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Anonymous
June 5, 2005 2:35:24 PM

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Firstly this isn't an attempt to troll. I was just wondering if someone could give me a list of
things to make me want a ds instead of a psp. As i really want a ds but i just feel i need a
few more things to persuade me to get one. Thanks for any useful replies in advance

More about : psp

June 5, 2005 2:35:25 PM

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you want reasons?
; the online service for ds to be released in the uk by the end of the
year in the uk is FREE
; You can play games wirelessly with only one cart.
; the battery life is far better than the psp
; the games offer something completely new, with touch, voice control,
and two perspectives on the game at once.
;the ds uses carts that are tiny, they dont snap like discs in ur
pocket and they dont pop out the drive when your walking about. there
are also no load times! psp can take upto 30 seconds to load on ridge
racer for example.
;the games are ten quid cheaper at least (dependant on tite- polarium
is 20)
;the console is almost half the price
;the design is better, its screens are protected, and it goes into
sleep mode when you close them
;yu can drop a ds, think what would happen to a psp!! hardly portable,
you couldnt just sling it in your bag.
; mario kart online, wirelessly, for FREE!!! is that not reason enough?
; innovation is the key to ds games, steer a car with a wheel on the
screen, sew wounds up with the touch, blow characters to move them etc
(the mic senses the pitch of the blowing sound) the possibilities are
endless
; the ds takes gaming down new paths, the psp simply teads on old ones,
and its multimedia functionality is quite appaling.
;the psp movies have to be bought again, you cannot write to blanc
umd's
; the ds plays all gba games too, and the slot can me used to add video
functionality and mp3 playback with the play-yan add-onn soon to be
released and any pac-in peripheral compatible with a ds game (ie the
rumble cart that will come with metroid pinball ds)
; ds speak is going to be released meaning you can speak to friends,
other ds owners over the internet via wifi FOR FREE (once youve bought
the software i think) (voice over IP)
; the ds has the perfect stup for pda features and OS as is supposedly
under wraps at nintendo
; IT PLAYS NINTENDO GAMES- THE BEST zelda, metroid, mario bros (a
brand new one soon)
Anonymous
June 5, 2005 3:03:55 PM

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They both look like nice systems, but at the end of the day, the PSP is
exactly what its name suggests - a portable Playstation. While the DS
will certainly have its share of old Nintendo classics (natch), I think
if you really want something new you should get the DS.

If you just want to be able to take your PS2 games on the road, and you
can live with the battery life, go for a PSP.
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Anonymous
June 5, 2005 3:22:47 PM

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On 05 Jun 2005 10:35:24 GMT, Siraj Kutlusan <none@none.com> wrote:

>Firstly this isn't an attempt to troll. I was just wondering if someone could give me a list of
>things to make me want a ds instead of a psp. As i really want a ds but i just feel i need a
>few more things to persuade me to get one. Thanks for any useful replies in advance


I recently bought a DS and the main reason was the promise of new
different style games. The PSP look's nice and it seems to be more
popular in the local stores I've been too, but alot of the added
functionality (play mp3's and movies out of the box) sound's good in
theory but the PSP is way too bulky to use an mp3 player and to be
honest Im pretty rough on my portable music players (I've gone thru 3
discmen and 1 flash mp3 player in the last 5 years) so I dont see
myself carrying around a 250 dollar videogame for music. Playing
movies is pretty cool, but Im not gonna buy a movie twice, and if I am
gonna buy a movie Id prob opt for the DVD since I could watch it with
other people on a TV. If there were a way to burn UMD's I think the
video playing feature would be alot more useful.

The games so far for the DS are pretty unique, there is no getting
around the fact the DS has 2 screens and a stylus which makes it
possible to do quite a bit that the PSP with it's D-pad will never do.

Dont get me wrong, there are clear advantages to the PSP. I believe
in the US it will eventually overtake the DS in popularirty (unless
Nintendo gets a mainstream hit on the DS which IMO is unlikely), so
there will be more (though prob not better) games for the PSP most
likely in the long run. The screen is bigger and the graphics
capability is better. Also right out of the box with the right bios
you can play homebrew and emulated games on the PSP you download off
the net.

The ability to play GBA advance games doesnt seem like much, but there
are some great games for the older system and they are all avail to
you. Yesterday I picked up a retro compilation (Namco's greatest
hits) for 7 bucks off ebay for example.

