Diablo Clone - First time this season...

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Congratz...


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"Samiel" <samiel@samiel.com> wrote in message
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> I'm about to go to bed Friday night (around 10:00pm CST) and my phone
> rings... turns out it's my RL friend and he has just spawned Diablo
> Clone (Uber Diablo)...
>
> My friend's mains are a LF Javazon and a Summoning Necro, but only his
> LF Javazon was high enough to go into Hell... and couldn't put a dent
> into Diablo Clone...
>
> So, here's my chance to test out my KickSin against Diablo Clone in a
> 2P game. Diablo Clone was spawned in Stony Field.
>
> Long story short, it took about 30 sec. (probably less) for my KickSin
> to kill him in a 2P game. My friend's LF Javazon hardly touched him.
> I used no life potions (Dracul's Grasp helped immensely).
>
> This is the fastest I've ever killed Diablo Clone.
>
> Just thought I'd share... :-p
>
> My friend is now enjoying his new charm...
>
> - Samiel
>

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"chaliban" <chaliban@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Samiel wrote:
>> My friend's mains are a LF Javazon and a Summoning Necro, but only his
>> LF Javazon was high enough to go into Hell... and couldn't put a dent
>> into Diablo Clone...
>>
> I had always heard that Lightning Zons were among the quickest killers
> of the Clone. Was your friend using LF or CS? I don't know from
> experience, it's just what I have heard.
>
> And well done.
>

Most elemental attacks are useless until you use a wand of lower resists.
IIRC he has 95% resistance.
The one time he spawned for me, my sorc couldnt touch him, but after
lowering resists he died in about a minute.
Firewall works well if you can get him stuck behind a corner.

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On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:19:07 GMT, "Vladesch"
<vladeschxxxx@bigxxxxxpond.net.auxxx> wrote:

>"chaliban" <chaliban@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Samiel wrote:
>>> My friend's mains are a LF Javazon and a Summoning Necro, but only his
>>> LF Javazon was high enough to go into Hell... and couldn't put a dent
>>> into Diablo Clone...
>>>
>> I had always heard that Lightning Zons were among the quickest killers
>> of the Clone. Was your friend using LF or CS? I don't know from
>> experience, it's just what I have heard.
>>
>> And well done.
>>
>
>Most elemental attacks are useless until you use a wand of lower resists.
>IIRC he has 95% resistance.
>The one time he spawned for me, my sorc couldnt touch him, but after
>lowering resists he died in about a minute.
>Firewall works well if you can get him stuck behind a corner.
>
According to:

http://www.theamazonbasin.com/d2/f [...] opic=41377

BEGIN QUOTE
A maxed CS javazon, on the other hand .... with excellent gear and
setup for tanking the clone, can take him down in 30 seconds or
less...
(Ceylina has 75% res all, 85% vs lit, 3.6k CS, wand of lower resist,
t-stroke, 24% griffon's eye, and nature's peace... I kill clone with
her all the time, and she averages about 22 - 28 seconds)

Which fairly beats an 11k hammerdin at an average of 30-45 seconds....
(possible to actually get maxed or at least decent resists with 8k
hammers)

uhh... what else .... oh yes, D-Clone's resists!
Phys Resist (50%)
Lightning Resist (95%) <--- Nyah!! Ceylina strips 75% lit res off him
.... drops him to 20%
Cold Resist (95%)
Fire Resist (95%)
Poison Resist (95%)
Magic Resist (50%) <--- THAT is ignored by Magic Hammer, since diablo
is a DEMON class monster

Clone regenerates WELL OVER 100 hp per second ... so Open Wounds,
Crushing Blow, Prevent Monster Heal, and Slow Target all help quite a
bit. If you dont have any of these available, pack in some poison
damage ... a poisoned monster doesnt regen. (slow doesnt stop him from
healing ... just slows him down from killing you in 5 seconds or less
)
END QUOTE

So, I take my earlier post back... a LF Zon could kill Diablo Clone if
she could strip his Lightning Resists...

- Samiel

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"Samiel" <samiel@samiel.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:26:34 +1200, "~misfit~"
> <misfit61nz@yahoot.co.nz> wrote:
>
> >Samiel wrote:
> >
> ><snip>
> >
> >Conga rats Samiel, that sounds like one kick-arse 'sin. :-)
> >
> Thanks!
>
> I think my KickSin runs with about 83% Crushing Blow... not to mention
> the Static Field from Stormlash... definitely helpful in taking down
> Diablo Clone...


My hammerdin was doing almost no damage to CloneD even though each hammer
hits for around 10k damage (He's a MF hammy). I just had to stand there and
tank his attacks while my girlfriend used Blizzard to kick his ass from a
distance ;¬(

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In article <rgu2c19ur4859r7u8aahk49v3tkh83vmqn@4ax.com>,
Samiel <samiel@samiel.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:29:36 GMT, "Trammel" <Me@Server.com> wrote:
>>
>>My hammerdin was doing almost no damage to CloneD even though each hammer
>>hits for around 10k damage (He's a MF hammy). I just had to stand there and
>>tank his attacks while my girlfriend used Blizzard to kick his ass from a
>>distance ;¬(
>
>Did you have something to lower his Cold Resists?

