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Let me first start off by saying thank you for your excellent work on the
patch. My compliant was not directed towards you in anyway. It has to do
with the number of people buying your software and then acting like little
money whores on here with it. Like I had stated before this is a Newsgroup
to help people "For the record in the public forum your patch does help
people very much" and it if they choose to copy and resell a product that
you created in the 1st place they could least have the common courtesy
compensate you for your hard work on the patch. That was my intentions and
towards whom it was directed towards. As far as the patch source goes, I
have not cared enough to even attempt to take a look it. All I know is that
you have created a excellent product and we all wish that you continue to do
so. I just would hate to see you stop your work because of people who thinks
more about making a dollar today than the person who can create a better
product tomorrow.
"Depot - The Source" <depot@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:u6v681lh8k5p9mgtm7tng3kp7n2dq4k3u4@4ax.com...
> Ok let's put an end to the shinanigans.
>
> First off, I wrote the patch therefore I do feel I can sell it for
> whatever I decide to. Sure there are others who are selling it for
> cheaper and I have nothing against that. The reason for the premium is
> because buying it from the source always allows you access to the
> latest updates first since you don't have to wait for someone to get
> it from someone else and so forth.
>
> As for the user agreement. That pretains to the person using
> motorola's software. I write a patch that changes bytes in memory. My
> patch contains no motorola code and I am not altering any of
> motorola's files. I am altering memoryspace that is owned by the
> person who purchased the memory chips. The violation (if any) is of
> the user using the patch. Not the creator. Since I am not defeating
> any copy protection schemes or registration schemes there is no
> violation. I do not use nextel products and don't plan to either lol.
> I write patches because there is a demand for it.
>
> I do not use motorolas program nor use it as I do not even own nextel
> related equipment.
>
> If it were a true thorn in motorolas foot in regards to the patch.
> They could have easily removed the routines that allowed the patch to
> work. and it would not be difficult to do so. Motorola is a business
> of which it's investors expect a return of profits. If this patch had
> caused them to have any problems reaching their projected goals. I'm
> sure they would have made an attempt to stop it. In the eyes of public
> all businesses will always detest people who write any type of
> software patch that changes what their program does. But in a
> financial world. Money talks, and as long as money keeps flowing in
> (whether it be from the true intention of the software, or a patch
> that adds functionality you left out), the dollar is in your pocket.
>
> Enjoy
> Depot
>
>
> On Tue, 10 May 2005 22:12:50 -0400, "Justin" <justinandsteph@rcn.com>
> wrote:
>
>>there you go, free patch with purchase of service...lol
>>"Thomas" <reid99@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>news:2L2dnYnze7tl_RzfRVn-jA@comcast.com...
>>> Well then for the record, since you are selling your service and not the
>>> patch. Then you are giving the patch for free and would not have a
>>> problem
>>> giving people the patch for free if they request it ? Then charging them
>>for
>>> help with it. If that is the case then that is actually innovative way
>>> of
>>> making money.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Justin" <justinandsteph@rcn.com> wrote in message
>>> news:0rSdnSYHov_CqRzfRVn-rw@rcn.net...
>>> > like I said before, I am helping people here. I'm selling my service
>>> > "Thomas" <reid99@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> > news:S9mdnXSdKMuMrhzfRVn-2Q@comcast.com...
>>> >> No disagreeing with you. So for the record you are stating that you
>>> >> are
>>> >> selling a product that you are no longer using. If that is the case I
>>> > cannot
>>> >> blame you, but the thing amazes me are the same people keeps offering
>>to
>>> >> sell the same thing. If that's the case then you are either 1 selling
>>> >> a
>>> > copy
>>> >> of what you bought " If this is the case, are you paying the original
>>> >> creator of the patch his due monies?????? Right, that's my point
>>exactly,
>>> > so
>>> >> tech. it is a crime" or either you bought alot of these patches..
>>> >> But
>>> > back
>>> >> to my original point. This is a newsgroup to help people. If you want
>>to
>>> >> make money, then sell something that belongs to you or you actually
>>took
>>> > the
>>> >> time to actually create, not a copied patch of someone else hard work
>>for
>>> >> your personal financial gain.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> "Justin" <justinandsteph@rcn.com> wrote in message
>>> >> news:ubudnVTcJdwshhzfRVn-qQ@rcn.net...
>>> >> > people resell things all the time. if you sell something at a
>>yardsale
>>> > or
>>> >> > on Ebay and you didn't actually manufacture that item, is it a
>>> >> > crime?
>>> >> > no
>>> >> > it
>>> >> > isn't.
>>> >> > "Thomas" <reid99@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> >> > news:h6-dnfHmtdDwLR3fRVn-2Q@comcast.com...
>>> >> >> I am glad for you that you have helped customers, who you say they
>>> > cannot
>>> >> >> think you enough. Question for you and all the other people
>>> >> >> selling
>>> >> >> the
>>> >> > same
>>> >> >> patch. If you did not write the software patch and is selling the
>>> > patch,
>>> >> > are
>>> >> >> you sending the monies minus a reasonable finding fee to the
>>> >> >> person
>>> > who
>>> >> >> originally took the time to sit down and create the patch in the
>>> >> >> 1st
>>> >> >> place
>>> >> >> ???? If you are not, I may add is stealing from in the 1st when
>>> >> >> you
>>> > sell
>>> >> >> the software he created again and again to other people with
>>> >> >> nothing
>>> >> >> in
>>> >> >> return to him. But hey I guess if you feel justified who am I to
>>> >> >> judge.
