Paladin skills question

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The paladin's defensive auras have resist fire, cold, and lightning. Now if
I was to put 10 hard points into each of these...would my resists reflect
that? Is this a passive skill also or do I have to have one of the auras
enabled to benefit from this?

Regards,

Sushi

 

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On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 19:52:28 GMT, "Sushi" <gaijin@hotmail.com> wrote:

>The paladin's defensive auras have resist fire, cold, and lightning. Now if
>I was to put 10 hard points into each of these...would my resists reflect
>that? Is this a passive skill also or do I have to have one of the auras
>enabled to benefit from this?
>
>Regards,
>
>Sushi

Heh, what do you know, a Pally question I can answer ;-) No, they are
not passive, you do need to have them activated. What I've done with
my current Pally is add one point to each (this was *not* the original
plan, which was to ignore them and wait for the level 24 or 30 spell
that adds to all, but playing Ancestral Recall at players 8 made it
necessary) *if* you need them, then wait for the higher level skill
that adds to all. *That* one you may want more than one point in ;-)

ald
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You have to have the aura active to get the resist benefit. However, there
is a "hidden" benefit to putting hard points there: your max resist goes up
one point for every two points you put in. For example, your max lightning
resist is 75% without any items, but if you put 10 points in resist
lightning, your max lightning resist goes up to 80 even when the aura is not
on (passive). This hidden effect only applies to the Paladin, not members
of the party. However, when the aura is active, you AND the members of your
party get +1 to maximum resist for EVERY point you put in...therefore (when
the aura is active) your 75 max resist turns into 85 max resist (capped at
95), along with the increase to your actual resistance brought on by the
aura.

Frankly, for the points it costs, I have never found this to be effective.
Instead, I put just a few points into Salvation, a level 30 skill. A mere 3
points gets you an increase of 75 to ALL resists (except Poison), and this
affects your entire party.

"Sushi" <gaijin@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> The paladin's defensive auras have resist fire, cold, and lightning. Now
if
> I was to put 10 hard points into each of these...would my resists reflect
> that? Is this a passive skill also or do I have to have one of the auras
> enabled to benefit from this?
>
> Regards,
>
> Sushi
>
>

 

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"ald" <103175.3500@compuserve.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 19:52:28 GMT, "Sushi" <gaijin@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>
> >The paladin's defensive auras have resist fire, cold, and
lightning. Now if
> >I was to put 10 hard points into each of these...would my resists
reflect
> >that? Is this a passive skill also or do I have to have one of the
auras
> >enabled to benefit from this?
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Sushi
>
> Heh, what do you know, a Pally question I can answer ;-) No, they
are
> not passive, you do need to have them activated. What I've done with
> my current Pally is add one point to each (this was *not* the
original
> plan, which was to ignore them and wait for the level 24 or 30 spell
> that adds to all, but playing Ancestral Recall at players 8 made it
> necessary) *if* you need them, then wait for the higher level skill
> that adds to all. *That* one you may want more than one point in ;-)

Also, if your main combat skill is Vengeance, then you want to use
separate points in Resist Fire, Resist Cold and Resist Lightning,
rather than Salvation, because they're more cost-effective as
synergies to your Vengeance damage. Although, increasing Vengeance is
more cost-effective still.

Each point in Vengeance is an extra 6% to ALL THREE elemental damages.
So, it costs 5 points to give you 30% extra Fire, 30% extra Cold and
30% extra Lightning damage.

Whereas, if you used Resist Fire, Resist Cold and Resist Lightning,
you would have to put 3 skill points in each, for a total of 9 points,
to get 30% to each of the three elemental damages. That's 4 more skill
points used up, for a comparatively trivial amount less mana being
used per hit (higher skill levels in Vengeance use more mana per hit.)

Now, using Salvation as a synergy is even less cost-effective: it
gives just 2% to each of the three elemental damages of Fire, Cold and
Lightning. So, to get that 30% damage bonus to all three elements
collectively, you'd need to spend a full 15 points in Salvation -
compared to 9 in the single resists (3x3) or 5 in Vengeance itself.

