After seeing MechWarrior's post concerning computer jobs and such, I thought I might ask a few questions as well. I'm 17 as of 12:00am today, and a junior @ the Louisiana School for the Maths, Sciences, and Arts (aka LSMSA - basically the only sign of intelligent life in Louisiana! j/k! ;] ). I'm planning on taking math courses up to Advanced Calculus (2 course-levels above Calculus B/C at my school) and at least 4 more computer classes (C++ 2 - "Data Structures", C++ 3 - "Numerical Methods", Intro. Java, Intro. Visual Basic). I've taken an intro to C++ this semester and really liked it. My big questions are physics related mostly, as after high school I'm thinking of maybe doing a computer hardware/software type double major or major/minor PhD if I can put up with college that long.
Anyway: next year I'll be able to take physics, and second semester I'd be able to take 2 out of 4 electrical courses. The only drawback is that I'd have to sacrifice either computer courses(Java/VB/C++ 3) or math courses(Multivariable Calc/Differential Equations/Advanced Calc).
SO! the question is: would basic introduction-level electrical-circuts-type courses be better to comp sci. college departments than having insane calculus courses and a wealth of computer course background?
Also 1 more question: Do you guys know of colleges (besides MIT & CalTech) that have a good comp sci. department? Money is not a huge question as the only way I'm going to college is on scholorship/bank loan anyway, and at this point in life I would not mind paying back a large loan for school.
Any advice/tips are appreciated!
~Chris
*Goes off to check out the VapoChill cases for the 1 millionth time*
Holy crap dude! I wish I went to a high school like yours. My question is: Will you be able to get college credit for your courses? If you do get college credit then take as many intro and basic courses as you can. Basically, whatever you would take your first two years in college. If you don't get credit then just take whatever you want. I would suggest taking at least one circuits/EE-like course just to see if you like it.
You already have more specialized courses then anyone knew in high school of met in college. So, I don't think you should worry so much about what colleges want because your classes already exceed their expectations. You will probably have to take most of them over again anyways. Just take a variety of classes so you know exactly what you want to do. Don't do what I did... I am majoring in Mech.E with minor's in math, physics, and CS just because I couldn't make up my mind. It wasn't until spring semester my sophmore year, when I took electro-magnetism, that I decided I didn't want to do the EE/physics dual major program. So now I have about 50 credits that I'm trying to apply to minors and technical electives so that they aren't useless.
As for other good schools... I would suggest you also look into Carnegie Mellon, Georgia Tech, Berkeley, and Virginia Tech. Hope this helps.
From personal experience, I was lucky enough to take Calculus, Physics & Comsci in my high school (3 years ago)...
I'd definitely say take calculus, because that's the only course which was actually university level in my highschool (this was an IB shool in Minnesota). It was extremely useful and allowed me to breeze through my University calculus courses.
As to ComSci & Physics (intro to elec. circuits), if you've had any previous experience with either (I come from europe where we had Physics and ComSci a lot earlier), these were fairly boring... if you can use them for college credit great, but I found that I could learn high-school year worth of ComSci & Physics in less than a month...
So check out the curriculum in your highschool and see which course will teach you the most -- they are all important and you want to be knowledgable in the all -- so the question is which course in your particular school will be able to impart that knowledge the best...
to summarize, the physics course in my high school was near useless, it could be done in a month or just some basic reading on aside -- I'd say take Calculus first(it helps in math, physics AND comsci, Comsci second, Physics third...
but again, depends on a highschool...
Good luck! :-)
You really can’t go wrong with any of your choices. If you are thinking Comp E or EE take Calc. If you are thinking Comp Sci take Calc so you can see why you don’t want to be an EE. What is a good school? I went to a “party” school and had great teachers who were concerned about teaching. Then I went to a “good” school and they were concerned with their own reputation and their own research. Non-English speaking grad students taught classes at the “good” school. In some classes I never met the Professor. Also the “good” school graded on a curve. This means if the high score is 96 and the low score is 92, the 96 is an A and the 92 is an F. It is hard to make friends when you are in such a competitive environment. True the paper you get from a “good” school is worth more but you will really work for it.
Get the math done. It'll make the rest easy. A real physics course will require all that math anyways, so don't screw around with a watered down, lack of math, physics course. Taking an introductory, non rigorous electronics class isn't going to do you any good either since it'll give you an illusion of what circuits aren't. Read a basic book for that and move on. It's far better to take the math first and then take real solid courses afterwards. Maybe it's my lack of faith in our highschools, but if I were you I'd take all these courses at a junior college. If you take them at a highschool it's most likely going to be a waste and you're going to have to retake them all.