Finally, price must be an issue (or else you would buy them both) for
the price of a PSP with no game: I picked up a DS, Super MArio 64,
Feel the Magic, Wario ware, Yoshi Touch n Go, 2 screen protectors, a
car adapter, case and one game boy advance cartridge. That's alot of
bang for the buck.
Anonymous
June 5, 2005 6:41:03 PM

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On 05 Jun 2005 10:35:24 GMT, Siraj Kutlusan <none@none.com> wrote:

>Firstly this isn't an attempt to troll. I was just wondering if someone could give me a list of
>things to make me want a ds instead of a psp. As i really want a ds but i just feel i need a
>few more things to persuade me to get one. Thanks for any useful replies in advance

#1: DS is about $100 cheaper than PSP so you can buy 3 or 4 more DS or
GBA games to go with your new DS.

#2: 100's of GBA games can be used on DS. PSP can't use any other
format except the propriety mini disc.

#3: If you want to be able to watch movies on the go, portable DVD
player can be found at Walmart for about $100 and the one I have can
also play burned DVDs and VCDs. PSP can play home made video but only
on MS Duo and when you consider $100 for one big enough for a high
quality feature length movie vs $0.25 for a blank DVD, no contest.

PSP does have some advantages but it's still new while DS had half a
year to establish the market. I'd probably wait on PSP anyway, Sony
has a history of buggy consoles in first release. Remember the PSX
that quit working after a while due to laser alignment issue (worn
rail to be exact) or were prone to overheating? PS2 weren't immune to
cursed short life either.
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Anonymous
June 5, 2005 8:55:08 PM

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On Sun, 5 Jun 2005 Siraj Kutlusan <none@none.com> wrote:
> Firstly this isn't an attempt to troll. I was just wondering if someone could give me a list of
> things to make me want a ds instead of a psp. As i really want a ds but i just feel i need a
> few more things to persuade me to get one. Thanks for any useful replies in advance

imho, the main pro for getting a DS over a PSP is the battery life and
innovative games.

The pro for getting a PSP over a DS is that the screen is bigger
(but this could also be a con in terms of screen vulnerability)

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"I hear ma train a comin'
.... hear freedom comin"
June 6, 2005 11:28:48 PM

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On 05 Jun 2005 10:35:24 GMT, Siraj Kutlusan <none@none.com> wrote:

>Firstly this isn't an attempt to troll. I was just wondering if someone could give me a list of
>things to make me want a ds instead of a psp. As i really want a ds but i just feel i need a
>few more things to persuade me to get one. Thanks for any useful replies in advance

I have just bought a PSP- I have lready have a DS.
I agree with the valid points that most people have made

DS:
Rugged
Good battery life
"Different" games


PSP:
Sexy hardware
Massive screen
Great graphics
Can do other stuff apart from games
But...
Quite bulky
Seems very fragile
Battery life approx 4 hours


Although both are basically handheld video games systems, they have
approached the concept from different angles.
DS: Take a Game Boy and make it bigger and better- add things to it
PSP: Take (roughly) a PS2 and make it smaller, take a few things off
it.

What I am trying to sya is that both are good, both are different and
I don't think you can equally compare them. Would you compare a PDA
with a sub-note book? Which is better? Depends on what you want to
do......

Regards,
Ian
Anonymous
June 7, 2005 12:31:23 AM

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In article <egh6a1hvm8emmoldeh031ip3sspouiregd@4ax.com>,
Impmon <impmon@digi.mon> wrote:

> On 05 Jun 2005 10:35:24 GMT, Siraj Kutlusan <none@none.com> wrote:
>
> >Firstly this isn't an attempt to troll. I was just wondering if someone
> >could give me a list of
> >things to make me want a ds instead of a psp. As i really want a ds but i
> >just feel i need a
> >few more things to persuade me to get one. Thanks for any useful replies in
> >advance
>
> #1: DS is about $100 cheaper than PSP so you can buy 3 or 4 more DS or
> GBA games to go with your new DS.

You get a handheld with small screens and so-so graphics, and there
aren't many good games out for it. The same can be said about the games
for PSP, but it's been out for a shorter time.

> #2: 100's of GBA games can be used on DS. PSP can't use any other
> format except the propriety mini disc.

