GOD created earth.
GOD is not of this earth.
GOD is an extraterrestrial.
GOD has an army of angels.
Yes, all aliens.
They span the universe and bring light and life.
How and wy ?
We will know all this, perhaps very soon...
Yes, i beleive... An EVENT will occur...
An EVENT of BIBLICAL proportions...
Step back a minute.
Think of the dimension of the known universe.
Scientists now say: TIME and SPACE do NOT exist outside the
universe, it is being created at this very moment by the expantion of MATTER.
Let us humble ourselves a little more.
What are transistors and circuit boards compared to that.
So, please, look up to the sky and wish :
*******GOOD WILL TO ALL LIVINGBEINGS*******
U have been drinking eletric-koolaid.
NOS and a <font color=red> Ferrari </font color=red> can be fun!
oooookaaayyyy
*reaches over, attaches MCX-462 to your cranium and turns it on to full*
there... no more brain overheats
Excuse me for a moment. I need to drive my ergonomic wheely chair over a sheet of bubble wrap!
I am STRAIT, as a beam of light...
Close enough to the edge, will not take a single step more..
"The truth will set you free", but if not handled properly it may burn, i know. Have said enough on this.
*******WISH GOOD WILL TO ALL LIVINGBEINGS*******
Light isn't necessarily straight.
NOS and a <font color=red> Ferrari </font color=red> can be fun!
straight as light...
does that mean u occilate from side to side thousands of times per second....
or according to quantium theory
you are both a paricle and a wave at the same time?
sounds damn confused to me.
here, let me attach a second MCX-462!
Excuse me for a moment. I need to drive my ergonomic wheely chair over a sheet of bubble wrap!
Actually, no i can't move that fast !
But i am strait, and i know my original post is heavy stuff
, but it's ok, there are others who will take the subjet seriously.
Like i said sorry to have spilled my guts out at you all !
Still:
*******LOVE ALL LIVING CREATURES*********
Danny
awwww *snuggles*
me sorry
hehe
Excuse me for a moment. I need to drive my ergonomic wheely chair over a sheet of bubble wrap!
Sorry, all
Forgot main rule of forum: no politics, no religion
Won`t happen again
Danny
But still:
******* WISH GOOD WILL TO ALL LIVINGBEINGS ********
Deep.
Don´t trust anything that bleeds for 5 days without dying.
Yea, like, deepend! watch out you're going to fall in !
Must try and be less dramatic,
Was going to add something but will let it be !
Danny
Getting to tired to think of something smart for here !
That would suck.... wait you did say falling in depends right....
<b>Bees are on the what now?</b>
Not easy starting up a new religious mouvement.
Please direct me to the wholesaler of "electric koolaid".
Danny
Look up, what's that in the sky, is it a plane, is it a bird, ah hell no, it's just another goverment coverup !
Who told you!!! um... I mean.. I don't know what you are talking about... NO you did not just see a <b><font color=green>lizard </b></font color=green> run by here with a jug of it... it was ... milk ... yeah.. that's it... it's only milk....
<b>Bees are on the what now?</b>
Hmmmmmmmm....
Note to self
Mind control through the use of a hallucinogen may allow more substantial hooter groping.
2nd note
Leave video camera at home.
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what was going on in here?
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ok
2 to 1 for u
let's call it quits, u win
for now
hi hi
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I for one am someone who can take this subject seriously!
Being an atheist probable makes me more incline to believe in aliens and stuff. Not that I do, I’m undecided on the whole alien thing right now, but I do believe that if an alien race did exist and had so for millions of years they would no doubt possess god like powers.
An interesting book to read is “Mankind child of the stars”. The authors (Max H. Flint, Otto O. Binder, Max H. Flindt, Erich Von Daniken) talk about how man was genetically engineered and gives lost of reasons supporting their point. A very cool book, truly radical thinking when it was written. I’m sure some of the facts could be proven wrong with all the new knowledge we have in biology and genealogy but I still recommend this book to anyone who in interested in this subject, it’s really gets you thinking.
I found a link checking to see if I had the title correct.
<A HREF="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1886940061/qid=1013056927/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/002-7905504-7188813" target="_new">http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1886940061/qid=1013056927/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/002-7905504-7188813</A>
Thx & Cya
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what if the aliens that we know of are humans that have evolved throughout the coming centuries? and time travel is indeed possible? i read an article a ways back stating that after 3-4 generations on mars, average human height will exceed 9-10ft.
Dorks = people that use their system specs for sigs.
That would suck for commuters....
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Yep. Good bye small cars.
