3DMark 2001SE - Score High Enough?

definitely low, but i really can't help you... sorry.

"There is no dark or light side, only power and those too weak to seek it."

That is a low score for that setup. What RAM do you have?

Sorry..forgot to add that.
I have 256MB DDR PC2700

In the madonion 3dmark graphics card forum you will get 10 replies within two hours. Something to try.

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what's your settings? current resolution? AA?

I'm using GF4 Ti4200 with P4 1.7GHz...I can get about 10200...

I am new to ATI after coming from Nvidia so I dont really know much about AA, AF etc. I think i am in the right place, in advanced properties under OpenGL? If so, AA and AF is disabled, custom settings and both Texture and Mipmap are at High Performance. I am running 1024x768 at 32bit.

Soudns like you're having some driver conflicts. Did you do a fresh install of windows and such after pulling out the nVidia card? A reformat would probably solve your problem.

...And all the King's horses and all the King's men couldn't put my computer back together again...

The Hardrive was new, freshly formated. I am running the driver 7.79 (build 6.13.10.6200C)

3dmark is dx, so you should check the dx settings..

and you have proper new drivers? www.rage3d.com for example (or .net, or .org, don't remember) does have..

btw, anyone can run 3dmark with dx9beta drivers? i can't, it does not find dx8.1  

"take a look around" - limp bizkit

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You need the chipset drivers for your motherboard. Load <A HREF="http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=2" target="_new">the latest VIA 4-in-1 drivers</A> and it will fix you right up.

It's a good idea to uninstall and reinstall the ATI drivers after you do this.

<b>99% is great, unless you are talking about system stability</b>

Did that, still no luck..

Check in your bios that AGP4x is enabled, many people i've seen with low 3dmark scores had their AGP bus running in PCI mode!

Also check in directx settings in your drivers that FSAA and AF are off.

-Col.Kiwi

My BIOS AGP Mode is set to 4x

In 3DMark 2001 click on System Info -> Motherboard Info -> AGP Capabilities.

What does it list for available AGP speeds and which speed is is enabled?

<b>99% is great, unless you are talking about system stability</b>

It says the following:

Revision: 2.0
Rate: 1x, 2x, 4x (4x enabled)
Aperture Size: 128 MB
Sideband Addressing: supported (enabled)
Fast Write: not supported

Strange, your 9700 is scoring as if it was in PCI mode not AGP 4X.

Do you have the auxillary power connector connected to you power supply?



<b>99% is great, unless you are talking about system stability</b>

Did you change the agp aperture size in the bios?

OK - I had some recent trouble with my new Giga-Byte 7VAXP and my new retail 9700 pro - couple things to check:
1. Does this board require you to manually change the dip switch from 100 to 133FSB?
2. How is your stability? You might try to up the AGP voltage from 1.5 to 1.6 or 1.7.
3. Can you change your memory from "Normal" to Ultra?
I am running over 12000 with no overclocking to the CPU or my 9700 pro. Good luck
Billy

Jackster
The future is what yesterday brought you today

Yes, its connected

No, the AGP Aperture Size is 128MB.

Billy,

1. Yes, I have a 2100+ and it was only reading it as a 1500+ before I changed the DIP switch.
2. I will get back to you on the stability side.Havent really used it much to tell (using another computer here)
3. Do you mean the Fast Command option? Mine is set to Ultra.

Thanks

I just got the gf4 ti4200 yesterday...my marks have changed from 8163 to 8814 after I downloaded new drivers...than when I changed the settings in the drivers, I went down to 6632...so I restored them to default...but only got back up to around 8600...so I noticed that my video was sharing IRQ 10 with my usb controllers and I disabled them (not yet knowing how to reassign IRQ's)...this brought me back up to 8728...than I took a chance and increased the aperture to the max of 256 (I only have a 256 ddr chip and I read that aperture should be about half of ram size)...this made a big jump and bought me up to 8972 from 8728...so I went from my original score of 8163 to 8972...there is hope. It seems that many things can affect the 3d results...but with the latest jump I am thinking that maybe I should increase my ram and try to change IRQ settings...I wouldn't worry about the mark...as long as adjustments show that the card is capable....I hope this is the case.

