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a b $ Windows 7
January 17, 2009 7:56:27 PM

If you want a certain piece of software tested with Win 7 x64 please post here or PM me. I will try my best to see if those apps will work or even install as of now.



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Ok I installed Win 7 x64 yesterday(1/16/2009)

Here were a few things I noticed:

Unlike Vista and XP, the current BETA doesn't allow you to install the OS on to a removable drive. Including USB and FireWire. I have not tested it on eSATA yet.

If you have a old drive (I tried a 20GB first from a PIII PC first, then a 120Gb then a 80GB then a 40GB) it will report that the drive is about to fail. How ever, for this first drive I ran check disk and it was fine. I then tried to install it on a 120GB Seagate (from a Celeron D PC) and again the same thing. Again I ran check disk and it came up clean. Both of the above drives were from PCs that have been on about 10-20 hrs a day. Then finally I got a 40GB Samsung (From a X2 gaming PC, used only for gaming, I would say about 30-40 hrs a week) and Win 7 didn't complain about the drive. Ran check disk again and it came up clean too. Just to make sure check disk is right I tried a drive with known problems ( a 80GB Seagate) and check disk found the errors. So I am guessing the amount of hours that the drive has (which can be read through SMART) may be a cause as check disk found no errors. I even tried zero writing and still no luck.

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Software tested so far:
:bounce: 

FireFox 3.x .............................. Pass
SolidWorks 2007 ..................... Installed fine, but had problems with plug ins.
GIMP ........................................ Pass
AbiWord.................................... Pass
Adobe CS3 ............................... Pass, but had to install it using Compatibility Mode
Kapersky Tech Preview ............. Pass
AVG............................................ Pass
CCleaner.................................... Pass
MAGIX Movie Editor 14 ...............Fail, even with compatibility mode.
Adobe CS4................................. Fail
Paint.NET.................................... Fail
Damon Tools ............................ Pass, but had to install it using Compatibility Mode

nukemaster's list:
Quote:
I will add what I have tested at this point in time.

Games, Open GL games seem to need to be run in a window to work right. The flash and give a blind effect on both ATI and Nvidia cards with current drivers.

City Of Heroes/Villains - Works in windowed mode, flashes in full screen. Works(full screen) with the initial driver but is SUPER bright
Half Like 2, ep1 ep2, portal, tf2 - Works
Quake 2 - flashes(full screen)
Quake 1 - :)  Hell yeah
Bioshock - Works
Guild Wars - Works
Quake 4(Window) - Works
Serious Same 2 - Works
Zsnes - Works

Apps

Winamp - Works
Xfire - Works
ATI CCC - Works
Nvidia Control Pannel - Works
Realtek HD Audio - Works
Creative software(That Audigy2zs pack from Daniel-k) - seems to work.
IrfanView - Works
FireFox - Works
AVG free - Works
Virtual CloneDrive - Works(Reboot after install)
Frameworkx Shortcut overlay manager - Works(I can not stand those arrows on shortcuts)
IntelĀ® Matrix Storage Console - Works
VLC - Works
HWmon - Works
CPU-Z - Works
CoreTemp - Works
OpenOffice.org 3.0 - Works
Spybot - Search & Destroy - Works
SpywareBlaster - Works

I have not found anything that does not run. Well 16 bit apps don't work :( 
January 17, 2009 8:11:02 PM

Hi shadow, don't want to hijack the thread but would I run into any problems installing on a second partition of a data (2nd) drive in a dual boot with vista ultimate?

Does win7 have the option to install as a 2nd os?

from you and other posts, it seems like there isn't too many problems with software compatibility, so I'm thinking of installing it but didn't want to lose my vista install or my data drive. Thats why i'm thinking of partitioning the data drive for a test install
a b $ Windows 7
January 18, 2009 12:39:30 AM

^ I strongly recommend putting it on a separate drive so the boot paths/MBR doesn't get messed up. But, yes you can put it on a separate partition.
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January 19, 2009 9:45:06 PM

7 is still iffy at best. I like the look and feel but it is still to much of a beta for everyday use. Some programs seem to install for some and not for others. for example I installed CS3 with no issues and you had to use compatibility. I can't get farcry2 to work but many can. I am looking forward to its official release.
a b $ Windows 7
January 20, 2009 3:31:49 AM

anyone wanting to install it on same drive or over there current OS should know this

Do not trust any BETA software!

install it on a separate PC, hard drive, or use a virtual PC program to try it out. if your still persistent backup your important data before trying anything
January 20, 2009 3:58:00 AM

Shadow703793 said:

Kapersky Tech Preview ............. Pass


The Tech preview brought my install to a crawl. I installed the 8.0.0.1015 version.

