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Squints   10-17-2002 at 10:59:51 PM

I want to get a 3d card for my brother for christmas. He's a first time PC gamer and he's currently only playing GTA3. And he'll probably play games i have like MOHAA. Will the Radeon 9000pro do fine? I found it for $99 at pcclub so I can just pick it up. It should be even less for christmas time right? You think it will run Doom3 at 1024x768? BTW how much are the old geforce 3's? I'm looking for something around $99 that will still run all recent games at 1024 ok.

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malignant   10-18-2002 at 12:27:42 AM
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Yeah it'll run games decent but with settings around medium not max. Its about as fast as the 8500 sometimes slower sometimes faster. A Ti4200 is a lot better in terms of performance, the lowest price ive seen a 4200 is around $115 and thats without tv out or anything else, just a regular ole video card. Oh and yeah the 9000pro will 'run' doom III, probably will look like crap if you want good FPS though since you'll have details on low.

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Skipper007   10-18-2002 at 12:48:14 AM
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What makes people think DOOM 3 will be such a power guzzler? I know it looks incredible, but it likely has had a lot of tuning done to it. Game companies don't generally release games that don't run on the majority of graphics card, and I think the majority of cards currently aren't at the Radeon 9000 Pro level.

BTW is it the 64 or 128MB version?

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AMD_Man   10-18-2002 at 12:50:43 AM
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Actually, it's slower than the R8500 most of the time. It should be able to run all modern games at max settings at 1024*768 with max Aniso. It will certainly be able to play MOH:AA perfectly at max settings with max Aniso (which by the way, looks beautiful). The Ti4200 will definitely be faster, but you can get an R8500 for $85 or so at NewEgg.

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Chuck232   10-18-2002 at 01:57:35 AM
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The R9000 Pro is almost always slower than the R8500, even LE version, I saw overclocked performance, and it still wasn't all that great. The R8500 OEM 64MB at newegg.com is very good, if it's the one that's clocked at 250/275

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Squints   10-18-2002 at 02:55:32 AM
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After i saw a G4 ti 4200 for 120 i was going to get that one because its well worth the price difference. But I just found out my brother wont be home for christmas (he's in the navy):( Oh well!

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Chuck232   10-18-2002 at 03:25:26 AM
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Ahh too bad!

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AMD_Man   10-18-2002 at 03:35:13 AM
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Get the R8500LE at NewEgg for $85 last time I checked (that was a few weeks ago so the prices may have changed).

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AMD_Man   10-18-2002 at 03:35:14 AM
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Get the R8500LE at NewEgg for $85 last time I checked (that was a few weeks ago so the prices may have changed).

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Chuck232   10-18-2002 at 02:21:40 PM
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His brother isn't coming back for Christmas AMD_Man.

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phsstpok   10-18-2002 at 03:37:06 PM
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8500s are being phased out so get them while the getting is good.

To change the subject, any word on the 9500? If it is real then it may be the eventual game card for the masses.

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Chuck232   10-18-2002 at 03:48:55 PM
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Yup there's a R9500 and a R9500 PRO. They've got only 128bit DDR memory and only 4 texute pipelines for the R9500 and 8 for the R9500 Pro. IIRC the R9500 will only have 64MB and the R9500 Pro will have either 64MB or 128MB VRAM. They're both clocked at 275/550. The R9500 is supposed to be ~$180USD and the R9500 Pro is supposed to be $220USD.

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phsstpok   10-18-2002 at 05:58:18 PM
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Yup there's a R9500 and a R9500 PRO. They've got only 128bit DDR memory and only 4 texute pipelines for the R9500 and 8 for the R9500 Pro.


It sounds like the 9500 is similar to the 9700 but with a slower GPU and a much, much slower memory system. Let's see. 9700 Pro with 256-bit DDR at 310 Mhz has a memory bandwidth of 19.84 GB/sec. 275 Mhz DDR, 128-bit would have a 8.8 GB/sec. 57% penalty! Ouch!

Let's hope one of those ATI partners puts some of that nice 2.8 ns memory in one of their 9500 Pro cards.

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