Should Cannabis be legalised

I don't know if this is an appropriate topic - please fredi feel free to remove this if it infinges any of the terms and conditions or gets out of hand.
This is a genuine question please put your thoughts, opinions and if you have any life experiences down. I have used cannabis for the last four years and cannot see a problem with it.
Where the problem lies is with the dealers. Rip them off or get on their wrong side and you will end up dead.
I feel that a strick method of regulating this and it may be possible to keep the drug in check. Please tell me - when I have a smoke with some friends do I harm anyone. Some people say there is a temptation to try harder stuff afterwards - I have never done so. If we can avoid what has happened to holland then I think there could be a real possibility that Britain could regulate and control cannabis laws while keeping it legal

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I'm not after your help just your opinion. If it is legalised then it will effect the whole society that we live in - surely you have an opinion on this?
If it was legalised round your area how do you think it would effect you and your family - if you have on or your future family.
think about the dealers peddling cannabis now - what will they move into as they can't sell weed anymore as it wouldn't be an underground subject. Why buy from a guy with a gun when you can get it over the counter - what will dealers sell then - whether you smoke or not it will effect the whole society.

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take your time. Its a tough and touchy subject.

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if gov'ts were to legalize muarijuana and prostitution, they would make so much g$dd@#mn money, all other taxes would not be necessary. we live in a society here in us that is a bunch of pu$$y whipped pc uneducated moralistic right wing conservatives out of touch with reality dumb a$$es. the only reason mj is illegal in us is that it makes a better paper product than wood and the logging industry had it banned in the us, back in the 1930's I believe. much like many peoples views on sex and underage drinking, the general public has no clue when it comes to drugs either. education on these issues is all you need, really. we are tought to believe by the godd@#mn religious right and parents groups, etc, that their viewpoints and morals should be implemented and everyone must follow. times are changing, and if you choose not to change with the times, you get swept away. btw what happened in holland?

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Fair enough. But the point is - what is wrong with MJ. like I said it is not addictive, it has never killed anyone. What is worrying is this. The state in holland says that licensed shops may sell a certain amount of MJ through each day. Demand is often higher than the allowed quota. Therefore it is shipped in illegally and sold through the back door as so to speak. A reporter went to holland to find out how the system worked and it is basically exploited. Dealers peddle herion on the streets you will get approched and hassled into a deal. Sweden are completly in the oposite view. If you even look like you've been smoking then you are nicked. Spot checks are carried out, drug related crimes are the lowest in europe and kids hardly ever even contemplate drug use. Maybe its a topic which should be drilled into young children from an early age. Depends how strong our goverment thinks it is. At the moment I don't think our society is capable of the freedom.

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Ok i was going to post something but this god damned thing is f*cking up left and right and deleting everything I type so screw it.

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all credit to you. It must have taken a lot of effort to stay away from drink, drugs when you were younger with friends all going out on a lash up. I apreciete your point of view and agree as a parent you have to be more wary of the dangers out there. May I ask what would you reaction be if you 17 yr old child admitted to you that he smoked cannabis. Just curious.

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still thinking on it. I do believe that your friends influence your decisions though. I don't drink, smoke, do drugs, have sex or anything like that. I'm not saying that I haven't tried any of them before. It's just that none of my friends do it and I don't feel like spending money on it. I don't drink at all because it's a waste of money in my opinion and the only time I smoke is cigars at a bachelor party of such. never done any narcotics before though. I don't know. What I'm trying to say is it's up to everybody to make their own decisions. Another thing that bothers me is that I never really do anything. My friends are in college now and I'm working. My g/f just went to college. I never go to parties. Not that I wouldn't like to I just don't go. I don't really know why. I'm a boring person.

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You're just making it worse. You should talk to your kids and learn from them instead of doing this Nazi bulls!t. You are going to drive her away. I can't believe you would actually infringe on her privacy. I know you are worried about her safety but think what would happen if and when she catches you. If you don't ever want to talk to her after she turns 18 just keep this up and you'll do a fine job.

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I'm 20 and I provide for myself and my parents you stupid f*ck. You are such a f*ckin NAZI. I can't believe you are doing this. Do you think she will wait till she is financialy stable to move out? Wrong she'll just shack up with the person you hate most and move out just in spite of you stupid ass ways. I agree that you have to set strict rules but you shouldn't invade her privacy. I'm not saying to get high. I never said that. I don't smoke, drink or do drugs. And it's not really because of my parents. It's because of my friends. If you encourage her to do the right thing instead of forcing her then it will work out better. You should definately punish her when she does wrong. Maybe you have already screwed up. You should build a loving bond instead of a f*cking barrier. I hate your attitude towards this. This is the reason a lot of kids run away from home.

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I'm never going to invade my childs privacy. I think that is morally and ethically wrong.

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Yes, I can see how well you conduct yourself. You are on the right road, that is evident.

Take a few minutes to re-read the posts. Then, after you get control over yourself, you will see that all the posts are theoretical. These are the steps I would take if my kids were into drugs. They are not (not that I have to explain myself to you).

You provide for your parents and yourself? I highly doubt it. You may provide for yourself, while sponging off of your parents. It is evident that your parents (and friends) have not taught you manners or how to conduct yourself.

By the way, don't bother to respond.