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Thanks for the link there lowlypawn. No i had never seen that book. Damn, that part about starmen and angels, ouf!
`"Chariots of the Gods i had read, oh so so long ago it seems, well actually, it was when the book first came out.
Subjet matter about UFOs and extraterrestrials has become quit sophisticated since Von Danikens first books. Presently i'm onto the path that has as premise that they are real and that most goverments know about them.
This book in particular: "Extraterrestres, secret d'état, L'AFFAIRE ROSWELL", by Commandant Jean-Gabriel Greslé, éditions : J'ai lu, 1997, 281p.
Is so well documented, it's scary.
The US has passed a "declassification bill or act" or whatever you want to call it, regarding highly classified documents dating back over 25 years or more. The jist of this bill is that the document in order to be accepted for declassification has to be 25 years old or so. Don't need to mention that some documents will not fall under the jurisdiction of this bill, of course...
Well guess when the Rosswell incident occured. yep it has been getting in the open for some time now.
Lot's of photocopies in this book of secret docs that have been declassified. Not only of Rosswell and not only of 1947. Dozens and dozens of very interesting documents from the USAF.
I may do a short resume and post it one day.
The conclusion of the book?
Well, since so much info on the subject had been classified and now is being declassified, his book only gives stronger evidence, by meticulous documentation, that the "coverup theory" of UFO contact is quite real.
Thanks for having an open mind, it's a difficult stand to take.
Danny
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You're not as "deep" or original as you think. There's been tons written on this stuff all the way down to interpretating hyroglyphs to back theories- fact is- those interpreting the glyphs didn't know much about them. As for your original post- it sounds like something straight off the front page of the weekly world news you know the one with the headlines like "Ventrilliquist in coma, but his dummy is still talking!" There's no anything to back your statement just a bunch of "oh, I'm more exestintial than you and more open to life" wanna be hippy BS. Roswell has nothing to do with God, and aliens have nothing to do with universal creation- though I'll admit it is possible that life on this planet could have alien origins. Point is for you to say "something will happen of biblical proportions" is like me saying "tomarrow will be a good day for someone". Things are always happening in the world that dwarf catastrophies and wars in the bible. It's such a general statement- are you sure you don't work for psychic network? It's the type of thing they would say- "Oh something will happen. I see you finding love before you die. etc." Spare me the conspiracy theory unless you have something new. I don't mind a religious debate or whatever, as long as there are facts and a debate to be had, but you just threw that out there- god is an alien and has an angel army... WHAT? Lay off the crack pal. There may very well be aliens and they may be vastly more advanced than us, but the God comment is really reaching at something it seems you know very little about.
My Jesus is whiter than your Jesus.
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You run into hot water each time you claim that a conspiracy theory is the "truth".
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Well, that alien post was my first post in this forum and i had to make a good show. Ok, i over did it a little.
Now as for having read books on the UFO phenomena, well i have and am presently into a new one: "OVNIS: La levée progressive du secret", by Gildas Bourdais, JMG éditions, 2001, 434p.
I'm into the end of a quite long chapter regarding the "famous" film of the autopsy of 2 alien corpses from the Rosswell incident. Myself i haven't even seen this film, but will try and locate it. The author has not given his conclusion as yet, but this is another very well documented book with many references to backup his facts.
I'm tired right now, but here is one fact to consider: "The Roswell Report. Fact versus Fiction in the New Mexico Desert", The Headquarters of the United States Air Force, US Goverment Printing Office, Washington, 1995. Well this report was published to explain the "weather balloon crash" in Rosswell in 1947. Is'nt it a tad strange that a simple weather baloon crash demands a report that has over 1000 pages?
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Is that the Alien autopsy that was on Fox?
Not sure if this link is good or not, but it seems entertaining right now. I'm pretty tired but let me know if this is what you're talking about.
<A HREF="http://www.trudang.com/autopsy/autocont.html" target="_new">http://www.trudang.com/autopsy/autocont.html</A>
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Yep, thanks for finding it for me.
The author afore mentioned, goes into specific detail of parts of this film and reasons for there being specific errors etc. He also did research on the origins of this film and documents all this. No conclusion as yet.
Cheers
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Wow, that is deep. It brings back memorys of when that cult committed suicide together becuase they thought there was a spaceship behind that big meteor from a couple of years ago... I wish I could remember the name of it. YOu all probably know what Im talking about.
Really though, I do believe in there being other life in this universe, or even solar system, but I doubt that they would openly make contact with us. In my eyes, we are still a pretty unintelligent race, as a whole, that couldnt(despite what we think), acknowledge and accept it in a wise way.