OKay... I suggest following...
(I get around 13000 marks with an XP2000 at full performance agp 4x with my R9700Pro)

have you run Sisoft sandra on your system, how does your system comare to the benchmarked systems... is anything way lower than what you should be getting around ???

what type of HDD do you have, is it a new one, what make/model ??
a slow/old HDD will have an effect on your system performance...

Which version, XP home or pro... SP1 ??

In your advanced display properties, are your sliders for direct3d & opengl all the way to performance or quality???

in 3dmark2001se build330 ??? remove, reinstall & run DEFAULT bench, do not fiddle with anything... what do you get ???

latest bios revision, Via drivers, get catalyst 2.4's oh & do you have a second graphics card in your system ??


no-one shouts louder than someone who is being ignored, or in the case of techies, to be heard over the noise of their PC's ;-)

My HD is a Seagate 7200RPM 40GB. Brand new, formated as a whole partition.
I am running Windows XP Pro with SP1 installed. (Its a retail version btw, i am well aware of the SP1 problem with a certain serial number)
My direct3d & opengl sliders are turned fully to Performance.
I dont understand what you mean by, "in 3dmark2001se build330 ??? remove, reinstall & run DEFAULT bench, do not fiddle with anything... what do you get ???"
I am running the latest BIOS and latest VIA 4in1 driver. Catalyst 2.4's ?
No I do not have a second graphics card. Just the Radeon 9700Pro in a AGP slot.

Thanks

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Are you running any background programs? Shut em off. Did you install and are you running the Giga-Byte easy tune 4? If you got that puppy running it will suck you way down. You oughtta be bustin 10,000.

Jackster
The future is what yesterday brought you today

My best to date was 13068 3dmarks with 3dmark2001se (build 330) it is the latest version & it works properly with the 9700Pro... but that was on W98se... some people say that you get better scores when running this OS compared to XP...
I would agree as I do get a difference... like I get problems with GTA3 under XP, (eg I have had carparks being a mirror until I drive onto them, but hey that could be just the game...)


PS Overclocking my system would get me into the range of 14000 but I dont need that yet...



no-one shouts louder than someone who is being ignored, or in the case of techies, to be heard over the noise of their PC's ;-)

Havent got easytune installed, what dose it do any way?

Maybe it's a stupid suggestion but, do you have Vsync enabled? This will kill your scores as your monitor's refresh rate will be the bottleneck.

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how is vsync disabled?

How can I disable Vsync then .. ?
Thanks

Ups, sorry for to much time to answer, I was out of town.

If I'm not wrong, when you configure the display properties, advance settings, in Directx tab and also in OpenGL tab, there should be an option about refresh rate that says: a)"always synchronize with monitor", b)"never synchronize" and c)"application selects".

Use the "never" option. If not, even if your GPU can achieve 120 FPS, the maximum FPS will be the refresh rate of your monitor (let's say 85Mhz, so 85 FPS). The logic behind is that you could see strange effects if both aren't synchro, so I recomend only disable the Vsync (for instance, means vertical synchronize) for benchmark purposes.

If you are sync and your GPU exceeds always the refresh rate of your monitor, you are cutting a lot in your benchmark, for sure!

Hope this helps!

DIY: read, buy, test, learn, reward yourself!

Thanks for that, though I cant locate the refresh rate where you are telling.

I recently ran a fault program and this message came up: "The video card does not have an interrupt assigned. All modern video cards need an interrupt. Even the older PCI cards works faster if an interrupt is used." What is this and how would I go about fixing this? Could this be something to do with low benchmark scores? I am using the Gigabyte F11 latest BIOS if the problem is located in the BIOS. Any information will be great and Thank You to all that have responded in past posts.

no idea, though i'd be interested in the answer

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check you power supply
check your frekuensi memory and chip [grafik]
check you grafik card in other system pc and test it
if not working you must compliment it to -[distributor your grafik card]

Seems to be all in order.

I have the perfect solution trade my gF4 440Mx for you 9700 and things will be fine   sorry just kiddin

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With my system which is an AXP2200+, KT333 mobo, 768 PC2100 DDR RAM, AIW 9700 Pro I get 12000+ 3DMarks at default benchmark.