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Well, as I do agree with doing just about whatever to keep your children safe, I do not agree on invading their privacy. Because in the long run that will just make things worse between you and your children. I am 18 years old and I have no kids, however I raised my neice and nephew for a couple years, my neice is 11 now and my nephew is 3. When I was raising my neice I taught her (when she was about 8 or 9) about the dangers of drugs and sex. She understands the consequences of what may happen, and I told her that it would make everyone very disappointed if she were to do drugs, but we would still love her. Now, whenever she feels peer pressure she can talk to me, and she has talked to me about problems at home, school, and with friends. She has been offered drugs and when that happened she called me on the phone and we had a long talk about it.
Anyway, invading their privacy is not the way to go. I mean if it has already gotten that bad then something was not taught right in the beginning, like respect and dangers and consequences. I'm not telling anyone how to raise their kids, but regardless, it is not fair to anyone if you have to monitor their phone calls, and internet activities. Well, maybe internet activities, but not phone calls. If you think she is doing drugs and having sex, or if she is on the wrong path then sit down and have a "grown up" conversation with her. If that doesn't help there are places you and you children can go to discuss the dangers of these things. Well, I'm sure this is getting pretty long and boring, but that's my opinion.

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I have come to the conclusion, as I make my way through your zillion bullshit posts, that you are an imbicile. Hopefully there is an apology soon...

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I'm just saying that's what most parents are afraid their kids are doing. I wasn't comparing them.

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right on. abc had a report on "Downtown" about the drup problem in usa and took an in depth look at holland. cannabis is not legal, but decriminilized, and prostitution is legal. take the myth and mystery out of maurijana use and you will see that people are making a big deal out of nothing. i personally don't smoke, it has weird effects on me, puts me to sleep. on this program they had some G#dd!@#M stupid F*cking moronic red neck imbecile who used to be the drup czar or something. He was so out of touch with reality i wonder if he was smoking/taking any of the drugs he was talking about fighting. take morality out of drug use. Your values are not my values, guaranteed. people need to learn to accept what is different from their own morals and deal with it. well the best thing i can say is that those people are part of a dying breed. people too ignorant to realize what is really going on, and what really matters. the only truly important thing is knowledge. ignorance is only bliss until you realize you've been getting screwed all along,.

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As for the whole legalization, I don't know. Mostly I think that in rare medical cases, it should be legalized. However, for non-medical purposes, it shouldn't be.

But then I also think that alcohol isn't cracked down on nearly enough. So arguments of saying pot is less dangerous than alcohol have no meaning to me. In my opinion, damage caused by drunken behavior should result in heavy penalties, fines, and if applicable, jail time. You would have a LOT less drunk drivers if people were actually afraid of being punished for it.

As for 'privacy': The parent is paying the morgage/rent. The parent is paying the property taxes. The parent is paying the phone bill. The parent is paying the internet bill. So the child owns NOTHING. They are BORROWING. And as such, they have NO privacy. Once they start paying their own way, then they start to earn privacy. Until then, the parent has EVERY RIGHT to bug a phone or computer.

Now, that's not to say that a parent should do so. They should, hopefully, be able to hold open conversations with their kids. They should be able to simply ask their child what they are doing and get an honest answer.

However, in the cases where they aren't getting honesty and the child isn't paying their way, if the parent wants to use other means of finding the truth, it's not only their right to, but their obligation to, as they are responsible for their child's actions.

To me, age has nothing to do with if a person is a child or an adult. It has to do with maturity. And if they are mature enough to contribute to the bills and payments that provide their lifestyle, then they are mature enough to be considered an adult and have the right of privacy.

Those are my views, and I'm sticking to them.

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No, owing someone a debt does not give them the right to invade your privacy. However, if you bought a house and everything in it and paid the bills, and then let a friend move in, you'd have the right to invade that friend's privacy because it's your house that you're paying for.

It's all a matter of ownership, because with ownership comes responsability.

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what is really sad about all of this is lack of respect that many youths have towards figures of authority and their parents. every kid is going to rebel so for parents to get mad when they do is ludacris(?). respect is a two way street, parents need to respect their kids rights and feelings, but at the same time kids must respect their parents wishes, until they live on their own. if you talk to your kids and educate them fully on the issues and instill in them a set of values and morals then when the time comes you should be able to feel confident that your child will make the best decision poss at the time. The majority of teens for the most part are going to drink, smoke (bud &cig) and engage in sex at some point. knowledge is power, plain and simple. if you are a tyrant towards your kids, don't be surprised when you find out they are drug addicted sexual active deviants. if and when i ever have kids, my kids will know about sex drugs and alchahol first and foremost from me. they will be fully informed on each subject by the time a situation arises they will make a good decision, hopefully. enough for now

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Interesting thread...lot´s of reading.
Will take a while to read thru all of it.

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Wow, all this from a lad who had to ask me the question "What is L.C.C. and why pick me out" <A HREF="http://forumz.tomshardware.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=faq¬found=1&code=1" target="_new">link </A>. I have to agree with you most of the way. But you should think seriously about your statement about how it never leads to harder drugs. It quite simply does. I myself started smoking at the age of 14 got away with it for 7 years then found myself smoking cigarettes. I’m serious about this. Things have cost me a fortune over the years. Also read in last weeks New Scientist about a study done in the states that strongly suggests long term memory problems. Short term problems are already well known. For instance have you ever played the game where 5or 6 of your friends all smoke some good quality skunk, then one leaves the room and everyone else has to guess who it was.

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