400.

yea thats basically what i said :wink:

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