>>> >> > Just
>>> >> >> like the BTK serial killer in Washington, He was a public servant,
>>We
>>> >> >> should all just write the Attorney General letters stating that he
>>has
>>> >> >> did
>>> >> >> good deeds in the past and the wrong he has done should be over
>>> >> >> looked.
>>> >> >> The last time I checked this is a Newsgroup that is here to help
>>> > people
>>> >> > in
>>> >> >> need, not screw them. If you want to make money, That's great just
>>> > don't
>>> >> >> screw the person who took the time to create the patch in the
>>> >> >> first
>>> >> >> place.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> "Mcnabb" <jumcnabb5@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> >> >> news:ev-dnRTqYsevdeLfRVn-2A@rcn.net...
>>> >> >> > Thomas wrote:
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> Did you actually write the software??? If you did, I cannot
>>> >> >> >> blame
>>> > you
>>> >> > for
>>> >> >> >> selling it to cover the expense of time, if not then your not
>>> > helping
>>> >> >> >> like a newsgroup should. Your just trying to make a profit off
>>> > someone
>>> >> >> >> else expense. As to the software. Maybe you should read the
>>> >> >> >> Motorola
>>> >> > User
>>> >> >> >> Agreement. I states in there that you cannot alter the program
>>> >> >> >> in
>>> >> >> >> anyway."If you need help finding the Agreement to read it let
>>> >> >> >> me
>>> > know,
>>> >> > I
>>> >> >> >> will be glad to let you know where it is" You and I both know
>>that
>>> >> >> >> with
>>> >> >> >> just the newsgroup log of people selling the crack and
>>> >> >> >> following
>>a
>>> >> >> >> person's IP address that as logged into the Yahoo Server to
>>access
>>> > the
>>> >> >> >> email. Better yet just goto Paypal a person's personal
>>information
>>> > is
>>> >> >> >> alot easier to find. The old saying....where there is smoke
>>> >> >> >> there
>>> >> >> >> is
>>> >> >> >> fire. You and I both sure that you have a altered copy of RSS
>>> >> >> >> on
>>> > your
>>> >> >> >> computer.
>>> >> >> >> But like I said, if you wrote the software, sell it by all
>>means.
>>> > My
>>> >> >> >> complainant is not with you.
>>> >> >> >> "Mcnabb" <jumcnabb5@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> >> >> >> news:NKudnbC0Pq-SQuLfRVn-vw@rcn.net...
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>>Thomas wrote:
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>>>You know I see everyone selling keys. The bad part about it is
>>you
>>> >> >> >>>>actually wrote the software that would be different, but you
>>> > didn't.
>>> >> >> >>>>This is supposed to be a help forum to help people not a
>>> >> >> >>>>place
>>> >> >> >>>>for
>>> >> >> >>>>people to get screwed. Just a quick thought for you to ponder,
>>> > What
>>> >> >> >>>>comes around goes around. I offer my help and services for
>>> >> >> >>>>free
>>> >> > why????
>>> >> >> >>>>I am actually not doing the work they are, just as you didn't
>>> >> >> >>>>actually
>>> >> >> >>>>write the software hack. If any of you have ever taken the
>>> >> >> >>>>time
>>to
>>> >> > read
>>> >> >> >>>>the Agreement that Motorola included with the RSS program I am
>>> >> >> >>>>sure
>>> >> > that
>>> >> >> >>>>you know it is illegal to use software hack. I wonder what
>>> >> >> >>>>type
>>of
>>> >> > field
>>> >> >> >>>>day their attorneys would have with a newsgroup log of you in
>>here
>>> >> >> >>>>selling software hacks to their proprietary software.
>>> >> >> >>>>
>>> >> >> >>>>"IcehouseND" <IcehouseND.1os5xy@nospam.cellphoneforums.net>
>>wrote
>>> > in
>>> >> >> >>>>message news:IcehouseND.1os5xy@nospam.cellphoneforums.net...
>>> >> >> >>>>
>>> >> >> >>>>
>>> >> >> >>>>>Says that that last key you gave is expired!??
>>> >> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >> >>>>>Help?
>>> >> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >> >>>>>thanks.
>>> >> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >> >>>>>--
>>> >> >> >>>>>IcehouseND
>>> >> >>
>>> >>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>-
>>> > -
>>> >> > -
>>> >> >> >>>>>Cell Phone Forums:
http://cellphoneforums.net
>>> >> >> >>>>>View this thread:
http://cellphoneforums.net/t173856.html
>>> >> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >> >>>>
>>> >> >> >>>>
>>> >> >> >>>>
>>> >> >> >>>It's not Motorola software I am selling, there is no copyrite
>>> >> >> >>>on
>>> >> >> >>>the
>>> >> >> >>>software I am selling. Also I'm not a member of the
>>> >> >> >>>Cellphoneforums
>>> >> >> >>>website, this is a Nextel Newsgroup I'm viewing on Netscape and
>>> >> >> >>>Outlook
>>> >> >> >>>express
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> > I've helped alot of people who said they couldn't thank me
>>> >> >> > enough.
>>> >> >> > I
>>> >> >> > do
>>> >> >> > not have an "altered copy" of RSS software on my computer, The
>>> > Carrier
>>> >> >> > program and the patch are 2 sepatate files
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
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