That doesn't really hold up. PSP a new handheld with no previous Sony
handhelds. I can play the new Zelda and Advance Wars 2 on my GBA SP,
and there are no real killer apps on the DS right now (unless you like
the clunky controls of SM64 DS). I personally can't stand the stylus.
It's awkward and hurts my hand after a while (I tested them in the
Nintendo World Store). I can't imagine playing a full game, like
Metroid, with the stylus.

> #3: If you want to be able to watch movies on the go, portable DVD
> player can be found at Walmart for about $100 and the one I have can
> also play burned DVDs and VCDs. PSP can play home made video but only
> on MS Duo and when you consider $100 for one big enough for a high
> quality feature length movie vs $0.25 for a blank DVD, no contest.

That would be a lot of stuff to carry around a portable DVD player,
DVDs, a handheld and games on the plane or bus. You can fit a movie,
plus some MP3s and photos with the remaining space on a 1GB MS card.

> PSP does have some advantages but it's still new while DS had half a
> year to establish the market. I'd probably wait on PSP anyway, Sony
> has a history of buggy consoles in first release. Remember the PSX
> that quit working after a while due to laser alignment issue (worn
> rail to be exact) or were prone to overheating? PS2 weren't immune to
> cursed short life either.

My PSP works fine.
Anonymous
June 7, 2005 4:03:30 PM

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Hi,
I have both and what I see is that the DS is more adapted for short games
sessions :

-the loading times are hugely shorter (between 3 and 5 minutes to begin to
ride your pod on WipeOut Pure and 2 minutes to get to your car in Ridge
Racers on the PSP)
-no memory card to buy (my 32 Mb memory stick is almost full with WipeOut
pure gamma pack 1, 2 savegames and 2 jpeg comics)
-the pleisure to touch and interact directly in the game (my PSP lacks a
touchscreen)
- Even with amazing graphics I can't stick as long on a PSP game than on a
short addictive DS games like Wario Touched, Project Rub or Zoo Keeper
-the DS games to be released seems to me more appealing : Meteos,
Nintendogs, Mario Kart DS, Metroid, Animal Crossing, Castlevania Dawn of
sorrow even if I can't wait for GTA PSP, Gran Turismo Mobile or BurnOut
Revenge (cars, cars, cars...)

"Ian" <i_nichols_1_0_1@onetel.com> a écrit dans le message de
news:k559a1l4ulqsm46ltomv8rclu6tp3ou0t0@4ax.com...
> On 05 Jun 2005 10:35:24 GMT, Siraj Kutlusan <none@none.com> wrote:
>
> >Firstly this isn't an attempt to troll. I was just wondering if someone
could give me a list of
> >things to make me want a ds instead of a psp. As i really want a ds but i
just feel i need a
> >few more things to persuade me to get one. Thanks for any useful replies
in advance
>
> I have just bought a PSP- I have lready have a DS.
> I agree with the valid points that most people have made
>
> DS:
> Rugged
> Good battery life
> "Different" games
>
>
> PSP:
> Sexy hardware
> Massive screen
> Great graphics
> Can do other stuff apart from games
> But...
> Quite bulky
> Seems very fragile
> Battery life approx 4 hours
>
>
> Although both are basically handheld video games systems, they have
> approached the concept from different angles.
> DS: Take a Game Boy and make it bigger and better- add things to it
> PSP: Take (roughly) a PS2 and make it smaller, take a few things off
> it.
>
> What I am trying to sya is that both are good, both are different and
> I don't think you can equally compare them. Would you compare a PDA
> with a sub-note book? Which is better? Depends on what you want to
> do......
>
> Regards,
> Ian
Anonymous
June 9, 2005 10:51:07 AM

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Poof <none@none.com> writes:
> I personally can't stand the stylus.
> It's awkward and hurts my hand after a while (I tested them in the
> Nintendo World Store). I can't imagine playing a full game, like
> Metroid, with the stylus.

The PSP has more or less the same problem though -- Sony _really_
screwed up with the placement of the "analogue nub" (it's even worse
than the analogue stick placement on the dualshock).

-Miles
--
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
June 9, 2005 11:37:50 AM

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>The PSP has more or less the same problem though -- Sony _really_
>screwed up with the placement of the "analogue nub" (it's even worse
>than the analogue stick placement on the dualshock).