January 20, 2009 10:22:45 AM

Any symantec programs seem to make it BSOD with the same error. No updates from Symantec yet.
January 20, 2009 11:40:31 AM

OK, here's a little info for you guys...

I partitioned my Gaming PC hard drive in half, 150/150, i have Win XP PRO SP3 32-bit on the C: drive and installed Win 7 64-bit on the other E: drive. I have installed the same exact games/programs on Win 7 that i have on Win XP (to the best of my ability) So far i have had not one problem with windows 7 and in fact, it is outperforming XP by a longshot. It is making use of all the memory i have installed, 4GB and 512 on video card. It brings up windows, any screen and internet pages much quicker and it's not as pesky as Vista. i will post back here if anything changes, but so far, the partition is working great for me...

Ps. Any beta drivers that i could not find, i just replaced with the Vista 64 drivers and the device worked properly... can we say Vista SP2???
January 20, 2009 12:16:38 PM

I've had only 1 issue, uninstalling ATI video drivers. I had ATI vista 64bit installed. The ATI win 7 beta driver came out. so i tried to uninstall the old driver. After the uninstall attempt, i ran a driver cleaner nothing worked. I had to reinstall win7.

The ATI win 7 beta drivers sucked so bad i had to try to uninstall it. Same thing, i could not uninstall the drivers. After another reinstall of win7 i went with Vista 64bit drivers.

I have installed Farcry2, CoD5, Left4dead all worked fine. ATI 8.12 vista 64 bit drivers gave me a nice, 10%, FPS improvement across the board.

I also installed AVG and Spywarblaster with no issues.

I came from win xp 32bit to win 7 64bit. I had 4G of memory and a 512M vid card, now 8G and a 512m card. Win7 64 bit sees all of it. It either uses or reserves 14% of my RAM, even if it
January 20, 2009 12:34:01 PM

oh man, thanks for the info, i was going to try and install the ATI Vista beta drivers when i got home, but i guess i will stick with the Vista 64 that i already have installed...
January 20, 2009 12:48:37 PM

Wait for ATI 9.1 drivers. I am reading that they should be out in a week or 2 and should support and fix most of the ATI driver issues with win 7 beta.
January 20, 2009 1:22:48 PM

yeah, i guess i'll have to wait, but even with the Vista 64 ATI drivers running on Windows 7, i see a decent gain over Win XP Pro 32-bit
January 20, 2009 6:11:06 PM

Interesting... I installed Win7 on an old 80GB SATA drive (server drive, rarely has ever been spun down in over ~3 years) without any issues.

I also installed it on a 40GB IDE Hitachi Deskstar with no mention of imminent disk failure.

I for one was expecting some problems installing on an HP/Compaq desktop, and aside from sound driver issues, everything else works top notch; smaller memory footprint, about 0.1-0.2 more performance out of the Windows Performance Index (not like that means a whole lot, but even seat of the pants "feels" faster).

Hugely smoother than Vista retail a few weeks after it came out :o 
January 20, 2009 6:20:53 PM

Shadow: I unplugged my current hard drive and booted/loaded Win7 onto an eSATA hard drive enclosure. Working fine.

Curnel_d:Concerning antivirus...if you go to the Mircrosoft provided page, linked to the warning about having no virus protection, it lists AVG, Kaspersky and Norton, but when you go to Norton, it's also a beta of 360 just for Win7, which seems to work great. It's only a 15 day trial, which is such a joke. Why would I buy a product soley designed for a beta OS? Money grubbers!!!!
January 20, 2009 6:29:02 PM

yeah, it's sad, Microsoft should have come to terms with a security suite company and bundled it with Win 7. but no bother, i'll just use my partition with Win XP to surf porn and the like... HAHA!
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a b $ Windows 7
January 20, 2009 7:48:04 PM

I have windows 7 installed on a second partition

dual booting with xp right now

I've had zero issues in terms of technical stuff... I mean yeah i've done some extensive reg editing and stuff but I don't consider that major as it was easily fixed anyway

Symantec has ZERO issues with windows7 I don't know what version your using but I'm running the 64 bit version fine... didn't even have to run in compatibility mode... basically no BSODs whatsoever


Plus I love windows 7 WAY more than XP... I never boot into xp anymore unless I need a file from it lol...