The catch is, you're almost never going to have the Salvation aura on,
if your main skill is Vengeance, because you'll be using Conviction to
lower monsters' elemental resistances to the damage you do. But you
may at some stage want a big beef up to your elemental resists and
consider it more important than doing damage - so you put ONE point in
Salvation, for those occasions, and use items that give bonuses to
that skill, or defensive auras, or all paladin skills, if you want
more than one point of Salvation.

Jonathan.

 

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On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 21:36:31 -0000, "Jonathan Ellis"
<jonathan@franz-liszt.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>The catch is, you're almost never going to have the Salvation aura on,
>if your main skill is Vengeance, because you'll be using Conviction to
>lower monsters' elemental resistances to the damage you do. But you
>may at some stage want a big beef up to your elemental resists and
>consider it more important than doing damage - so you put ONE point in
>Salvation, for those occasions, and use items that give bonuses to
>that skill, or defensive auras, or all paladin skills, if you want
>more than one point of Salvation.
>
>Jonathan

Ah, thanks, I didn't know that about the synergies (I *did* mention
that I don't play much except Bowazons, didn't I? ;-) ). My Pally only
has the one hard point in Salvation, which seems to be used more for
corpse recovery than anything else.

ald
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"ald" <103175.3500@compuserve.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 21:36:31 -0000, "Jonathan Ellis"
> <jonathan@franz-liszt.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >The catch is, you're almost never going to have the Salvation aura
on,
> >if your main skill is Vengeance, because you'll be using Conviction
to
> >lower monsters' elemental resistances to the damage you do. But you
> >may at some stage want a big beef up to your elemental resists and
> >consider it more important than doing damage - so you put ONE point
in
> >Salvation, for those occasions, and use items that give bonuses to
> >that skill, or defensive auras, or all paladin skills, if you want
> >more than one point of Salvation.
> >
> >Jonathan
>
> Ah, thanks, I didn't know that about the synergies (I *did* mention
> that I don't play much except Bowazons, didn't I? ;-) ). My Pally
only
> has the one hard point in Salvation, which seems to be used more for
> corpse recovery than anything else.

Yup, that sounds about right. For an avenger, I tend to go with:

20 Vengeance (plus 1 in each pre-requisite)
20 Conviction (plus 1 in each pre-requisite)
10 Resist Fire
10 Resist Lightning
10 Resist Cold
1 Salvation, for corpse-recovery and emergency resist boosts
1 Redemption (plus 1 in each pre-requisite), as a fast way to recover
mana when fighting large groups of weak monsters
The rest in Holy Shield.

Jonathan.

 

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In article <0_THd.13025$u_1.7143@edtnps91>,
"Sushi" <gaijin@hotmail.com> wrote:

> The paladin's defensive auras have resist fire, cold, and lightning. Now if
> I was to put 10 hard points into each of these...would my resists reflect
> that? Is this a passive skill also or do I have to have one of the auras
> enabled to benefit from this?
>
> Regards,
>
> Sushi

It's mostly a waste. A 4 socket Paladin shield can start with +25%
resists and hold +76% resists worth of perfect diamonds. Save spell
points for high level magic. Get your resists from equipment so you'll
be able to use offensive auras full-time.

 

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"Kevin McMurtrie" <mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
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> In article <0_THd.13025$u_1.7143@edtnps91>,
> "Sushi" <gaijin@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The paladin's defensive auras have resist fire, cold, and
lightning. Now if
> > I was to put 10 hard points into each of these...would my resists
reflect
> > that? Is this a passive skill also or do I have to have one of
the auras
> > enabled to benefit from this?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Sushi
>
> It's mostly a waste. A 4 socket Paladin shield can start with +25%
> resists and hold +76% resists worth of perfect diamonds. Save spell
> points for high level magic. Get your resists from equipment so
you'll
> be able to use offensive auras full-time.

There is ONE exception to this.

If you want to use a paladin whose main skill is Vengeance, you want
10 hard points in each of Resist, Fire, Cold and Lightning, because
they increase your Vengeance damage (and also increase your MAX resist
even while you're not using the aura: although they only increase your
CURRENT resist while you're actually using the aura.) Your main aura
will be Conviction, though.

Jonathan.