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August 26, 2004 9:54:31 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.messenger (More info?)

Hi,
Regarding Msn Messenger and Microsoft Messenger,
can someone tell me which product is supported most by Microsoft? I guess
this also indicates on future trends and future integration of the products
in Longhorn and other O/S.

Thanks

Sara
Anonymous
August 26, 2004 9:54:32 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.messenger (More info?)

Greetings Sara,

They are both supported, but keep in mind that Windows Messenger is considered "the" client
to access Microsoft's Live Communication Server whereas MSN Messenger is considered "the"
client for the public .NET Messenger network
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2004 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.

"Sara" <sara@minor.com> wrote in message news:unJH3T4iEHA.3612@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
> Regarding Msn Messenger and Microsoft Messenger,
> can someone tell me which product is supported most by Microsoft? I guess
> this also indicates on future trends and future integration of the products
> in Longhorn and other O/S.
>
> Thanks
>
> Sara
>
>
August 27, 2004 3:05:45 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.messenger (More info?)

Thanks Mr. Kay,

Regarding Microsoft Windows Messenger, when I run my client on my PC and
communicate with my friend with her Messenger, where is the server ( I work
in the internet and not in a private enterprise)?

If you got me, please repeat the question regarding MSN Messenger.

Thanks allot.

Sara


"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" <msnewsreplies@jonathankay.com> wrote in message
news:uR9H4F5iEHA.556@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Greetings Sara,
>
> They are both supported, but keep in mind that Windows Messenger is
considered "the" client
> to access Microsoft's Live Communication Server whereas MSN Messenger is
considered "the"
> client for the public .NET Messenger network
> ____________________________________________
> Jonathan Kay
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2004 Jonathan Kay.
> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
>
> "Sara" <sara@minor.com> wrote in message
news:unJH3T4iEHA.3612@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > Hi,
> > Regarding Msn Messenger and Microsoft Messenger,
> > can someone tell me which product is supported most by Microsoft? I
guess
> > this also indicates on future trends and future integration of the
products
> > in Longhorn and other O/S.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Sara
> >
> >
>
>
Anonymous
August 28, 2004 1:44:22 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.messenger (More info?)

"Sara" <sara@minor.com> wrote in message
news:o SlqFUBjEHA.1404@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Thanks Mr. Kay,
>
> Regarding Microsoft Windows Messenger, when I run my client on my PC and
> communicate with my friend with her Messenger, where is the server ( I
> work
> in the internet and not in a private enterprise)?
>
> If you got me, please repeat the question regarding MSN Messenger.
>
> Thanks allot.
>
> Sara
>
>

I found this question interesting because I didn't know the answer.
So I searched for the answer. And I am going to share with you
how to do this because it is very valuable.

www.google.com is a search engine. You can choose web or
groups to begin your search. The web will search your keywords
out on the internet and is what I used to go to Microsoft and find:

"Live Communications Server 2003 provides your business with
enterprise-ready instant messaging (IM), presence awareness, and an
extensible platform that connects people, information, and business
processes-enabling better decisions faster. With a familiar user experience
integrated into Microsoft Office System programs, Live Communications Server
2003 allows people to communicate without the constraints of geography,
office location, or time zone.
Connect People and Information in Real Time
Enable employees to communicate with each other instantly-without leaving
the program in which they are working. Live Communications Server 2003
provides presence awareness within desktop and line-of-business
applications, and uses the familiar Windows Messenger 5.0 client.

. Share presence status so that everyone knows who is online, offline,
busy, away, on the phone, or out to lunch.

. Use audio, video, and data collaboration features to exchange
information and share applications.

. Participate in multiparty IM conversations with up to 32 people at
the same time.


Top of page
Designed for the Enterprise
Easily deploy, manage, and enhance security of your company's business
information and employee IM conversations. Live Communications Server 2003
delivers more secure instant messaging, text logging, archiving, and
encryption, and integrates these features within your existing Microsoft
Windows ServerT 2003 infrastructure and management tools."

SH: So LCS 2003 is a server software that has a trial download that you
"could" download and install on your home computer to play with. Back to
Google:

At the google opening webpage you can choose groups. This category contains
nearly all the Usenet groups and they are archived for searching purposes
for years back. So you do a search for microsoft.public.msn.messenger or a
different search, microsoft.public.windowsxp.messenger and it will bring
back a list of responses generated currently and years back. There is an
option checkbox to search again just within your selected newsgroup of
interest. Then the keywords will be found just in that newsgroup, not where
ever they have been mentioned in other contexts.

This works for all different kinds of questions outside of messenger as
well. For instance you could find out immediately where to change your
default email client inside of Internet Explorer... quickly rather than
waiting for a response to a post you have made to a newsgroup, which might
take a day (or more).

Mr. Kay has stated that Windows Messenger (WM) provides some of the
functionality found in MSN Messenger 6.2 so there isn't any point in
removing it as far as I can see. Besides MSN 6.2 offers greater startup
choices. Automatically starting when Windows starts up or not. Automatically
signing in, or not. Automatically opening in a minimized window or open
window. MSN 6.2 can be opened manually and signed in automatically or not,
minimized or not; various combinations of these options also work. The
add-in deal for Hotmail has been moved from WM (I've read) to MSN 6.2 with
the advent of SP2 for Win XP

So I see WM as more enterprise, 32 connections for video-conferencing, as
opposed to 20 connections I think for MSN 6.2 Messenger. Mr. Kay has
provided instructions to disable WM at startup rather than remove it which
would cripple some of MSN 6.2 functionality. There is a relay server for
webcam, somewhere in Microsoft internet space, if UPnP doesn't work. But
audio requires a direct connection which tunnels from one user's IP address
to another user's IP address without a server specific to this task. You and
the other communicating partner will still need ISPs of course which use
servers, but not related to the LCS 2003.

One reason I answered this was to see if I understood this correctly as I
surmise Jonathon Kay may critique my message. The purpose of MSN 6.2 differs
and I quote from http://messenger.msn.com/ which is about MSN 6.2 not WM

"Manage - keep your life organized
Protect your kids with parental controls. Block spam, catch new email when
it comes in, and set your online status." Learn More

Regards,
Stephen








> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" <msnewsreplies@jonathankay.com> wrote in message
> news:uR9H4F5iEHA.556@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Greetings Sara,
>>
>> They are both supported, but keep in mind that Windows Messenger is
> considered "the" client
>> to access Microsoft's Live Communication Server whereas MSN Messenger is
> considered "the"
>> client for the public .NET Messenger network
>> ____________________________________________
>> Jonathan Kay
>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
>> Associate Expert
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2004 Jonathan Kay.
>> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
>>
>> "Sara" <sara@minor.com> wrote in message
> news:unJH3T4iEHA.3612@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> > Hi,
>> > Regarding Msn Messenger and Microsoft Messenger,
>> > can someone tell me which product is supported most by Microsoft? I
> guess
>> > this also indicates on future trends and future integration of the
> products
>> > in Longhorn and other O/S.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > Sara
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>


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