Has anyone actually had a bsod with windows 7? I've only had a couple crashes and they were all fixable with a explorer.exe and endtask and then run explorer.exe
a b $ Windows 7
January 20, 2009 9:39:08 PM

"Gee Vista is so full of bugs"... oh wait this is windows 7 im sorry... LOL pffftttttt, shouldnt a 'beta' baised on Vista work? :pt1cable: 

/end_rant

ok if all your hdds are reported faulty, have you changed the cable? and set the master/slace/cs settings correctly? Dont use CS!




Also note when your dual booting etc Windows will always modify the first hdd's boot section to 'point' to its drive so its going to be different reguardless if you remove the second driver when your finnished, not to say all is lost or anything.
January 20, 2009 10:04:42 PM

captaincharisma said:
anyone wanting to install it on same drive or over there current OS should know this

Do not trust any BETA software!

install it on a separate PC, hard drive, or use a virtual PC program to try it out. if your still persistent backup your important data before trying anything

Inststalling over your current OS has risks, but installing it to another partition does not. If it fails, you can just boot into your old OS fine. The boot loader is separate from the OS.
January 20, 2009 10:13:12 PM

I installed Windows 7 onto my second raid set-up. I have 4 250 GB hard drives set up so that I have two 500 GB raid 0. I then partitioned these to 128GB for operation system and remainder for storage. Typically I backup to the second raid, but in order to test Windows 7, I reformated my second area of 128 GB on my second raid. So, you were asking if you could install it onto a second disk, partitioned for Windows 7 and the rest Storage. The answer is that it does just fine installing.
a b $ Windows 7
January 20, 2009 11:03:44 PM

So looks like you can install it on eSATA. Btw, any one tried it on a SSD yet?

I have tried AVG also and it passed.

Any one else run in to the HDD issue? It's quite interesting as check disk came up clean. I even ran it via Win 7 and no problems reported.
January 21, 2009 12:00:45 AM

myriad46 said:

Curnel_d:Concerning antivirus...if you go to the Mircrosoft provided page, linked to the warning about having no virus protection, it lists AVG, Kaspersky and Norton, but when you go to Norton, it's also a beta of 360 just for Win7, which seems to work great. It's only a 15 day trial, which is such a joke. Why would I buy a product soley designed for a beta OS? Money grubbers!!!!


I wouldnt use 360 if I had to. The norton product line is a joke all on it's own. I use Symantec Endpoint Protection or the older standalone Symantec Antivirus, both designed for servers/corprate structures in mind.

a b $ Windows 7
January 21, 2009 11:42:54 AM

jonpaul37 said:
Ps. Any beta drivers that i could not find, i just replaced with the Vista 64 drivers and the device worked properly... can we say Vista SP2???



This is intended - MSFT did not change the driver model nor any of the API's for this exact reason. There is/was enough complaints about that with Vista. Pretty sure Redmond don't want to deal with that for another 3 years.

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WRT 50's comments on ATI's Win 7 Drivers: Agreed!

I don't know what happened at ATI... Did they lay off "The Guy Who Knows"?? But their most recent drivers all seem to have issues. Moreso if you're running a Crossfire or x4 setup. In my case, on a single 4780x2 the Win 7 one runs fast, but randomly hard locks the computer when gaming and I have to do a hard reset to get the system back. So no .dmp file to analyze, which is annoying. I was contemplating removing it, but heard that 9.1 should be out soon so I'll just do that when it becomes available. Also debating a driver only setup, rather than installing Catalyst.

It would be a different matter had I upgraded Vista and was using 7 as my main. Not quite that dumb... sometimes, anyways. ;) 

As I did a clean install for the current iteration, I am also considering a reformat, then imaging my Vista 64 installation over to the new HDD and from there doing the upgrade to 7. Give it the Max opportunity to screw up! :lol:  <laugh>
a b $ Windows 7
January 21, 2009 11:00:55 PM

Oh, btw Win 7 isn't affected by the Conficker worm. lol, something went right here.
Quote:
I'm running Windows 7 beta...am I safe? According to the Microsoft support document that details the October patch, yes you are.