What you need are good programming classes, the two semester basic calculus sequence, the 3rd semester multivariable calculus with all the cool 3D modelling, linear algebra, and elementary differential equations. Anything beyond that is not going to do you any good and will be gravy. Advanced calculus is mostly proofs so don't bother with it. Once you've finished the first year of calculus you could take a basic circuits class, but the real deal isn't going to be until you've already had the freshmen e/m physics class and can take a solid electronics course at a 4 year university.
To answer your question though, take the math and the programming. The electronics should come after the math and physics. Otherwise you'll find yourself taking a lot of wasted courses.
opps, did'nt want too pull u in there dhlucke. My profil & screen congig is all [-peep-] up here, will try to things right
i'm sure your answer up there was very eh, academic :-)
It didnt go to waste though. I got a lot out of that. I know that the foundation in electronics I have is good, but its interesting to find out how it wont do me any good in the near future. I think everyone should know some basic electronics. It really does come in handy, whether you want to rewire a lamp, or make an alarm for your door. Or someone elses, hah. I will never tire of April fools.
That was good. I think Im going to start checking the dates on posts now though
Cal Berkely has a awesome Comp Science department. Plus it's a great way to get work during or upon graduating from there. You'll make a ton of contacts while going there. Plus you'll be in the Bay Area, Silicon Valley, and Berkely as a campus and town are about as cool as they get. But if you have a chance at MIT, damn!
even tho iv tryed a computer corse,high school computer class's and so on...
i actually lernt more from doing it myself, and a mate teaching me and sites like this.
so id do a cheap crappy easy corse to get a peice of paper witch will say you know something about computers so you can get a job
after a while get to know your work mates and move through the ranks as from lerning from mates and stuff you'll most likey know more than them people who went to fancy schools to lern about a load of crap.. who needs to know how to open a programe up.. thats what they thought at the computer corse's i went to... also how to type nicely... how to save files to disk! (wow)
<font color=red>im a boring old fart and a drunkin bum. </font color=red>
Hey! dh, we pulled in another star.
We've got a genuine black hole forming in this thread.
Oh! By the way, just realized what you meant by "I need help".
Come come now, you do now we are on the same side do you not.
Someone from the most troubling "incest" thread mentioned "agreing to disagree" and that does seem to be a wise statement.
Also I do enjoy, and yes, look forward to your responses.
Just joking about the forum trembling
Go to school, Go to college, get a degree, no exceptions. The good ol days are over! Or you'll end up like me with 4.5 years of experience with a few certifications and more references than anyone would ask for, and end up being passed up on jobs by some 22 year old with a degree who couldn't troubleshoot his way out of a friggin bathroom stall.
Totally agree. I've been down the no degree road at first and it was hell. Then at 36 or something i went back to college for a "official" degree. Best move of my life. Society is just built up this way, run with the wind, go with the flow, [-peep-] like the pope u know ...
I'm a 27 year old college freshman myself. It's so funky walking around that campus, I've never felt old until I went to my first class. I walked in and a few of them looked at me like I was the instructor. I dont even look 27. The first day when I was at the school payin for my classes some kid walks up and says "Excuse me sir, but where is the bookstore?"
There is this young hot lil 20 year old gal named Kaiya who I went out with once. After speaking with her for a week you wouldn't believe how frustrating it is. I took her out to a movie and a bite to eat, I remember sitting at the bar staring at all those lovely taps. I wanted a beer but the gal is too young to drink. Then I started thinking about how I had to drop her back off at mommy's house after the date was over. I now have a new age limit of 21 before I even consider dating another gal.
There are a few benefits of being a bit older, like uhhh, there aint much. I suppose you do have more experience to draw back on, and it makes classes like Freshman Comp a breeze.
Let this be a lesson, go to school now or you'll be the old man in class! Actually it's not that bad, I have some fun. Girls 22-18 will believe just about anything I tell them. They haven't had enough time to build up thier B.S. detectors quite yet. Plus I love laughin at the younger guys when they try to act so bad. They walk around the campus strutting like peacocks, it's hilarious!
Right you are.
If one young one can benefit from our experiences, then we have done good.
At 36, the week before starting back at college i also had my 2nd child. Man, not an easy experience, all put together i mean.
The smart move is: Get that damn paper then make a family. Do this in the proper order, if at all possible.
Cheerios
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