Agree with this- I bought a PSP last week and I find the nub is too
low down on the console. More importantly, I am worried about breaking
it- like most things on the PSP it seems as if it could be quite
fragile. I only use it when playing Mercury, because that's a very
"gentle" type of game (+ you can ONLY use the nub to control the
mercury blob!)
Anonymous
June 9, 2005 12:22:09 PM

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>>#2: 100's of GBA games can be used on DS. PSP can't use any other
>>format except the propriety mini disc.
>
>
> That doesn't really hold up. PSP a new handheld with no previous Sony
> handhelds. I can play the new Zelda and Advance Wars 2 on my GBA SP,

You can't if you don't have a GBA... The same could be said about the
PS2 when that came out - You could play any PS1 title on it, which was a
big selling point. Additionally, it does hold up - say the DS couldn't
play GBA games, to play them you'd have to take two portable consoles
with you, which is silly. The DS does play GBA games (admittedly it
doesn't support the multiplayer features), so you only need 1 portable
console with you to play 100's of games.

> and there are no real killer apps on the DS right now (unless you like
> the clunky controls of SM64 DS). I personally can't stand the stylus.
> It's awkward and hurts my hand after a while (I tested them in the
> Nintendo World Store). I can't imagine playing a full game, like
> Metroid, with the stylus.
>

The touch screen control takes time to get used to, if you've only
played with it in a shop, then you're not really giving yourself a good
chance to adapt to a new style of gaming (similarly it's taken a long
time for my g/f to adapt to playing with an analog control recently). I
personally think that the touch screen (when used with the thumb pad -
NOT the stylus) is just as good as an analog controller. Metriod plays
really well with it (personally I get a mouse & keyboard feel from the
setup), and Mario also plays fine, but yes, is not quite as smooth as
the N64 version (I find it nearly impossible to do a backflip)

Of course, that's just my personal opinion, you're quite entitled to
your own too
Anonymous
June 10, 2005 12:48:57 AM

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In article <3qofa1tnmrdnjhikf8os9nq0313odtar6u@4ax.com>,
Ian <i_nichols_1_0_1@onetel.com> wrote:

> >The PSP has more or less the same problem though -- Sony _really_
> >screwed up with the placement of the "analogue nub" (it's even worse
> >than the analogue stick placement on the dualshock).
>
> Agree with this- I bought a PSP last week and I find the nub is too
> low down on the console. More importantly, I am worried about breaking
> it- like most things on the PSP it seems as if it could be quite
> fragile. I only use it when playing Mercury, because that's a very
> "gentle" type of game (+ you can ONLY use the nub to control the
> mercury blob!)

I don't think it will break through wear and tear. I was able to snap
it off and snap it back on with no trouble. If it does break, you could
buy a replacement, like the analog stick I've seen in this peripheral
package.

http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=801957

This one is raised, like a Dual Shock stick. I wish they'd sell them
separately; I don't have a car, don't need a car charger. I also have a
problem with the placement of the nub; maybe a stick would work better.
Or maybe a grip accessory that gives you the feel of a Dual Shock
controller, like the ones they have for GBA SPs.
Anonymous
June 10, 2005 2:14:22 AM

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In article <none-C03F1E.16485509062005@news.easynews.com>,
Poof <none@none.com> wrote:

> In article <3qofa1tnmrdnjhikf8os9nq0313odtar6u@4ax.com>,
> Ian <i_nichols_1_0_1@onetel.com> wrote:
>
> > >The PSP has more or less the same problem though -- Sony _really_
> > >screwed up with the placement of the "analogue nub" (it's even worse
> > >than the analogue stick placement on the dualshock).
> >
> > Agree with this- I bought a PSP last week and I find the nub is too
> > low down on the console. More importantly, I am worried about breaking
> > it- like most things on the PSP it seems as if it could be quite
> > fragile. I only use it when playing Mercury, because that's a very
> > "gentle" type of game (+ you can ONLY use the nub to control the
> > mercury blob!)
>
> I don't think it will break through wear and tear. I was able to snap
> it off and snap it back on with no trouble. If it does break, you could
> buy a replacement, like the analog stick I've seen in this peripheral
> package.
>
> http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=801957
>
> This one is raised, like a Dual Shock stick. I wish they'd sell them
> separately; I don't have a car, don't need a car charger. I also have a
> problem with the placement of the nub; maybe a stick would work better.
> Or maybe a grip accessory that gives you the feel of a Dual Shock
> controller, like the ones they have for GBA SPs.

Found a grip, at least:

http://shop.brando.com.hk/psprechargeablegrip.php
!