Think about it. With Bush running the world right now. With China at his right side. Do you think smart reactions and choices would be made? I for one dont. I think if they are 'up there', they have realized this or something to that effect, or maybe where 1 million years short on an evolution scale that it would be appropriate...
Its hard to know what to believe anymore. There is far to much propiganda in this world, and always has beeen
Sure this is all the same stuff that has been said for years about aliens and God and all, and as long as we are sticking to western logistical theory, your series of events is somewhat sound, as long as we can agree on the assumption of your original premise... but why should we? I might as well post:
God is a turnip
I ate a turnip last night
I went #2 this morning
ergo: this morning I flushed God down the toilet.
all very true, and logically sound, but does it make any sense? no... but, I would Love it if you could show me that God created the Earth, that would be something, and so worth talking about.
Great understanding is broad and unhurried; little understanding is cramped and busy.
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what are the alternatives? (I don't mean that in a "there are no alternatives" sort of way, just as a simple question from a simple mind)
just cos I'm Irish, doesn't mean I can count my ABC's
Ya, i remember that happening. You know we have to keep our head srewed one at all times and look at all these events and phenomena with normal , healthy curiosity. The sky won't fall on us and end the world because we find proof of extraterrestrial visitation. Yes it will however be a turning point in human history.
Jesus walked over water, some say they can do this today, no big deal?
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Well... like Science saying that it's all just natural laws and occurrence (like the Big Bang). There are some Native American creation stories about giants ejaculating to create the world. There’s the Chinese myth of.. Ping.. I think is his name, who in his death, the world was created.. There are many many others.. Heck you could just make one up. Most of them have the same amount of believability as the Christian myth.
Great understanding is broad and unhurried; little understanding is cramped and busy.
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don't you think that lifeforms are a bit too complex to just occur or be created by something destructive?
| Quote : giants ejaculating to create the world |
hmm again doesn't really expain how I've such an intricate system of nerves veins etc.
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don't know of this one, so can't comment
just cos I'm Irish, doesn't mean I can count my ABC's
Please don't start the whole Christian complexity debate. No, we're not to complex to have started from something destructive. It took a very long time to get here, and I'm sure we're not as complex as we'd like to think, though we are for this planet, but the nerves brain whatever debate is no good. It's an often used argument to show a God making us on this planet, but it is not one backed by any facts and it shows an lack of knowlege on how species can change- even in a very short amount of time. It doesn't take many years, just many generations, and we've seen some rapid changes in the insect world with new species arising within the past 40 years due to adaptation to pesticides etc. Life forms, as they are now, are to complex to be created by destrucive forces or whatever, but life didn't start out complex. It wasn't like primordial ooze- human. There were one or two steps along the way.
My Jesus is whiter than your Jesus.
| Quote : don't you think that lifeforms are a bit too complex to just occur or be created by something destructive? |
Holy crap man, for the love of god....
Who said the big bang was destructive????????? Who said life formed in the big bang????? You learn science in church or what?????
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Discussions on the origins of life, the origins of the universe, can get off track if we get too emotionnal. We are seekers of truth here. Not dictators and conquistadors.
Beleiving in an "Almighty God" should not affect any of these types of discussions. Wy? Because is it not so easy to see that there will always be an unknown factor, you know, the one single piece to the whole cosmic puzzel that will ALWAYS stay unawered. That we can, if we wish, may be equated with "The Almighty God".
Science and God are not at war!
This is such a falsehood, and is one of the reasons for such confusion.
Einstein said he beleived in God, and so do I.
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Where are you going with this? I don't think the god/science debate was brought up until you mentioned it. We were just questioning his particular agrument which is flawed. So before anyone debates this let's just not- we all know the points of this argument and where god and science agree and disagree. Fact is- you can't argue faith, only certain points. No one's getting emotional, and Einstein would agree with me.
My Jesus is whiter than your Jesus.
God/science/aliens, are they not related? Of course let's not put it all in the blender and see what comes out.
I'm troubled, but no not emotionnal, about the negative, perhaps close minddedness, some have towards the possibility of the so called "conspiracy theory". The term has a bad ring to it. The "protection theory" would be more appropriate. Goverments, democratic goverments that is, want a stable, successfull functionning economy. What would happend to that stability if the President of the United States addressed the nation to announce that extraterrestrials have been in contact with them (the goverment) and presently still are.
They could be affraid of a destabilizing reaction and unfortunatly they may be right. So it is not necessarely a bad thing that a form of coverup is in place.
