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D33   11-13-2002 at 03:44:46 AM

this is my 5th post i guess!
and still i couldn't fix my problem,
i have a radeon8500, asus, a7m266,1800+, audigy, winXP
and my computer crashes under games, no explanation given, just crashes...
i have tried:
reinstall drivers, update drivers, [-peep-] remove drivers,
cleaned my registry of eventual driver conflicts with my older geforce2MX drivers....

please i need help

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dhlucke   11-13-2002 at 04:14:03 AM
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You might want to consider a fresh install. Too much to backup?

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halkebul   11-13-2002 at 04:52:43 AM
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My crash problems with a XP1700+\ATI 9000 computer were solved when I reset the BIOS.

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Ghostdog   11-13-2002 at 12:45:12 PM
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Also try taking everything that you don´t need (IE all other expansion-cards) and trying it again. If it still doesn´t work then try updating the BIOS and formating the hard-drive(s), then doing a clean install.

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D33   11-14-2002 at 01:46:30 AM
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i have too much to back up guys, formatting would just kill me..
resetting the bios,
how?
through the bios itself?

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halkebul   11-14-2002 at 03:20:18 AM
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Reseting the bios involves moving a jumper on the motherboard from the 1st two pins it is currently on, lets call them the 1st and 2nd pins, to the 2nd and 3rd pins. Then back to the 1st two pins again. Now your bios is reset. The motherboard's diagram that came with the mobo will better explain which jumper to move.

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D33   11-15-2002 at 03:19:11 AM
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oh i see, but the problem is that the original bios that comes with my board doesn't support athlon XP1800+, i have an asus a7m266, so when i first built my system i had to flash the bios to another version in order for my PC to boot.
and resetting the bios would roll back to the original version non?
i have downloaded a new version of the AMD761 chip bios from asus.com,
i will try flashing it...

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monkeyspank   11-15-2002 at 10:49:20 AM
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no it wont reflash your bios back to the original version. Resetting the bios will just change all the settings in the bios back to default. It might be worth flashing the bios to the newer version anyway. After flashing you have to reset all the settings back to default anyway.


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BarneyL   11-15-2002 at 03:37:26 PM
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I'm having very similar problems with a radion 9700 pro.
I's a brand new system (just updated all the drivers that's it) it came with a tnt2 card which I replaced with the 9700. The system is a P4 2.4 in an MSI 645E motherboard with windows XP.
2D runs fine but any 3D use leads to either the program either quits to the desktop after a short time or on occasion causes a complete lock up (I've been runing 3d mark 2001 SE as the test).
Cutting the clock speeds of the card to the minimum allowed by powerstrip (about a 20% reduction) massively reduces the regularity of the crashes from about after 5-10 seconds to 5 minutes or so. Could this mean either the card is faulty or possibly the power sorce can't take it?

Barney

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dUFF_Man   11-15-2002 at 07:02:30 PM
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Are you overclocking anything in any way? cpu, gpu, mem anything???

Also what is the system temperature and cpu temp? Could be an overheat problem?

Hope it helps:)

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BarneyL   11-15-2002 at 11:55:18 PM
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Everything was at it's default speed when the serious errors occured, some more testing shows that the system is 100% stable with the graphics card at full speed but the fsb underclocked from 133MHz down to it's minimum of 80MHz

Barney

Edited update - Started thinking about this and went into the BIOS manually set the 333MHz memory to run at 266MHz everything works fine, looks like the Radeon card pushed the memory past what it could cope with in a way the TNT card couldn't. Will call the system manufacturer on Monday to get a module which is up to it.
Thanks for the tips it put me on to the right path to find the bug.

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by BarneyL on 11/15/02 06:29 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

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D33   11-16-2002 at 01:03:18 AM
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is it different than simply resetting the settings to default from within the BIOS itself??
i'll try both, and let you guys updated
thanks

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