Dual IK Barbs

[Manchild]

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Ok - I have a concentrate Barb I have been having fun with for a while
now - its great, I love being a complete tank and while I could do with
a little more killing power I can pretty well stand there and take a
good beating while I wear down my opponents.

While doing a Hell Baal run the other day the IK Soul Cage dropped - a
minion dropped it not Baal - and I happened to grab it! Kinda cool to
have picked up the soulcage twice in three months after all I am not a
MF character. I gave it to a friend I spend an enourmous amount of time
playing with and we got to talking about what to do with it -- after
all we tend to try and compliment each other rather than duplicate.

I have Shout, Battle Orders, Concentrate and its syns completely maxed
-- we where wondering if he could use a different set of skills that
would allow us to walk through the game together more easily. After
all my BO will look after him, he needs to make it easier for us to
kill ....

I figured I would throw it out here for the group to ponder - IM has
always been an issue so I'd like to get around that, I do not have D2
with me on this machine or I would be looking myself.

Thoughts?

 

[Guest]

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"ManChild" <starritt@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Ok - I have a concentrate Barb I have been having fun with for a while
> now - its great, I love being a complete tank and while I could do with
> a little more killing power I can pretty well stand there and take a
> good beating while I wear down my opponents.
>
> While doing a Hell Baal run the other day the IK Soul Cage dropped - a
> minion dropped it not Baal - and I happened to grab it! Kinda cool to
> have picked up the soulcage twice in three months after all I am not a
> MF character. I gave it to a friend I spend an enourmous amount of time
> playing with and we got to talking about what to do with it -- after
> all we tend to try and compliment each other rather than duplicate.
>
> I have Shout, Battle Orders, Concentrate and its syns completely maxed
> -- we where wondering if he could use a different set of skills that
> would allow us to walk through the game together more easily. After
> all my BO will look after him, he needs to make it easier for us to
> kill ....
>
> I figured I would throw it out here for the group to ponder - IM has
> always been an issue so I'd like to get around that, I do not have D2
> with me on this machine or I would be looking myself.
>
> Thoughts?
>
I have been wondering wether or not to do a berserk barb i only ever normaly
put 1 point in it to help with IM then with the ik set takes it up to about
8 or 9. the damage bouns in it are huge i am making a frenzy barb at the
moment and i have level 26 frenzy and the 1 point berserk is doing way more
damage bouns so if he had the soport of another tanking barb i think he
would be a massaive kill i would preduct over 10k+ damage out of him. then
without needing BO he would be able to max Berserk, mace mastery, Howl and
Shout for synergies
Just something i was thinking about

 

[Guest]

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custard wrote:
>
> I have been wondering wether or not to do a berserk barb i only ever normaly
> put 1 point in it to help with IM then with the ik set takes it up to about
> 8 or 9. the damage bouns in it are huge i am making a frenzy barb at the
> moment and i have level 26 frenzy and the 1 point berserk is doing way more
> damage bouns so if he had the soport of another tanking barb i think he
> would be a massaive kill i would preduct over 10k+ damage out of him. then
> without needing BO he would be able to max Berserk, mace mastery, Howl and
> Shout for synergies
> Just something i was thinking about
>

I personally would not use IK for a berserker barb. Two reasons:

a) It's too slow. You don't want to get hit (much) when you
attack with berserk.

b) Same reason, you may want a 1H weapon and a shield.

Bing

 

[Jason]

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custard wrote:
> A sheild is not going to make any difference if you have no defence
any way.

Wrong. The %block is still in effect. In fact, this is the *only*
defense that a berserker barb has while in combat.

-Jason

 

[Jason]

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ManChild wrote:
> I have Shout, Battle Orders, Concentrate and its syns completely
maxed
> -- we where wondering if he could use a different set of skills that
> would allow us to walk through the game together more easily.

Have your friend develop battle cry, and war cry. He will stun them
(war cry), and eliminate their defense and reduce their damage (battle
cry), while you up your own defense (shout) and double your life (bo).
Not a bad team, eh?

-Jason

 

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"Bingain" <bingain@doYouYahoo.com> wrote in message
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> custard wrote:
> >
> > I have been wondering wether or not to do a berserk barb i only ever
normaly
> > put 1 point in it to help with IM then with the ik set takes it up to
about
> > 8 or 9. the damage bouns in it are huge i am making a frenzy barb at the
> > moment and i have level 26 frenzy and the 1 point berserk is doing way
more
> > damage bouns so if he had the soport of another tanking barb i think he
> > would be a massaive kill i would preduct over 10k+ damage out of him.
then
> > without needing BO he would be able to max Berserk, mace mastery, Howl
and
> > Shout for synergies
> > Just something i was thinking about
> >
>
> I personally would not use IK for a berserker barb. Two reasons:
>
> a) It's too slow. You don't want to get hit (much) when you
> attack with berserk.
>
> b) Same reason, you may want a 1H weapon and a shield.
>
> Bing

A sheild is not going to make any difference if you have no defence any way.
with 2 Sheals in the maul its not slow i might try it mydelf one day

 

[Guest]

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custard wrote:
>>I personally would not use IK for a berserker barb. Two reasons:
>>
>>a) It's too slow. You don't want to get hit (much) when you
>>attack with berserk.
>>
>>b) Same reason, you may want a 1H weapon and a shield.
>>
>>Bing
>
>
> A sheild is not going to make any difference if you have no defence any way.
> with 2 Sheals in the maul its not slow i might try it mydelf one day
>

Shield may not help if you have very low block%. But if
you have 75% block, you're immune to 75% of physical damage (and
most elemental damages) from monsters no matter what your
defense is. What's more is a shield has the possibility of
giving you some DR/MDR.

Full IK Set gives you 105% IAS with two shaels. That is 13 fps
with berserk. You can add a shael elsewhere for an additional 4%
IAS to get to 12 fps. You can not go beyond 10 fps with an orge
maul. Let's say you compare it with a phase blade, you only
need 42% IAS form the weapon and elsewhere for a 9 fps attack.
Of course, the difficult task here is to balance attack speed
against damage output.

Bing

 

[Guest]

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Jason wrote:
> ManChild wrote:
>
>>I have Shout, Battle Orders, Concentrate and its syns completely

> Have your friend develop battle cry, and war cry. He will stun them
> (war cry), and eliminate their defense and reduce their damage (battle
> cry), while you up your own defense (shout) and double your life (bo).
> Not a bad team, eh?

This is actually a good combo. You can have an offensive barb
and a defensive barb.

The defense guy specializes in shout, BO, FI, WC/BC, Taunt, etc,
whereas the offense guy spends all/most of his points in
attacking skills. He'll be more powerful than an average barb
but weak when his partner's not around. When they team up, it's
like a barb with 150 skill points to spare and a frenzy cat
pressing your mouse buttons.

Bing

 

[Guest]

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~misfit~ wrote:
> Colour me confused. I've seen attack speed expressed as fpa
(Frames per
> Attack) of aps (Attacks per Second).
>
> Never as fps. Do you mean fpa?
> --
> ~misfit~

It should actually be fpa (frames per attack). FPS has been in
use for quite a while, probably inaccurately. I suspect it
comes from Frame per Strafe when people started looking at
attack speed for speedazons a long time ago. Of course beside
the use of FPS to mean frame per second.

I believe there are still some people using FPS to denote attack
speed. Well, at least I'm one ^_^. Maybe I should learn better.

Bing