This reasonning has been put forth by many authors researching the UFO phenomena. It is quite logical and sound. Yes yes i can see the single problem in all this: the premise is that "extraterrestrials do exist and have bean and still are in contact with humans". Well this is in fact the debate that personnally i find the most interesting at the moment. Is this premise valid or not? The debate is ongoing.
Good will to you.
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God, Science, and Aliens are not related. God is based solely on faith and has nothing to do with any of this.
Your conspiracy theory is just that. Nothing more, nothing less. It's up to you to prove to me otherwise. Just saying that Aliens are in communication with the gov't means nothing.
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Actually, i don't feel like "prouving" anything to anybody. What i do feel like is exchanging links, references, documents or discussing specific accounts of "UFO Encounters" with people that have a healthy sense of curiosity.
Again i thank you for the "alien autopsy" link.
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Like I said earlier. I am a ferm believer of how unfathomably ignorant we all are. Everything from the suppiority trips to just pure and simple ignorance.
Not to be to hard on us though. We have done a lot, and come have a long way. But were still really incredible stupid, and have a REALLY long ways to go.
It seems that it takes us a good ten times of making the same mistake before we release why not to do it.
As a race, and a whole. We are really slow learners in the sceam of things.
It seems frivilous to speculate at things so beyond our grasp. I cant deny its fun, and generally does stur up some unexplainable thoughts sometimes.
Also. Science is great. Its a way of having a small minority proove to whole that something is a certain way. Its also ignorant and rather close minded for the most part. I believe in being logical, and apparently its thought that I approach things in a scientific way when Im serious, but I dont like the fact that the scientific community has so much trouble accepting things that they cant make sense of. Spirituality,. Energys and forces that are so clearly there, but because we dont understand it we immediatly refute the possibility of it being real or plausible,
just a few thoughts
Ya, i hear you. One day long long ago, i came home from highschool and told my dad i was going to start the practice of TM (Transcendental Meditation).Let me tell you he put up such a fuss, like i was telling him i was gay (nothing wrong with that now mind you
) or becoming a monk or something.
Typical humand reaction of the general public's mind. You don't understand something: it has to be wrong.
Does'nt mean we must beleive everything Tom, Dick and Harry say they saw. But we must at least listen to their complet story. We must check out their story to the best of our capabilities. It's not a question of "prouving" them right or wrong. It's a quest for "understanding". The truth is something flexible, it is affected by our understanding of reality. It's for this reason that the urge for understanding is so precious. Our paradigm changes in parallele to the change of our understanding of reality and more precisely to the acceptance of these new realities.
I have the utmost respect for those pure and applied scientists exploring the nature of our reality.
I have equal respect for a researcher trying to arrive at an understanding of the "UFO" phenomena.
Thanks for your previous comments.
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Transcendental Meditation-
Ah so sweet
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All that cold air goes straight to peoples heads. The phrase "eh" is really a nation wide nervous twitch like Bill Murry on SNL when he's that guy who ends sentences in "no".
My Jesus is whiter than your Jesus.
Have you ever seen the moon when it's just absolutely huge and conquers the night sky?
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Yes, i have. And at times like that i might be awe inspired by the beauty of it all. One of my favorite childhood books was one on astronomy by Time Life. The pictures of galaxies and nebula were just too much.
Wy such a question may i ask?
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Ever dance with the Devil by the pale moon light?
My Jesus is whiter than your Jesus.
It's an illusion. You've probably noticed that the moon is nice and normal later when it gets higher in the sky. In reality the moon is the same size the whole time. You can measure the size by looking through a papertowel roll or something similar and see that quite easily. Yet I've seen the moon so large that it dwarfed the mountain it was cresting.
I just thought I'd point out a simple and recognizable example of how easily and how common it is for the human eye and brain to be fooled.
I suppose now is a good time to point out that the beautiful pictures you're seeing of galaxy's are long exposures gathering massive amounts of photons and if you were actually in that beautiful nebula your eyes wouldn't see it in all the beautiful colors. Our nerves just can't hold the response time as long as a camera can so we can't saturate our eyes and gather all the light necessary to see all the pretty colors and such. In addition to that a lot of those pictures are gathering light that spans light years. I wish we could see them the way the pictures show them but we never will. In addition to that a large deal of the pictures we see of planets and moons are falsely colored. They aren't as bright and fantastic in reality, but they're still definitely awe inspiring.
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So right you are.
There is another illusion that of which i am well aware of. When in the countryside, away from the city lights and we stare at the beauty of the stars in the night sky, how many of those stars we cherrish so dearly, actually still exist. You know what i'm referring to.
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The Devil and i don't see eye to eye
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