Microsoft offered the fix as a security patch to users of the Windows 7 "pre-beta," the version it gave developers in late October and early November. It then integrated the patch into Windows 7 before it launched the public beta on Jan. 10.


http://www.pcworld.com/article/158016/article.html?tk=n...
a b $ Windows 7
January 23, 2009 7:02:51 PM

W00t! Finally managed to install Win 7 on those drives. I had to do a low level format with SeaTools. Win 7 no longer gives the message!
a b $ Windows 7
January 24, 2009 8:57:23 PM

Quote:
Also note when your dual booting etc Windows will always modify the first hdd's boot section to 'point' to its drive so its going to be different reguardless if you remove the second driver when your finnished, not to say all is lost or anything.

I know that, hence why I un plugged all the other HDDs. I boot to Win 7 using F12 to select the drive.
January 25, 2009 1:20:44 AM

The term "low level format" is really a misnomer. It's really just a zero write the same as you would get with active@ Kill Disk. At least I think Active@ Kill Disk marks bad sectors.

I used an old 20GB Maxtor that I zero wrote. It had a bad sector and it was marked. No problem installing W7 64. It did appear that W7 beta did a quick format that doesn't mark bad sectors, but I wasn't really paying attention. You know, TV and all that stuff.

I do have a problem installing the driver for my Microtek Scan Master x12 USL. They don't even list Vista as compatible, but they have a Vista inf directory in the install files. I may load W7 32 and see if it will load the drivers.
January 25, 2009 1:25:21 AM

Shadow703793 said:
Quote:
Also note when your dual booting etc Windows will always modify the first hdd's boot section to 'point' to its drive so its going to be different reguardless if you remove the second driver when your finnished, not to say all is lost or anything.

I know that, hence why I un plugged all the other HDDs. I boot to Win 7 using F12 to select the drive.
I agree, I change the boot order in the BIOS. I made the mistake of leaving an XP drive installed a while back when I installed Kubuntu. I know, I was spacing. Anyway, when I removed Kubuntu I also removed grub. Easily fixed with the XP recovery console and the "fixmbr" command, but still a little irritating.
a b $ Windows 7
January 25, 2009 3:34:30 AM

Hmm.... I actually wiped with Kill Disk first.
January 25, 2009 3:54:04 AM

Odd, Kill disk found a bad sector, I think it even called out that it was in the MBR, which I though was wierd. I assumed it marked it. W7 didn't have any problems installing. Maybe W7 did do a regular format instead of quick. I wasn't paying that much attention to time. Something to check on Kill Disk and W7.

At any rate, Seagate calling a zero write a "low level format" is still a misnomer.

Low-Level Formatting
a b $ Windows 7
January 25, 2009 8:19:16 AM

ahhhhh good point there with the F12 Shadow703793

as for Kill Disk (active kill disk) - i use it to wipe all my hdd's and clients hdd's before reinstalls every time - kills any nastys or hiddin things that can cause headaches before installs etc.
January 25, 2009 8:37:23 AM

Yeah, any zero write will do that, but does it mark bad sectors? I'm talking about the free one. I know it sees them, but I'm not sure it marks them.
January 25, 2009 1:16:53 PM

I've used Seagate drives for a few years now (without a single failure) - probably have 8-10 internal and external drives. Both older IDE and SATA.
I use Seagates SeaTools for diagnostics and writing zero's - find it's excellent. I generally write zero's twice to wipe a drive thoroughly.

WD has their Datalifeguard utilities.
a b $ Windows 7
January 25, 2009 2:11:14 PM

So far the only real pain in the ass I have found is that ALL OpenGL games I have tried in full screen result in a screen flashing or blinds effect on my 8800GTX and HD4870. Those games work fine in a window.

There are some minor bugs that have all been reported.

The volume mixer does not go black(refresh issue) on 7. YAY.

There are many little tweaks that make it much easier to use and see what is happening.

The memory footprint only seems in the area of 2-5% smaller so its not a big deal over Vista in that area. I have yet to try it with low memory, so that may change things.

So far, so good.
a b $ Windows 7
January 25, 2009 5:44:55 PM

Btw, if you guys want to test some software on Win 7 x64 just post here along with a link to download.
January 26, 2009 6:17:50 PM

Anyone tried CS4 with Windows 7?
a b $ Windows 7
January 26, 2009 6:49:52 PM

^ I'll probably do it when I find the DVD again.
January 26, 2009 11:09:20 PM

Thanks Shadow ;) 
a b $ Windows 7
January 27, 2009 12:36:30 AM

^ No problem. I should have the results with in the week.
a b $ Windows 7
January 27, 2009 2:55:27 AM

I will add what I have tested at this point in time.