A high-level Cold Mastery would do the trick I presume?

Patrick.

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~misfit~ wrote:
> Trammel wrote:
> > "Samiel" <samiel@samiel.com> wrote in message
> > news:0fl2c1tc7dj7kb4s8ooal55uqu7strt2v6@4ax.com...
> >> On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:26:34 +1200, "~misfit~"
> >> <misfit61nz@yahoot.co.nz> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Samiel wrote:
> > My hammerdin was doing almost no damage to CloneD even though each
> > hammer hits for around 10k damage (He's a MF hammy). I just had to
> > stand there and tank his attacks while my girlfriend used Blizzard to
> > kick his ass from a distance ;¬(
>
> That's really strange as he "only" has 50% magic resist and 95% cold resist:

Blizz Sorcs generally hit for about 4000 damage. And with high level
CM, the resists go down to about -70%. Even at -100%, the damage is
8000. The hammers hit for around 10,000 at 50% MR, so 5000.

I imagine the damage would be "comparable" between the two.

Sounds silly, but were you sure you were hitting him with each hammer?
Like Javazons, I hear that Hammerdins are pretty good Clone Killers.

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"chaliban" <chaliban@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Oh, just a quick thought... the Clone wouldn't have the 50% magic
> resists against the Hammers would he? That means the full 10k would
> have been hitting him. And if we compare that to optimal cold damage of
> 8000 then it doesn't make sense. hmmmm

Yup... each hammer was taking off a tiny slither of Clone-D's life.
I dont understand it either... but my girlfriends blizzard kicked Clone-D's
ass :¬/

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On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:58:34 GMT, "Brian Kastel"
<be-ar-eye-ay-en-kay-ay-ess-tee-ee-ell@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>
>Some have suggested it is the most powerful spell, being the namesake, and
>all...
>
I may have to try this. Even though my FB/FO sorc does quite well,
I've been thinking that a pure Blizz Sorc would do even better against
Meph/Andy/Diablo... of course Shenk/Eldritch might be tough since I
think they are mainly CI.

How do Blizz sorcs. generally fair in Hell?

- Samiel

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"Samiel" wrote...
>
> I may have to try this. Even though my FB/FO sorc does quite well,
> I've been thinking that a pure Blizz Sorc would do even better against
> Meph/Andy/Diablo... of course Shenk/Eldritch might be tough since I
> think they are mainly CI.
>
> How do Blizz sorcs. generally fair in Hell?
>

My last sorceress was a Blizzard sorc. At the time, I didn't know Hell had
so many cold-immunes, and beefing up Blizzard from the beginning meant a
walk in the park through Normal and Nightmare. Blizzard is without a doubt
a very effective killer of large numbers of monsters. It deals awesome
damage, it's total area of effect, and the best part is it kills off-screen.
There are drawbacks to it - little foibles that are no fun. The timer delay
is easy to get used to, and really, since the cold freezes, slows, and
kills, the timer is inconsequential. I'm talking about stationary monsters
standing in just the place where no pelt from the sky will land. No matter
what you do, the dame spell won't hit there. This happens a lot with
Shamans, and the doors in Act 5 are almost impossible. The other drawback
is that it's really hard to kill Duriel with Blizzard.

In Hell, my current sorceress is faring much better. The plusses to skills
are favored for versatility over power (just found a cold skill charm to now
have +10 to that tree), and with the constant, guided use of a NM Act 2 merc
(especially with the Insight Thresher), I can solo with her quite
effectively. I have not yet finished Hell, though. I'm working her through
the Ancients' Way right now. Slowly. Charged Bolt is her primary, but
Blizzard is actually more effective. But the CB is definitely in second
place as impressive. Initially sinking points ONLY into CB resulted in a
killing machine. It's unbelievable how effective that first level spell can
be with maximum points, synergy, and mastery. But that's 60 raw skill
points. And you need Blizzard by the time you get to Nightmare.

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On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:31:59 +1200, "~misfit~"
<misfit61nz@yahoot.co.nz> wrote:
>
>I think it depends on their gear. I haven't built one myself but Shady has
>one with uber gear (Nightwings, Death's Fathom, Snowclash, Mara's, an Anni,
>a couple of cold facets..... I don't know all of it) and she does just fine.
>A lot of the time she just has to stand there and static/blizz/static/blizz
>CIs while the merc goes to work but she can pretty much solo hell. SC.
>
Well, I'm thinking mainly for MF runs... i.e. Pindle/Mephisto/Andariel
(and Baal I guess). I think a Blizz sorc would be okay with those
guys. As for the rest of Hell, I don't feel a need to be able to solo
all of it since there's not a whole lot of point to it. My KickSin
can already solo through Hell, so I can use her to rush the Blizz sorc
I think.

- Samiel