i like the features of the ALL IN WONDER RADEON 8500DV and am wondering if there is a compairable 4 cheaper.
and how is the gaming 3d on such cards

The ATI AIW 7500 is great for the AIW features without the 8500 price. It's decient with 3D games, but definately not a top tier card. Price I believe is about $150 US.

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Well the R7500 doesn't have as many features. Other than that and that it's clocked lower, it's the same. This card should be fine for some light gaming, but for heavier stuuf, it won't really do.

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no, it's not anywhere near the same, it uses the Radeon graphics chip, not the Radoen 8500 graphics chip. It's like comparing a GF2 to a GF3.

What's the frequency, Kenneth?

I thought he was talking about the features like TV-Tuner and Firewire and stuff. And yeah it doesn't use the R200 core, it's the RV200 or something like that.

My firewall tastes like burning.