Games, Open GL games seem to need to be run in a window to work right. The flash and give a blind effect on both ATI and Nvidia cards with current drivers.

City Of Heroes/Villains - Works in windowed mode, flashes in full screen. Works(full screen) with the initial driver but is SUPER bright
Half Like 2, ep1 ep2, portal, tf2 - Works
Quake 2 - flashes(full screen)
Quake 1 - :)  Hell yeah
Bioshock - Works
Guild Wars - Works
Quake 4(Window) - Works
Serious Same 2 - Works
Zsnes - Works

Apps

Winamp - Works
Xfire - Works
ATI CCC - Works
Nvidia Control Pannel - Works
Realtek HD Audio - Works
Creative software(That Audigy2zs pack from Daniel-k) - seems to work.
IrfanView - Works
Firefox - Works
AVG free - Works
Virtual CloneDrive - Works(Reboot after install)
Frameworkx Shortcut overlay manager - Works(I can not stand those arrows on shortcuts)
IntelĀ® Matrix Storage Console - Works
VLC - Works
HWmon - Works
CPU-Z - Works
CoreTemp - Works
OpenOffice.org 3.0 - Works
Spybot - Search & Destroy - Works
SpywareBlaster - Works

I have not found anything that does not run. Well 16 bit apps don't work :( 
a b $ Windows 7
January 27, 2009 11:19:42 AM

Quote:
Well 16 bit apps don't work


16 bit support was removed as of Vista, and (as you might expect) it wasn't put back in 7. You can use a VM to get it, tho.
a b $ Windows 7
January 27, 2009 2:58:46 PM

@nuke: Win 7 x64 or x86?

edit:
:lol:  I guess I'm still not the only one running DanielK drives. Creative committed customer service suicide with that thing. DanielK should have been given a job, oh well....

Btw, how is Creative dealing with the economy?
a b $ Windows 7
January 27, 2009 5:34:26 PM

CS4 English:


Fail. Even with compatibility for Vista/XP. I think this is an artificial problem (as Adobe thinks it's not a valid Windows version). It SHOULD be able to install as Win 7 is from Vista code base.

Note: One reason for some incompatibility could be because I am running x64 version.

7300th Post! W00t!
a b $ Windows 7
January 27, 2009 11:40:46 PM

I have a little experience with some apps in Win7 32 bit.
CPU-z works
Heroes of might and magic 3 works
Heroes of MnM 4 works
Firefox 3.0 works.
Thunderbird works.
MS office works.

I have this installed on my laptop, so I haven't tried any newer games yet, I only have an 8200M in that thang. Installation was a breeze.

Some software reports my OS as Win XP SP2, while others report it as vista ultimate 32bit.
going to try elder scrolls 3, bioshock, and a few others.
So far I haven't had any crashes or problems. As far as I can tell, windows is reporting 4 gigs of ram and I believe it can access all 4 gigs.

Win7 experience rating is 3.6 due to lousy graphics score.
a b $ Windows 7
January 28, 2009 1:01:06 AM

^ No. 32bit it self is limited to 3.5GB. Like Vista 32bit it "sees" 4GB RAM, but can't use it.
a b $ Windows 7
January 29, 2009 2:38:01 AM

ah good to know , thanks for the clarification.
January 29, 2009 4:05:41 AM

amdfangirl said:
Anyone tried CS4 with Windows 7?


Go figure ADobe acrobat is incompat with 7 . CS4 ADobe web premium all features work except x64 photoshop ( x86 works fine)
January 29, 2009 5:02:52 AM

Good, I hope Adobe Acrobat Reader becomes incompatible on all OSs. It's bloatware that is much better when replaced with Foxit Reader :) 
January 29, 2009 5:53:19 AM

He must be referring to the full version. Adobe Reader 9 works fine on W7 64.

I've been looking around and it appears that Kill Disk doesn't mark bad sectors, but I haven't tested it yet.
a b $ Windows 7
January 29, 2009 12:30:30 PM

Shadow703793 said:
@nuke: Win 7 x64 or x86?

X64
!